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The Traitors #12 why are we still here?!

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witchycat2 · 25/01/2025 11:00

The third series may be over but we still have a lot to say.

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WinterCosiness · 27/01/2025 13:30

Dreammouse · 27/01/2025 12:53

Didn't she say she wanted to put the money towards her son going to uni? Doesn't seem overly wild.

Oh absolutely, a very noble cause 😊 I'm sure she wasn't planning to spend it on diamonds and champagne! (I wonder if anyone would ever be honest enough to admit to that?! 🤔😂) but it doesn't alter the fact she's clearly not a poverty-stricken single mum having to use a food bank to feed her family! I think the series one winners, even if they kind of won by accident, clearly all really needed the money, which made their win feel very satisfying, especially lovely Arron helping his mum buy a house 😊 That was touching.

monsterfish · 27/01/2025 13:33

Oh well over now - Leanne was a disappointing winner. I am not watching the US one but the NZ one (on player) was quite entertaining - it had some really strong characters but also a nice vibe to it.

WinterCosiness · 27/01/2025 13:33

SauvignonBlanche · 27/01/2025 13:25

I donated to Mencap last night.

There was a box at the end that asks what was the reason for your donation.
I put Alexander ❤️ #TheTraitorsUK

Bless you. You've inspired me ❤️

WinterCosiness · 27/01/2025 13:39

Anyway, lovely to chat with you all. I guess we're the last few still chatting on these threads?! I think last year it was about five days before I stopped dwelling on the result 🤭 (oh how I wanted Jaz to win!) so, hopefully I should have moved on from this year's offering soon! Lunch break almost over, so I'd better crack on! 😀

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 27/01/2025 13:46

I've been thinking about the traitors a lot and although I love watching it I really don't think I could ever go on anything like that. I appreciate it's entertaining but shows where you actively have to do someone over to win are just a bit grim. The same for any split/steal type game show. Goldenballs could be savage! I just don't think I could truly enjoy my winnings knowing I'd had to take it away from someone else through sheer deception and lies.
And yes I appreciate when they sign up they know the name of the game and it's their choice. It wouldn't be for me. Some of them do seem to make genuine connections with each other - Harry and Molly for example, or the lady traitor from the American series who took a young, impressionable woman under her wing only to fuck her over at the end. It's just not very nice is it?
Real money is at stake. They've taken that from someone so not sure how they all manage to sit nicely and friendly on Uncloaked. I'd be very bitter I think.

I feel the same. I love the show but hated how so many contestants (often Traitors) justified their behaviour and lies by saying 'I'm just playing the game'. Technically that's true but it takes a certain type of person to manipulate and bad mouth other people behind their backs just for a game.

I disliked Charlotte from the start. With that whole fake Welsh accent crap, she went in there deliberately lying to everyone, I'm not sure the others could believe a word she said, even about the IVF stuff. I felt really sorry for Freddie, Charlotte was an absolute shit towards him, she knew that he'd come under so much pressure to prove he was a Faithful and then he had no choice about becoming a Traitor. I was so glad when he realised what a lying shit she really was. Plus all the bloody fake crying on the last day.

I think it was a shame that all the final four Faithfuls didn't win but as Frankie said, they just didn't trust each other enough. I have no idea why they seem to assume certain things (like all the Traitors are women or that there must be a Traitor in the final four), I would love to hear a psychologist's interpretation of it all.

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 27/01/2025 13:49

I wouldn't go on because of the intrusion into you life. Who wants people googling your house to decide if they think you are worthy of winning some cash on a TV show?

MaggieFS · 27/01/2025 13:57

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 27/01/2025 13:49

I wouldn't go on because of the intrusion into you life. Who wants people googling your house to decide if they think you are worthy of winning some cash on a TV show?

Exactly.

But then I saw someone win more than £47k on the 1% club (and I'd got all of the questions correct) and I thought "perhaps that's the answer" 😂.

latetothefisting · 27/01/2025 14:01

I was thinking about the reasons for wanting the money earlier, mainly the IVF. It seemed mad to me that out of, what, 23? contestants, at least 3 wanted to use the money for that - and it's possible there were others who weren't comfortable bringing it up on national tv. I know it's a selective sample due to the ages of the contestants (i.e. if you had a wider age spread there would be fewer people in the 'wanting babies') category, and, as the pp said you don't know the whole story, people might think that it gave them a better chance of being picked than just 'I'd like to go on a nice holiday!',

But even given that, it's a startling statistic - nearly 1 in 7 of the contestants. Does it say something about the UK that medical treatment is so unaffordable that people are going on a gameshow to obtain it? I would hate for us to become like the US. I know IVF funding is a bit of a postcode lottery, and the NHS can't fund everything, but given how much angst there seems to be about the birthrate decreasing, you'd think giving people who seem to all be, on the face of it, ideal candidates (in terms of age, in apparently stable relationships and careers, UK nationals for everyone angsting about immigration, etc.) as much support as possible would be a good thing to spend money on?

