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Anyone watching Channel 5's Under Suspicion Kate McCann?

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ilovebrie8 · 21/05/2026 09:14

It was on last night

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marcopront · Yesterday 18:23

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 17:40

They are. One is a very successful athlete.

My apologies
I thought they were two boys.
However that is not the important point of the post.

itsgettingweird · Yesterday 18:29

crossedlines · Yesterday 11:53

Agree - I didn’t know anyone with toddlers in 2007 who left them unattended like that.

You obviously never went on a sunsail or make Warner holiday then?

I use to work kids clubs for these companies and it was pretty standard and a selling point of the holiday.

bsides · Yesterday 18:38

The twins dd not wake they even checked if they were alive and then moved them to another apartment so likely drugged
If maddy drugged also could have led to overdose

StormGazing · Yesterday 19:13

bsides · Yesterday 18:38

The twins dd not wake they even checked if they were alive and then moved them to another apartment so likely drugged
If maddy drugged also could have led to overdose

What?! I’d very very much doubt kids on holiday, active all day, would struggle to sleep, they’d be knackered. Also, just because they’re doctors it doesn’t mean they get heavy drugs easily, it’s really unlikely!
I think, because they had booked that restaurant all week at the same time, anyone in the hotel that was interested in finding things out would be able to orchestrate the stealing of a child. I suspect there was staff infiltration, no doubt money changing hands, to identify which parents were at dinner without their kids and which weren’t in the babysitter facility. It’s likely that their holiday mode of assumption of safeness was incorrect and it resulted in disaster

Empress13 · Yesterday 19:18

itsgettingweird · Yesterday 18:18

O decided to listen to some of the Johnny English and Austrian guy podcast.

oh my fucking god. I had to stop. He didn’t finish 1 sentence, made Trump look like a sensible communicator, and the reason he couldn’t finish a sentence is he went off more exits than that roundabout in Swindon has.

there is NO WAY I could get through nearly 3 hours of it.

i don't believe the parents are involved anyway it im always open to listening to viewpoints.

I could not listen to this though.

You were obviously listening to the wrong one as its James not Johnny 🤣

bigboykitty · Yesterday 19:26

StormGazing · Yesterday 19:13

What?! I’d very very much doubt kids on holiday, active all day, would struggle to sleep, they’d be knackered. Also, just because they’re doctors it doesn’t mean they get heavy drugs easily, it’s really unlikely!
I think, because they had booked that restaurant all week at the same time, anyone in the hotel that was interested in finding things out would be able to orchestrate the stealing of a child. I suspect there was staff infiltration, no doubt money changing hands, to identify which parents were at dinner without their kids and which weren’t in the babysitter facility. It’s likely that their holiday mode of assumption of safeness was incorrect and it resulted in disaster

Good to remind everyone they are doctors, because as such they were trained in safeguarding. Had they seen a patient who disclosed leaving a child alone, they would have been required to refer to social care for neglect. They knew exactly how wrong it was. I'm not sure why you think they'd need 'heavy drugs'. Plenty of over the counter drugs available that would do the trick.

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Yesterday 19:27

bsides · Yesterday 18:38

The twins dd not wake they even checked if they were alive and then moved them to another apartment so likely drugged
If maddy drugged also could have led to overdose

I used to be able to change my DCs nappy and strap them into their car seats without them waking up after a day at the beach at that age!

Empress13 · Yesterday 19:29

Tbh I’m on the fence with the McCanns and truth is we will probably never know what happened that night. What I do stand by is the way GM in all his interviews never once took blame for leaving his children unattended in a strange country especially 2 of which were babies . He has never once uttered the words “I really regret leaving them” so forgive me for thinking he isn’t the nicest of people

bsides · Yesterday 19:50

PercyPigsAreOverRated

did you also check if they were alive?

itsgettingweird · Yesterday 19:51

Empress13 · Yesterday 19:18

You were obviously listening to the wrong one as its James not Johnny 🤣

Oh yeah it was James 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

got confused!!! James himself didn’t speak much and seemed quite sensible but the other guy was on a monologue

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Yesterday 19:56

bsides · Yesterday 19:50

PercyPigsAreOverRated

did you also check if they were alive?

