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(Red) Cloak & Dagger: We’re All Being Played | Traitors 2026 - Thread 2

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CaveMum · 02/01/2026 21:04

Link to previous thread here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5467284-traitors-2026-new-years-day?page=1

Stats as per this morning after Episode 1 - I’ll update it again after tonight’s episode.

Confirmed Traitors
Hugo
Rachel
Stephen

Confirmed Faithful
Netty
James
Maz

Secret Traitor Suspects (# of votes)
Fiona (13)
Ross (12)
Amanda (11)
Judy (11)
Roxy (8)
Jade (6)
Harriet (6)
Jessie (3)
Sam (3)
Jack (2)
Netty (2) - Not the ST
Ben (1)
Faraaz (1)

Interestingly, only 4 players have not been named as ST suspects at this point

Adam
Ellie
Matthew
Reece

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Apologies, I can’t see another thread so just starting this one in anticipation. Can’t wait to see what the red cloak is all about!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5467284-traitors-2026-new-years-day?page=1

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FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 09:36

Given they revealed the Judy/Roxy connection very early this time, presumably because she was first boot at round table, if there are other connections (and that inscription certainly hints at it) do we think they’ll also be revealed prior to murder/banishment and is that going to reveal who’ll be next to go?

DarkForces · 03/01/2026 09:37

AuntyAngela · 03/01/2026 09:32

Yes - so in reality the tree isn't showing relationships. Just the contestants on a tree with Latin written on it!

Latin means (and I copied this from elsewhere on the Internet!!):

"Beware whom you trust as your own blood. The sharpest knives are often handed to the table by faithful servants. Among intimate friends lurk the most secret enemies; take care not to let your confidence become the cause of your downfall and agitation."

If only it spelt out a name. I'm far too invested. Off to clean the loos to restore some sanity to my day.

ClaredeBear · 03/01/2026 09:39

Supple · 02/01/2026 21:55

Why is it always a black woman up on the chopping block first? This show is so racist, well the general population are so racist.

Every season, black women, black men, brown women, brown men, old white women, old white men, young women young men - with some outliers.

Grinds my gears ⚙️ that it’s so obvious.

Thanks for raising this - I’ve noticed it too. How does this happen? Is it with the BBC or is this mirroring society? I’m not sure.

TeideHeart · 03/01/2026 09:42

I saw this on Insta. Easy at a glance crib sheet for who might be ST

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FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 09:43

ClaredeBear · 03/01/2026 09:39

Thanks for raising this - I’ve noticed it too. How does this happen? Is it with the BBC or is this mirroring society? I’m not sure.

I’m not sure how it could be the BBC - both Netty and Judy came across well in the edit - so sadly must be a reflection of society.

ClaredeBear · 03/01/2026 09:43

Asianbrit · 02/01/2026 23:59

Yes - it’s always minorities which are visibly different . Nettie didn’t have a chance with being female, black and a visible disability. I don’t think it’s conscious but think it shows how unconscious biases kick into herd mentality.

Agreed.

ClaredeBear · 03/01/2026 09:45

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 09:43

I’m not sure how it could be the BBC - both Netty and Judy came across well in the edit - so sadly must be a reflection of society.

They certainly do. I guess I wonder what could be done to tackle unconscious bias but any measures would surely work against the concept of the whole show. As someone else said, minorities will always stand out.

LighthouseLED · 03/01/2026 09:46

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 09:43

I’m not sure how it could be the BBC - both Netty and Judy came across well in the edit - so sadly must be a reflection of society.

It’s hard to say for sure without knowing who the ST is, though. I think most, if not all, of the people the Traitors said they wanted to murder before they got the shortlist were white - though I’d have to go back and check.