And then I thought about some of the other reasons - Alexander wanting to buy a flat, Frankie and Freddie wanting money to help for university - again, not saying anything is right or wrong, but 30, or even 20 years ago a civil servant in a fairly high up position would have been able to afford a flat by their late thirties, and decently bright teenagers would have been able to just go to uni without them/their parents worrying about being tens/hundreds of thousands in debt.

Not sure exactly what I'm trying to say really, basically just musing if it's a reflection of the decreased QoL for the UK in that things previously fairly easily achievable are now much harder to obtain/out of reach....

whaddayawannado · 27/01/2025 14:03

It's interesting that the discussions on here have been only about the childcare arrangements of female contestants...

jay55 · 27/01/2025 14:08

Contestants on the Aussie version were also after money for ivf and it's been a thing on other Aussie competition shows too, I've seen it come up in masterchef and my kitchen rules before.

mewkins · 27/01/2025 14:09

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 27/01/2025 13:46

I've been thinking about the traitors a lot and although I love watching it I really don't think I could ever go on anything like that. I appreciate it's entertaining but shows where you actively have to do someone over to win are just a bit grim. The same for any split/steal type game show. Goldenballs could be savage! I just don't think I could truly enjoy my winnings knowing I'd had to take it away from someone else through sheer deception and lies.
And yes I appreciate when they sign up they know the name of the game and it's their choice. It wouldn't be for me. Some of them do seem to make genuine connections with each other - Harry and Molly for example, or the lady traitor from the American series who took a young, impressionable woman under her wing only to fuck her over at the end. It's just not very nice is it?
Real money is at stake. They've taken that from someone so not sure how they all manage to sit nicely and friendly on Uncloaked. I'd be very bitter I think.

I feel the same. I love the show but hated how so many contestants (often Traitors) justified their behaviour and lies by saying 'I'm just playing the game'. Technically that's true but it takes a certain type of person to manipulate and bad mouth other people behind their backs just for a game.

I disliked Charlotte from the start. With that whole fake Welsh accent crap, she went in there deliberately lying to everyone, I'm not sure the others could believe a word she said, even about the IVF stuff. I felt really sorry for Freddie, Charlotte was an absolute shit towards him, she knew that he'd come under so much pressure to prove he was a Faithful and then he had no choice about becoming a Traitor. I was so glad when he realised what a lying shit she really was. Plus all the bloody fake crying on the last day.

I think it was a shame that all the final four Faithfuls didn't win but as Frankie said, they just didn't trust each other enough. I have no idea why they seem to assume certain things (like all the Traitors are women or that there must be a Traitor in the final four), I would love to hear a psychologist's interpretation of it all.

Regardless of it being a game Charlotte did some questionable things. Yes, not even giving Freddie a chance to breathe before screwing him over (needlessly- she could have kept him in another day and arguably gained little from doing this. Who knows, frankie would probably have chosen him for the Seer thing) so it may have even cost her the game. Also at the round table where she was banished, one of the last things Charlotte said was 'well even if you get me out, you need to look at Frankie as well'. Basically saying that if she lost the game then she didn't want frankie to win either. If I was frankie, I don't think I could overlooked that. It's quite spiteful.

TheFifthTellytubby · 27/01/2025 14:20

MaggieFS · 27/01/2025 13:57

Exactly.

But then I saw someone win more than £47k on the 1% club (and I'd got all of the questions correct) and I thought "perhaps that's the answer" 😂.

In return for the effort involved - three weeks away from your family, massive amounts of stress, huge intrusion into your personal life, etc. - it does seem that the prize money for winning the show isn't that great if you compare it to e.g. The 1% Club, The Wheel, Who Wants to be a Millionaire, etc. - all of which pay out similar amounts or more to the winner for a much smaller personal investment!

Tomatotater · 27/01/2025 14:35

mewkins · 27/01/2025 11:43

Frankie is 44. Her youngest is 8 or 9 but it is all filmed in the summer when presumably the kids were off on holiday with either their dad or grandparents.

Oops! I thought she was 50! Maybe because I have a 16 year old and am 50 I assumed but forgot other more sensible people have babies in their 20's!
Anyway, re Frankie, you could say similar about all of them. Leanne has 2 kids. Why is paying for someones IVF for her 3rd child more deserving? Or why is it more deserving for Charlotte to spend it on her safari? Jake, fair enough his parents sacrificed a lot and he wanted to give them cash but he may not do that. It's a game and if they win it, they can spend it all on the roulette wheels if they like. Doesn't matter how wealthy they were beforehand.