In the sense that I could see they were breathing the whole time, yes.

bsides · Yesterday 20:30

PercyPigsAreOverRated
Kate noted that throwing herself against the walls or hitting the radiators was a visceral reaction to the situation. She explained that making herself feel physical pain was the only way she could temporarily escape or distract herself from the intense internal pain she was suffering.
: In the same sections of her book, she mentions other explosive releases of frustration, such as screaming, swearing, and kicking an extra bed brought into the apartment until its end smashed off.
As well as all the other activity

very sound sleeping twins

LemonTyger · Yesterday 20:38

SequoiaTree · Yesterday 12:29

People who feel the need to persecute them over and over, what are you getting out of it? Does it make you feel better about your own life?
Yes that's exactly why they do it

No. It’s because it’s a shocking miscarriage of justice. People are outraged and would like justice for the victim, Madeline. Even there was an abduction, first she was a victim of her parents severe neglect (at best).

crazytiredrn · Yesterday 20:39

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Yesterday 19:27

I used to be able to change my DCs nappy and strap them into their car seats without them waking up after a day at the beach at that age!

I read the PJ files and recall that throughout all the commotion, footfall in the apartment and high emotions the twins didn’t wake up. They were carried to one of the neighbouring apartments and slept throughout.

LemonTyger · Yesterday 20:48

icannotlivelaughloveintheseconditions · Yesterday 11:24

I’d say the fire was worse because she smoked in the house/around her kids and didn’t ensure she had extinguished her cigarette before leaving her children.
The other thing is it was normal in previous times to leave your kids in a hotel room or a chalet /apartment and go to a different part of the hotel / site to watch/drink with staff or parents doing checks on kids . It happened to countless people myself included and rarely went wrong so wasn’t seen at the time as a dangerous or reckless behaviour. I’d assume the mccanns saw it as a similar situation . It’s one of many things you look back on and think wtf? Including hitting kids, smoking in communal spaces, leaving kids outside shops/pubs in a pram, no seatbelts in cars.

Times change and we learn from past experiences and do better.

I’ve not seen any suggestion she knowingly left it lit, yes she didn’t check. Awful. However the McCanns knowingly left the apartment unlocked. They knowingly left their children in an unlocked apartment after having little to do with them in the day so they could enjoy their holiday. There’s also questions about whether the window was open, or the blinds open etc. How often they really went to check on them….
It’s awful just as their story, without going into other theories / looking at evidence besides their story. They deserved a worse sentence than this woman in a similar case, but got away without any charges.

bigboykitty · Yesterday 20:50

SequoiaTree · Yesterday 12:29

People who feel the need to persecute them over and over, what are you getting out of it? Does it make you feel better about your own life?
Yes that's exactly why they do it

Doing the absolute basics of parenting, actually just not leaving your small children alone and unprotected, isn't something to brag about. It's the bare minimum.

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Yesterday 20:51

bsides · Yesterday 20:30

PercyPigsAreOverRated
Kate noted that throwing herself against the walls or hitting the radiators was a visceral reaction to the situation. She explained that making herself feel physical pain was the only way she could temporarily escape or distract herself from the intense internal pain she was suffering.
: In the same sections of her book, she mentions other explosive releases of frustration, such as screaming, swearing, and kicking an extra bed brought into the apartment until its end smashed off.
As well as all the other activity

very sound sleeping twins

Right? If I was making that much noise and the baby didn't wake up then I'd check they were alive too. Not because I'd drugged them, but because I'd be amazed they slept through it.

It was definitely recommended to me now than once around 2007 to medicate my DC to sleep BTW. I never did.

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