The Traitors VIII - Frankie ain't Freddie's mother

[witchycat2]

As we enter the final week of The Traitors series 3, who will be victorious?

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I imagine that was largely a producer decision in the editing room, to try to create a bit of tension in the traitors’ intra -relationships.

It’s been so drama-free this season.

There was no internal skulduggery at all. Armani was banished without apparently suspecting a thing in advance, Linda and Minah got on like a house on fire and Linda gave Minah permission to banish her when it was clear she would get a lot of votes, and Charlotte blended well with Minah as a late recruit. Minah, after Armani left, being a calm, low-key individual, probably set the tone for pleasant, drama-free traitors’ meetings.

Which is why she’s liked so much both in the game and by viewers, but why the producers might be anxious to try to suggest a bit internal dissent (‘conniving’ Charlotte pulling the wool over the eyes of ‘trusting in the Sisterhood’ Minah!) to try to make for better tv.

I mean, virtually all the ‘drama’ this season has been personality clashes among the Faithful. But imagine if they’d cast gobby, abrasive Leanne as a traitor alongside Armani, and had Fozia in as a traitor from the start. Probably huge fireworks.

I just think the production crew may have worried about their choice of traitors being too ‘drama-free’ after Armani was banished.

True. But she wouldn’t have actively mentioned Charlotte’s name or tried to get her out (which could be a strategy to make it look like she wasn’t a traitor).

If it looked like Charlotte was going down then, as she did with Linda, I think she would have written her name. I do genuinely think she wanted to get to the final with her. She was naive to suggest splitting the money though! Charlotte’s face at that point!

Yep that’s true! Chatlotte did the right thing getting rid of Minah then …it’s a game and everyone it to win it

It's a game though, and they know that when they enter. Charlotte is playing is very well!

Yep agree it’s a game they know the deal when they join …

i think that, inadvertently, she’s protected Freddie a little, because the rest might not suspect that there was a recruitment if they all think Leanne was targeted to be murdered.

freddie has to fight hard for Charlotte to be banished, this way they would all think that the Leanne thing was a tactic she employed to try and blame it on him and Alexander.

i just think Charlotte has given herself more work. she could be one faithful down and have a traitor next to her that might trust her.

so is tonight’s round table still a normal one where the person banished reveals their role?

also, even though the seer sees everyone’s true identity, in other versions, only one person gets to choose which of the others have to reveal their role to them.

But Minah also admitted she loved it too and everyone loved her.
Charlotte is just playing a good game and you can't blame her for not trusting Minah who voted against Armani and Linda and would have voted against Charlotte if it looked as though the table was turning against her

Whilst we all know it's a game, the reason we enjoy the programme is because we respond
to personalities and relationships. Like the players do. It's a sort of investment in the game. Without that engagement with the players the programme is no more than a sort of human "Deal or No Deal". It's guesswork with personalities.

Not necessarily in previous series if someone was recruited none was murdered that night. The faithfuls don't know that they can recruit and murder the same night.

What privilege is she hiding being English? As someone who has been there and seen that infertility is not a privilege that's for sure.

If one traitor so blatantly went after another from the first day as he did in relation to Linda, I suspect the other two would have ganged up on him pretty quickly to get rid, as clearly neither could trust him.

And all this actually happened last May, so even if you were terribly upset at the time, you’ve had plenty of time to calm down, laugh at yourself, connect with other banished players (and of course they’re the only people you’ve been able to talk to about it) and generally get some perspective.

I think the producers will have made a conscious decision not to do an interview with a potentially upset/angry player immediately after their banishment, but to present that person clearly later on, nicely dressed, composed, and being cheerful about it. And then to have them on Uncloaked being funny and self-deprecating with a bunch of friendly panellists. It’s kind of the ‘no animals were harmed in the making of this production’ equivalent!

Actually, it reminds me of the Deborah Warner Medea from ages ago in the west end, where Fiona Shaw’s Medea had to carry on stage the bloody bodies of the two little actors playing her sons. Even though these kids were really young (had to be, because she had to be able to carry them onstage!) and weren’t needed in the second half because their characters were dead so they could have gone home to bed, they came on, all clean and waving in their dressing gowns, for the curtain call, just to show the audience they were fine!

I think Uncloaked in particular performs the same function for the viewers.

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Yes, agreed. And Minah did vote off Linda and Armani, so why wouldn't Charlotte think Minah wouldn't vote her off, especially as a new recruit.

Love how Joe said on Uncloaked he felt he owed the nation an apology about Kas.

Thanks for the new thread @witchycat2 - see you all there 😀 (I wish there was a Traitors emoji).

A Traitors emoji would be excellent

I will join you on the new thread shortly, but wanted to comment on this.

Isn't it interesting that an all-female group of Traitors turned out to be so drama-free, given that I think stereotypically you might think of groups of women being bitchy/backstabbing? It possibly suggests that when the stakes are high, women are better team players than men?

Absolutely agree 💯 and I think worthy of discussion on the new thread.

We need a traitors emoji!

Isn't it interesting that an all-female group of Traitors turned out to be so drama-free, given that I think stereotypically you might think of groups of women being bitchy/backstabbing? It possibly suggests that when the stakes are high, women are better team players than men?

This is a very good point

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