Tomatotater · 27/01/2025 14:37

mewkins · 27/01/2025 14:09

Regardless of it being a game Charlotte did some questionable things. Yes, not even giving Freddie a chance to breathe before screwing him over (needlessly- she could have kept him in another day and arguably gained little from doing this. Who knows, frankie would probably have chosen him for the Seer thing) so it may have even cost her the game. Also at the round table where she was banished, one of the last things Charlotte said was 'well even if you get me out, you need to look at Frankie as well'. Basically saying that if she lost the game then she didn't want frankie to win either. If I was frankie, I don't think I could overlooked that. It's quite spiteful.

I agree. She comes across as lovely out of the show but she had an unpleasant streak towards the end when she was the last traitor. Minah was never like that and lasted much longer.

Tomatotater · 27/01/2025 14:41

WinterCosiness · 27/01/2025 13:33

Bless you. You've inspired me ❤️

I didn't realise what charity it was. I often donate to Mencap but I'll add some money in too in Alexander's name!

fingerbobz · 27/01/2025 14:54

@latetothefisting

Leanne has probably already had NHS help to conceive twins: just a guess . She wouldn't be eligible now she has a family already

Maybe Charlottes already been through it and wants another stab but will have to pay?

IVF is pretty accessible on NHS in my experience. Providing you are under 40 and don't already have a child

SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense · 27/01/2025 15:19

Slight change of subject but is anybody else in a proper post traitors slump? I can’t find enthusiasm for anything today 🤦‍♀️

whaddayawannado · 27/01/2025 15:21

It's a game show. Anyone can apply, irrespective of whether they 'need' the money or not. I just don't understand why some posters are preoccupied with whether some contestants are more deserving of the money than others, and therefore deserve to win.

CarefulN0w · 27/01/2025 16:04

fingerbobz · 27/01/2025 14:54

@latetothefisting

Leanne has probably already had NHS help to conceive twins: just a guess . She wouldn't be eligible now she has a family already

Maybe Charlottes already been through it and wants another stab but will have to pay?

IVF is pretty accessible on NHS in my experience. Providing you are under 40 and don't already have a child

It's usually only available on the NHS to people with medical infertility, which means same sex couples don't usually qualify.

Charlotte did say something like her body just wasn't very good at getting pregnant, so it is possible that she had previously had IVF and now needs to self fund.

Knockgour · 27/01/2025 16:09

whaddayawannado · 27/01/2025 15:21

It's a game show. Anyone can apply, irrespective of whether they 'need' the money or not. I just don't understand why some posters are preoccupied with whether some contestants are more deserving of the money than others, and therefore deserve to win.

Agreed. I admire whoever it was who said (Joe? or did I imagine this?) he'd have bought a shed with his winnings.

I'd hate for the Traitors to go the same way as the unpleasant Beast Games or the equally unpleasant Youtube videos by the same ultra-rich idiot Jimmy Whatsit where you have contestants weeping and screaming about cancer treatment and homelessness as a way to try to convince another contestant to let them progress towards winning some ludicrously large sum.

It's a horrible insight into poverty in the US, and into how far people are prepared to go for a very slim chance of winning millions, but I'd prefer Traitors to stay a game show of flimsy logic, silly missions and voting people out because of a look in their eye or because they're a doctor or read books.😀

I certainly don't need anyone to be a worthy winner.

SoScarletItWas · 27/01/2025 17:14

@Knockgour yep Leon said he needed a new shed on Uncloaked 😄

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 27/01/2025 17:39

Also at the round table where she was banished, one of the last things Charlotte said was 'well even if you get me out, you need to look at Frankie as well'. Basically saying that if she lost the game then she didn't want frankie to win either. If I was frankie, I don't think I could overlooked that. It's quite spiteful.

Yes wasn't it something like 'Don't trust that woman'? I think Charlotte said she struggled to watch that last episode, I'm not surprised because I think she comes out of it looking like a not very nice person.

witchycat2 · 27/01/2025 17:49

Charlotte went too far with that comment imo. Maybe she did regret it as soon as she said it and just got too caught up on the game.

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WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 27/01/2025 18:10

SauvignonBlanche · 27/01/2025 13:25

I donated to Mencap last night.

There was a box at the end that asks what was the reason for your donation.
I put Alexander ❤️ #TheTraitorsUK

Have donated also 🥰

mewkins · 27/01/2025 18:57

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 27/01/2025 17:39

Also at the round table where she was banished, one of the last things Charlotte said was 'well even if you get me out, you need to look at Frankie as well'. Basically saying that if she lost the game then she didn't want frankie to win either. If I was frankie, I don't think I could overlooked that. It's quite spiteful.

Yes wasn't it something like 'Don't trust that woman'? I think Charlotte said she struggled to watch that last episode, I'm not surprised because I think she comes out of it looking like a not very nice person.

It wasn't her finest moment...and she was supposed to be her friend 😆