Nadia - stop moaning and get a job.....

[mids2019]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15628823/Nadiya-Hussain-attack-BBC-cancelled-difficult-conversations.html

I think this woman needs her to realise her star has fallen like a lot of minor celebs. She has had a good run and everything has did was tired. New cookery blood should be allowed a chance.

I thinks it's undignified to start accusing her erstwhile employers of racism.

You've made up the intent and you're here twisting almost every post you reply to, not just mine

Tell me about some white celebs and I'll absolutely tell you which ones should be grateful. Ive already mentioned Greg (not a chef), to which you nearly collapsed at the nerve of mentioning him on the thread, he was given opportunities he didnt deserve and should be absolutely grateful.

I think he might be an example of diversifying too much, there is a limit.

What are you talking about? I summarised some views on this thread, you accused me of making them up, I then quoted the views and you agreed with them.

What intent have I made up and what have I twisted?

You've changed your tune on Gregg, none of your earlier posts said he didn't deserve them and that he should be grateful.

There are many people in many fields who have made the most of minimal talent. Not wishing to get into a further argument I won't name them. Some of them know they are very lucky to have had the opportunity to make mega bucks on the small amount of talent they have, I think unless Nadiya can come up with some other product then she might have to accept that she has peaked.

I don't believe you for a minute.

You are not seriously saying that when someone asks you how you earn a living you say 'I take money from the public purse' or 'I take the tax payers' money'.

You are not seriously saying that, every time a colleague of yours goes applying for another job, he or she writes on his or her CV 'taking the tax payers' money' under 'current employment'.

If you earn a salary paid by the government; fine. I can believe occasionally you joke that it's the public purse. But pretending that justifies the unpleasant rhetoric about Nadiya not earning her wage is daft.

Your hypothesis was based on a few comments and was inappropriate, that’s why your post was deleted.

It’s a shame there isn’t info in the article re. Viewing numbers….as it’s believable that as a woman who has spoken up she will be labelled as pain.

Exactly.

Exactly this, she is not a chef, she's a reality TV star that's had a very good run in comparison to her peers.

Making these claims keeps her in the public eye, if she didn't pipe up with this nonsense once in a while she'd be long forgotten.

It's ridiculous and nitpicking.

Ive changed my tune on Greg!!!

Where was I singing his praises then?

I dont know why Im spelling this out and playing your game but you are simply trying to make out that any criticism of her and what she might bring or not bring to the telly is about her ethnicity,r ace and religion. Guess what people can be critical of others without that coming into it

There is without a doubt racism and sexism in the world, she will have experienced that without doubt. But her losing her currency? No. Otherwise she wouldnt have had it in the first place, thats what people are saying.

Me, Ive watched every episode of everything she's done and would welcome her more but if she's not being renewed well then so be it.

She's made a lot of money over the years if she's skint now I'd be very surprised. Maybe her husband should be supporting her for a change.

No I dont say it every single time because it doesnt come up in conversation like that every single time but we are well aware as public servants (because the world likes to tell us what a waste of public money we are) that we are taking tax payers money and we do talk about it like that when it comes up

I couldnt care less if you believe me.

I do.
I reckon Brian dowling got lucky.
Harry styles got lucky.
Rylane got lucky.
Jane macdonald got lucky.
They all ran with it.
And the day it ends is the day it ends.
Fuck all to do with anything else.

But she's not a public servant either?

It is utter nonsense to pretend this is in any way relevant, or even coherent.

Obviously people are now going to say all the world and his wife are lucky now that they've been called out on it.

Im sorry if you cant follow the discussion

Someone, might have been you or someone else, I cant remember and dont care, said that it was awful that she was being described as 'taking their money' in relation to her employer. And that BAME are the only ones who are described as 'taking money' rather than being paid a salary

I made a simple point based on my own experience that my colleagues and I, and other friends in the public sector will often use this strapline to describe our salary.

Thats it.

Oh dont be bloody rediculous.
Youre embarrassing yourself now.
Do you know why i say they got lucky?
Because they did.

God bloody Rylan!!

I cant help but like him but he is now roped into doing semi serious programmes!

He lucky as a cat.

You are really scrambling now. And you're flustered too.

Brian Dowling yes, but the others can actually sing! Plus Harry Styles can write songs and Rylan and Jane McDonald are competent presenters.

Not even a bit flustered lol. Why would i be?
Youre not making sense.

People get lucky breaks. Some last some dont.
How else do think it works?

While I don't disagree with you about the fact that it may just be that her TV career has run its course your argument about an Islamic cookbook having less appeal because less than 10% of the population is Muslim is ridiculous!

It was a lifestyle recipe book focussing on Ramadan and Eid, the importance of fasting and how eating together to break fast is an important family event for her with the recipes in there as an anchor.

Many many high profile chefs have brought out similar lifestyle / journey type cookbooks - Nigel Slater, Rick Stein, Jamie Oliver etc and their audiences are wider than people from their own backgrounds.

Do you think Yotam Ottolenghi and Sami Tamimi made a mistake in bringing out Jerusalem which focussed on Jewish and Muslim dishes from the city? By your argument it was a marketing mistake given that such a small percentage of the country is either muslim or jewish - but given it sold thousands of copies in the UK and didn't do his career any harm, that argument isn't really one that stands up to scrutiny (his latest book is currently ranked number 5 in Food Reference and Gastronomy).

Islamic recipes tend to be made up of Middle Eastern, Persian and Indian cuisine - and those sort of cookbooks are incredibly popular - as of today, 5 of the top 10 best sellers in national and international cookery on Amazon feature cook books related to Middle Eastern, Persian or Asian recipes including The Ramadan Kitchen.

Nadiya lost her deals the day she announced the book - it hadn't even been published, so there was no way of knowing whether there was an issue with the marketing or how popular it would be.

So given other lifestyle cook books based on ethnic cuisine do very well and she lost the deals before her book was even published, then there is clearly something else at play - the most obvious thing would be a combination of sexism and anti-muslim sentiment.

They still got lucky to be in the right place right time.