Judy was being mentioned by a lot of people, so it was possible she was acting suspiciously in ways we weren’t shown on the edit.

whataguddle · 03/01/2026 09:48

Am loving it!
Roll on tonight…

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 09:48

The main accusation against Judy was that prior to the traitors being selected she was more chatty and then seemed to become more reserved afterwards. I think that was reflected on the show so does seem to have been true though I don’t think she addressed it at the banishment round table or on Uncloaked. I suppose once in game mode people do change even when they are faithful.

lettingthedaysgoby · 03/01/2026 09:49

ClaredeBear · 03/01/2026 09:39

Thanks for raising this - I’ve noticed it too. How does this happen? Is it with the BBC or is this mirroring society? I’m not sure.

I saw a post elsewhere about this - it's not true that a POC is first out in Traitors UK.
Series 1 - First banished, Maddy. First murder, Aisha (POC)
Series 2 - First banished, Sonja. First murder, Aubrey

So one out of four. I must admit, that was my first reaction to Judy going, that it was always a woman (true) and a POC - but I was wrong.

Seasidewalker · 03/01/2026 09:49

I'm liking the new twist with the ST.

So many thoughts currently but of course we are only seeing what the producers want us to see. Are they showing us the ST this early? Amanda looks obvious but probably too obvious?

Amanda, Hugo and Harriet next to each other at breakfast, all with a legal type background - maybe placed, maybe just similar personalities? I can't see Hugo as a criminal Barrister so would he and Amanda have come across each other? Do we know what kind of a barrister he is?

Harriet was a criminal barrister does that give an Amanda link if we are looking for pairs?

I think we were being shown Ellie as potential ST.

I think my current punt would be Harriet as ST - I reckon it's a woman for balance, and potentially a slightly older player again for balance.

Who knows though 🤷‍♀️🤔. I'm liking it though.

RedToothBrush · 03/01/2026 09:55

The ST raises some interesting strategies and dilemmas.

It's a really hard place to win the game from. The three traitors are after you as well as the faithful. And you can only hide from them for so long - you have to keep putting the same names on your shortlist if you understand the game.

The role of ST means you have to be both strategic and clever as well as an utterly charming person who can build relationships - including with the other traitors. Ideally you want to identify one as the other traitors as your ally and persuade them to take out one of the other two traitors and then recruit someone who you think you can manipulate as their replacement.

You have to understand this dynamic to the role if you want to win. Psychologically it's a particularly stressful role too so it has to be someone who can handle the additional pressures.

Otherwise you are playing the role just to cause chaos but aren't serious about winning unless you are wildly arrogant.

For me this rules out a few people.

Sam doesn't fit the bill unless he's the wildly arrogant type. He is playing too hard too fast and that makes him a target. As a player that doesn't suit the BBC - they will want to have someone who they think will remain undetected for some time. They will prefer someone low profile, sensible and can hold their own to cast in that role.

There's a few other that I ultimately rule out for that reason.

Amanda I struggle with. She's the obvious candidate for the role. But she's also got the role of 'detective' within the cast. You want the police detective to detect rather than go undercover. It could be her but I think it'd be a shame. I also think she'll be perceived as too much of a threat to others reasonably early.

Jade is a good pick, but I am not convinced she'll stay below the radar enough to pull it off. I've not eliminated her yet. She's a possibility but I'm not convinced. Too much of a risk of her ruffling too many feathers.

Fiona is a strange one. I think she's murder not banishment material. She's very likeable and unassuming. I'm not sure if she's ditsy or putting it on. If she's ditsy she's not strategic enough to pull it off. So it's working out if the ditsy is real or an act. She may be difficult to vote off though. She's a traitors shield.

The assumption is the BBC will want to drop hints to viewers. I really don't think they will do that too much. They don't want it to be obvious.

For me I think it will be someone keeping head down early on, so possibly not getting too much airtime.

The ST will want to put those who look most faithful up for murder first - the ones least likely to be banished and leave the more suspicious ones - with Fiona being their exception and shield. I absolutely wouldn't put Fiona on the murder list. She will draw attention as being the possible ST but the Traitors will struggle to get rid of her. If they try and go for her, I suspect at least one of them will self destruct / fall under suspicion which is exactly what you want as the ST. It's also why you might pick her as ST tbh.

Right now the three I'm looking at most are Jack, Harriet and possibly Faraaz. They are solidly in the pack, seem off radar and likeable. They all also seem strategic and intelligent and likely to go some distance in the game.

