*BRAND NEW Doctor Who Geeks Thread

[KayHarker]

Thought I'd kick it off so we have a new thread for the final leg

Old Thread for the people what likes it all neat 'n' stuff.

It's almost like getting two parallel worlds to collide doing this, but - I think some MNers will enjoy the humour of Lawrence Miles

Warning, though - he takes his reviews down after a few days to make way for the next ones, so this link will be dead in a week.

my god - the hair!!

I don't know why, but I think somehow Donna Noble will be the key to stopping the Doctor's regeneration into someone else. I think she will face a choice and her decision will save everything. I think Donna will sacrifice herself in some way to save the doctor and save the world, whether she actually dies or not.

Anyway, that's my theory based on not much

Good review from Lawrence Miles this week. I always think he's better when he's just focusing on the actual episode.

Wish he'd keep the rants about wider telly issues in a separate section or something so you could go back to them. They're often worth reading, but they also often have sod all to do with the episode.

I don't always agree with him, but that's what being a grown up is like, innit? I must admit, I find his sidebar hilarious (and spot on, tbh)

The sidebar is funny! Although I do like Moffat. Thanks to Miles, though, I will always refer to II.4 as "Fire In The Girlyplace", and I fully expect "fisting the pterodactyl" to enter the fan vocabulary as a synonym for fanwank.

His minute-by-minute comments are the best ones (although this week's starting at -3, I think, was an excuse to make a certain comment about "The Kids Are All Right" even though it wasn't on!). Last week's on "Turn Left" was just an excuse for a dystopian cultural commentary and some dodgy political comparisons!

Aha. Hadn't come across Laurence Miles before...it's like what happens when you ask the team from Grumpy Old Men to do TV criticism.

'Fisting the Pterodactyl' definitely has catch phrase potential. Where does it stand in relation to jumping the shark, do we think?

oh, I love Moffat. But Miles' observations on his DW output so far are accurate. Inconsequential in the bigger picture (us poncey types like to call them 'themes' ).

Fire in the Girlyplace was inspired. I don't agree with him about Donna, I do actually quite like her, but I thought he made his points well. And I did actually accidently read part-way through a slash-fic that bad the other day, so I am in total approval of the Fisting the Pterodactyl phrase.

Shall we just assume that the point in which the pterodactyl gets fisted, DW will have seriously jumped the shark?

Kay, I feel the same about Donna, but LM's comments about characterisation were interesting. She is more unpredictable than Rose or Martha - possibly we can guess which way she will jump better than LM can because we relate to her more?

She clearly doesne give him the horn the way Martha does (and now, apparently Gwen too )

I think that, given that Donna is being set up to be enormously significant (and, spoiler-watchers, I know nothing spoilery about the nature of Donna's significance) I think she's been deliberately written in a different way to Martha and Rose.

There was a plot strand left derelict at the thinking-about-stage, I think, which never made it to the screen, in which there was some cobblers about the Doctor moulding the perfect companion in Rose. Going completely left-field, I wonder if Donna is actually that 'perfect companion' but the Doctor has actually created her in some way directly. So she is the most faithful companion that is prophesied to die?

How that actually pans out, I haven't a scooby. I know some bits about the ending, but it's mostly like having a few key pieces of a jigsaw, but not all, and no clue how they fit into place. Which is exactly what knowing spoilers is supposed to be about, of course.

Arguably, K9 is the most faithful companion. And being sold off for paltry cash is a sort of metaphorical death. Maybe Dalek Caan is just criticising BBC policy?

fnar

lol love the idea of Dalek Caan as a voice of protest at the BBC - maybe I could persuade him to have a word about the difficulty in getting hold of episodes/Confidential on iplayer?

I love this series so much. It's brilliant to be able to share such a significant part of my childhood not only with ds but with my mother, too (who has watched pretty much every episode from the first). Am currently speaking to my mum at least once a day to chew over theories as neither of us can wait until Saturday!

Dior, are you implying that Donna is Susan?

If Jack is the most faithful companion, which is possible, given the lengths he went to to get back to the Doctor, it could be him who dies - and then comes back to life...

I've read that the most faithful companion is TARDIS who is after all a living organism.

With a third Torchwood series commissioned it would be a bit daft to kill off the main characters ....

theres something not-right-at-all about Harriet Jones. she seems very wooden when she is 'harriet Jones (former prime minister)-ing - and she seems very ' i told that silly doctor that i was right and he was wrong and I knew, one day he wouldn't be able to save us.

and i refuse to believe SJ got offed by a few daleks, give her an honourable death rus(sell)ty!

sigh how many sleeps now?

I'm betting that Ianto fists the pterodactyl and that saves them in the Torchwood hub. This is a guess

prepares waterskis for the entire cast

What about Sarah-Jane, though? Who will save her? Two Daleks, primed and ready...

We haven't seen Mickey yet. Maybe he will suddenly appear behind the daleks menacing SJ & blow both their heads of with one blast.....

oo, yes, Harriet Jones, it was all a bit wasn't it? And there was the rhythm that announced her broadcast. Three notes... heard that before somewhere, haven't we? Subliminal, like, but still. sits and ponders because Real life is dull

Mickey is definitely going to be in it [finger tapping nose emoticon]

Rusty, I believe you are right on the money with that one. loves Mickey

So who will the new doctor be? If it's James Nesbit then I'm not watching it ever again. My money's on David Walliams or Russell Brand. What do you lot think?

If Russell Brand ever becomes the Doctor I will pluck out my own eyes.

Or at the very least I'll give myself a chinese burn.

The Mickey-appears-and-rescues-Sarah Jane/Torchwood-crew is an attractive one, certainly. And we know he's in the series finale somewhere along the line...

As for the next doctor? Well, I don't think it's relevant to this series (or next year, I hope) but I rather hanker after an older doctor, a bit grumpier. Maybe Richard Dawkins could build something out of his cameo?