The Traitors #2

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Carry on discussion for the 3rd series of The Traitors

Ooh. Interesting thought. There is a slight familiarity there.

I’m sure there is another relationship in there.

They asked Armani on Uncloaked is she regretted letting on that Maia was her sister and she said yes. So perhaps they are told it’s up to them if they let people know.

I liked Armani more after listening to Uncloaked. But she was still her own worst enemy in there.

@Sammy900
I agree re the 3....I felt that was so unfair when it happened!!

I don't think Kas will agree to be recruited of he survives the next round table. He knows he's on his way out and is angry enough about people suspecting his job that he'll want the satisfaction of saying he's a faithful.

Armani grew on me on Uncloaked. She's still a bit much but not in an arrogant victim way. I think she'd be a lot of fun when not under pressure.

Is Alex trans? Non binary? Definitely female. Anyone know.

I agree. From a traitors point of view, Kas would be an easy recruit, as he's getting banished one way or another.

However, I would prefer him to be banished as a faithful with his head held high, if only to wipe the smirk off the '"100% Certain" idiots.

Alex hasn’t said but did say that they wanted to win to get money for IVF as bio children was not a possibility for them and their fiancé.
I don’t think that Alex was born male.

There are suspicions Alex is a trans man due to appearing in Pink News (an LGBTQ publication) but nothing has been confirmed. All we know is he/they have a wife and can't have a biological child for whatever reason.

I think Alex is female. DH doesn't agree 😆

I think Alex is female to male trans from when I first saw him, but that's not his defining feature. I'm transfixed by the hair. Not so much the pink, but the fact that the shaved sides are different colours as well 😀and the stretched ears, they make me feel a bit funny.

Dyed hair, small frame, shaded in forearm, works in care, wants IVF, voice like a stereotypical Glaswegian lesbian... Alex is definitely female.

I know, does Paul realise that the contestants don’t choose themselves to be traitors and that they have also don’t have to give a clever reason?

I also hate the way they take the ‘murder’ aspect so literally. They know they aren’t really being killed right?

I thought Kaz’s Harold Shipman joke was really funny and very fitting and that the snowflake contingent (pink hair optional) massively over reacted. Gen Z seem to think just uttering the name of a bad person is offensive and that context is not ever needed.

Also looks like they probably carry a bit of a whiff of damp/washing left in the washing machine for 3 days, about them

Pink hair Alex is so obviously a female to male trans. Instant dislike when they announced 'we should all say our reasons why we need the money' jog off.

Just catching up.

I did wonder if Alex was trans but he's quite physically strong in the tasks - more than the women. Whatever their sexuality, he seems intelligent and not really influenced so far.

Agree with @Piggywaspushed about Joe. I felt his attitude to Kas last night showed at the least unconscious bias and at worst racism. Very depressing the way intelligent brown men are treated.

I saw someone on reddit discussing how this year's men have been affected by having no male traitors. There's no strong male who knows they're not in danger so are quite relaxed like Paul & Harry last year, so the men are coming across as quite neurotic. Interesting theory.

I don't think they can recruit Kas as they'll have a banishment before the next recruitment/murder unless they mix things up with the rail replacement.

I do really hope they can keep some intelligent people in. I have high hopes for Fozia & Alexander, and think army Barbie is also doing well.

Who gives a toss whether Alex is trans 🙄 he seems one of the more sane and sensible players thus far

I think they may decide not to recruit . They don't need to and I don't see the advantages of having an extra person. In fact at the end it's best for the traitor to be the only one left as they would get all the money to themselves

It’s only better for the traitor to be the only one left if there hasn’t been a traitor banished since the final murder. Otherwise at least one of the others will work out there must still be a traitor left. Better for there to be two and throw the other under the bus early in the final.

Who is Fozia? Is she the woman who got off the train? Having an Alex and an Alexander might confuse me!

I like Alex and am warming to Livi who will do well.

I actually don’t mind Armani. I think in certain circumstances she would be good company. For example if you were the outsider somewhere I think she is the type of person to say, hey a few of us are going out for drinks on Friday, do you want to come?
In those sort of situations I think she would be good to know. I’m not saying I would want to work along side her every day though! However, I’d prefer to work with her than either Dan or Joe, or Tyler for that matter.

I like Alex too, and agree he comes across as one of the more sane and sensible ones!

Yes that's her

I'm assuming they're trying to double-guess the production team's choices - in the way the barber (sorry, can't remember his name) said what's the point of two sisters if one of you isn't a traitor? I do think they've been a bit obvious in two of the Traitor choices this year.

What I can't understand is why they're not thinking about the people Armani voted for/tried to create suspicion about as being most likely Faithfuls. She was quite vocal so you'd have a lot of material there.

The only thing I have against Alex was his reasoning that they should state what they will do with the money. That this should have any baring on who stays and who goes. No. I don’t give a damn what someone says they want the money for. I would much rather someone I like win the money than anyone else.
And obviously if challenged I would concoct a story about my dying relative whose only hope of living is to go to the USA and have lifesaving treatment which of course, they can’t afford……,,
I don’t care what you say is your reason for being on the show.

Well said.

I agree with this and also surprised that the sisters didn't have more of a game plan to get to the end together...not sure if it would've protected them later on though as sooner or later the team would be at least booting one out to make the winnings fairer