But I'm very much open minded and don't think I'll hitch my wagon to anyone for another couple of episodes tbh.

RedToothBrush · 03/01/2026 09:57

Oh and the ST isn't Ross. I just think he's not. He's not playing a great game and was torpedoed by Netty.

WriterOfWrongs · 03/01/2026 10:02

FrodoBiggins · 03/01/2026 04:01

ST had a pool of 9 or 8, depending on whether ST themselves had a coffin

Yes good point, could have been a pool of 8.

lettingthedaysgoby · 03/01/2026 10:03

So, in the edit, the Traitors get more screen time and then the players that are about to be banished or murdered also appear more (to get everyone a share of exposure). I would think the ST would get more screen time, possibly in increasing amounts, otherwise everyone will think 'Who?' when they are finally revealed...

RessicaJabbit · 03/01/2026 10:04

lettingthedaysgoby · 03/01/2026 10:03

So, in the edit, the Traitors get more screen time and then the players that are about to be banished or murdered also appear more (to get everyone a share of exposure). I would think the ST would get more screen time, possibly in increasing amounts, otherwise everyone will think 'Who?' when they are finally revealed...

It's early days, they don't give everyone equal air time at this point as there's so many.

See interchangeable white dude this series... Interchangable blonde from last series...

You'll get to know them as needed!

lettingthedaysgoby · 03/01/2026 10:08

RessicaJabbit · 03/01/2026 10:04

It's early days, they don't give everyone equal air time at this point as there's so many.

See interchangeable white dude this series... Interchangable blonde from last series...

You'll get to know them as needed!

Yes, that's my point. I suspect the ST will be getting a little more airtime in these early episodes so they are established as a character with backstory in the castle when eventually revealed.

MaggieFS · 03/01/2026 10:12

lettingthedaysgoby · 03/01/2026 10:03

So, in the edit, the Traitors get more screen time and then the players that are about to be banished or murdered also appear more (to get everyone a share of exposure). I would think the ST would get more screen time, possibly in increasing amounts, otherwise everyone will think 'Who?' when they are finally revealed...

Yes, on that basis it’s not likely to be Reece or Matthew because we’ve barely seen them, and it would look a bit stupid if there’s a reveal of the st and we all say “who?”. So I think it needs to be someone we’re seeing a moderate amount of. Harriet or Fiona are probably my lead options at the mo.

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 10:13

Or the ST goes the distance in which case there’s loads of time to bring them into it.

whataguddle · 03/01/2026 10:15

The ST role is a tough one as you are working alone and no one to bounce ideas off. Also the names you give are faithfuls so slowly you are whittling down the pool and the Traitors will know that those on the kill list can’t be the ST.

I don’t think the ST can last that long if they can’t repeat the same names and keep the pool of possibles as wide as possible of who the ST may be from the Traitors.

2 kill lists so far naming 5 different people as Maz is a repeat …can they only repeat one name on each list?

The Traitors at the moment are limited as they aren’t choosing amongst themselves and playing the game of planting seeds amongst the players as they are just given a list …their hands are tied!

Wonder how long the ST can last…once the Traitors get a hunch they can try and go for a banishment to get rid of them.

I thought Judy was the ST her demeanour.

whataguddle · 03/01/2026 10:17

I now think the ST is Fiona.

RedToothBrush · 03/01/2026 10:18

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 10:13

Or the ST goes the distance in which case there’s loads of time to bring them into it.

You need to remember this.

The producers do the edit AFTER the series conclusion. So they can story build and misdirect from early on.

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 10:21

@whataguddle we thought a disadvantage for the ST is that unlike the traitors they don’t have eyes and ears in other conversations - the traitors can and do warn each other when their names come up in discussion with faithfuls but the ST won’t have that. So in terms of choosing a murder shortlist they could be missing out people who have suspicions of them.

FrothyCothy · 03/01/2026 10:21

Equally if someone goes in hard on the ST and that name appears on a shortlist then it should be a clue to the known traitors.

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