Eurovision Malmö 3

[RedToothBrush]

Let's get a result...

I’m sorry but those two songs were nothing like each other.

I looked up Norway's lyrics as I loved the song (in the minority I know!). It was a dark, traditional folk tale about a girl who was turned into a wolf by her evil stepmother).

I wish we could have subtitles with a translation of the lyrics. Would love to know what lots of them were actually singing about - it would probably explain the staging for some of them.
Can each country not have translations of each song into their own language? I don't want to have to look it all up beforehand, I just want to sit down, enjoy and understand the show!

No, that is the follow-up reason for why Russia was banned. Belarus was banned for breaking EBU rules. Russia was initially banned for invading Ukraine.

>>In 2021, Belarussian broadcaster BTRC was expelled from the EBU and therefore Eurovision due to breaking the EBU's press freedom rules.

The EBU banned Russia the following year, just one day after it invaded Ukraine, stating: "In light of the unprecedented crisis in Ukraine, the inclusion of a Russian entry in this year's Contest would bring the competition into disrepute."In the years since, the EBU's reasoning for barring Russia's broadcaster from participating in Eurovision appears to have since shifted away from the ongoing war.

"Russian broadcasters themselves were suspended from the EBU due to their persistent breaches of membership obligations and the violation of public service values," Curran said in a February statement.

"The relationship between [Israel's public broadcaster] KAN and the Israeli government is fundamentally different to the relationship that exists between those Russian members and the state, with the Israeli government in recent years threatening to close down the broadcaster," he continued.<<

Why hasn't Israel been banned from the 2024 Eurovision Song Contest like Russia was in 2022? - ABC News

@RedToothBrush has several threads on Eurovision starting at the beginning of the contest yesterday.
I can’t quite remember which one of them but I think in thread 2 you can see which performances MNs preferred.
Quite a lot of people posted their favourites so that may give you an idea.

They used to have that as an option - subtitles with the translations. At least on the semi finals, was it when it was on BBC3? It made it so much better.

Wasn't going to win. Probably wasn't going to do as well as expected. Technically his vocals weren't great so would have bombed with the jury. I absolutely loved the song and it was my fav. But probably would have been 7th to 9th.

I always have subtitles on because my hearing is bad and the standard subtitles do include translated lyrics.

Just listened to it, and it's good by Eurovision standards. Maybe a 7 out of 10.

Thought the Swiss one was a deserved winner as the whole production was eye catching. The song had so many layers to it. Wouldn't listen to it again though.

Truth be told none of these songs ever become big hits. They are heard on the night and that's it.

Katrina and the Waves (love shine a light) is the last Eurovision entry I'd listen to again. I'm not aware of any good one since then. Going further back ABBA is the big one.

ABBA really are a rarity in that they have embraced the competition. It's never tarnished them. The like of Celine Dion has never mentioned it again.

I really liked how Nemo's outfit was an inversion of Celine Dion's - formal skirt, poufy top.

The Code was a worthy winner, though I'd have been happy with Croatia or France too.

Re: Russia, the picture is definitely complicated by the fact that their artists the past few years have definitely skirted the line with their own government. Little Big had to flee the country after the invasion of Ukraine, and the Russian Woman song entry from 2021 was a protest song against the repeal of domestic violence as a criminal offence.

Personally I can't see the justification for disallowing October Rain to stand as it did when Jurmala was allowed to enter 1944.

Both Azerbaijan and Israel shouldn't be allowed. What's the point of barring Russia and not these two?

Oh no, I wish I thought to look. Ah well, next year. Thanks for the tip.

The Israeli entry is a grower and better than that acts in place 9/10 so I think in the scheme of it, it placed as deserved. Greece got far more points in the viewer votes than deserved and didn't deserve to be on that side of the board.

Loreen’s Euphoria is a banger though

I've never understood why we don't have a good band enter, Oasis, Blur for instance, instead we get a mediocre tune and filthy toilets, jmho but UK didn't deserve a single point.

I know this is from Wikipedia but this is what I've read in various articles about this matter. Wikipedia just summed it up.

The broadcasters were always a part of the decision, even if that's not what the original EBU statement said. It was always an issue. Israel and their broadcaster have a very different relationship than the Russian broadcasters who are just the government mouthpiece.

Truth be told none of these songs ever become big hits. They are heard on the night and that's it

I loved Kaarija last year. DD and I were huge fans. Following Eurovision he gigged around Europe. We book tickets to his London show, which was initially going to be in a small venue. That sold out so they went for a bigger one which also sold out. I think there may have even been a third upgrade, I forget now.

We also went to see Luke Black who represented Serbia (that one did crap in the final!). He was so not expecting anyone to turn up, his first gig was free! And in a tiny venue. But he's actually a great performer with a lot of songs I like. The place was packed. He's now releasing an album and we're seeing him again this year.

Point being acts do gain fans from Eurovision. Now I'm an oldie 😂but both those gigs were packed full of young people, who sang along to all the songs, not just the Eurovision songs. So they'd clearly listened to a lot more.

Just because these people don't become household names in the UK doesn't mean they don't do well out of it.

Criticism of the current 'war' has nothing to do with antisemitism, or racism. I am sick of any criticism of the current genocide being called out as antisemitism.

Tbh guitar bands have never really been a big hit for Eurovision audiences.

And I love 90s Indie.

It's a wrong match though.

Other artists have been approached but turned down. They are calling Ollys performance as 'career killing' which highlights perceptions. Tbh I don't think this is the case at all for Olly as he's too established.

He just mis judged the staging for this. He can sing. He can't sing and do a routine this active.

https://twitter.com/ivdragicevic/status/1789641448612098533?t=NPBPTWasI8kV4b4CBTiraA&s=19

Heros welcome back in Zagreb for Baby Lasagna who play to a massive crowd.

And this is the green room during Baby Lasagna's performance

https://twitter.com/mazduck/status/1789431022443974883?t=hW4w6mDByArL6-NEiMNbEg&s=19

These are nice things.

Also cos this thread is about to finish, here's an artist who drew all the contestants.

https://twitter.com/Alexrjpaterson/status/1789653423710679514?t=mwXLhv0x9ZbTGZYWRiQ90g&s=19

Doesn't seem to have drawn all the contestants

Yes, similarly I've been to see Mahmood live in London, he's done a good few European tours and has been doing great. As I mentioned earlier, Rosa Linn (non winner) and Duncan Laurence's (winner) songs were massive internationally. And Maneskin, again, have become huge - their winning song was not only a guitar band song but completely sung in Italian - yet it captured people's imaginations and they've gone on to be big worldwide.

"These songs don't last" and "there hasn't been a good song since Katrina and the Waves" sound like things people who don't really like or engage with Eurovision would say, so it is perplexing that they waste their time on it if they can't find one song out of a thousand or so over 26 years. I think cricket is boring as fuck so I don't waste a minute of my year on it, but fair enough for people who do, and I appreciate there is some merit and skill involved.

That has made my day 😁

Oasis or Blur?? It's a killer for nearly everyone. Of course they weren't interested. Should we have had The Beatles? Or what about the Stones? Eurovision is not about pop music in the traditional sense. It's about supporting a country, supporting someone making a statement and organising votes for a cause be that was victim or religion or non binary.

I am getting sick of loud wailing singing and many songs being over produced, over staged and just noise for the sake of it. A few last night were better noise.

Am yourselves: could Adele have won this? One of the biggest musical artists in the world. Probably still would get null points. I would love to see someone simply dressed under a single spotlight. It would be bliss.