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Eurovision Malmö 3

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RedToothBrush · 11/05/2024 23:01

Let's get a result...

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AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 12/05/2024 10:39

fungipie · 12/05/2024 10:05

One of my sons lives in Switzerland, and he said it was probably political. Switzerland is a neutral country, and this year more than most, the vote was going to go along political lines and be linked to the 'war' in Gaza (genocide more like)- so voting for a politically neutral country made every sense.

Time for this competition to end for good. Or at least to be limited to European countries, and for bans (as for Russia) to be across the board and fair.

I didn't watch btw.

Well said @fungipie

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:40

Coshei · 12/05/2024 10:10

Thanks, finally a message that didn’t consist of nothing but allegations.
To answer your question. I do not think that the votes were bot generated. I do think they they were politically motivated though, in the same way large parts of Europe voted for Ukraine in 2022. I rolled my eyes at it then as well, because it completely defeats the purpose of the (nonsensical but amusing) competition.

I am quite tired of things being labelled antisemitic at a whim. I’m sure that there are many people who are antisemetic, but I hate when the term is used as a bludgeon to shut down people and this has happened quite a lot on this thread.

The booing that seems to have happened in the arena itself is another example. The same happened at other times, i.e. during the Russian performance in 2009. Many people thought that it was (rightly) unacceptable to have the audience boo a performer on stage just because they were representing a county that people had an issue with (Krim invasion). But there was no bit outcry or allegations of Russophobia which is absolutely a thing, just like antisemitism is.

I hope this clarifies things for you.

With respect as a PP said, you did seem to agree with a post that WAS anti-Semitic about bots or fake votes.

But if that was not in fact your intention, I do apologise for calling you that, but assuming that Jewish people are stealing or tricking people is a long held anti-Semitic damaging belief and I don’t think it hurts for anyone to be aware of that.

Kandalama · 12/05/2024 10:40

Livelovebehappy · 12/05/2024 10:37

It’s a shame the Eurovision has been reduced to what it is now. Just third rate singers singing pretty rubbish songs. There’s always been an element of poor song choices, but now it’s dire. Out of all the songs last night there were three which were ‘okay’. The others were just trashy, and gimmicky. The one good thing I personally took away from it was that the Israeli song received a huge amount of votes from the public, which says it all about where the majority stand on the current Israeli/terrorist war.

No it really doesn’t 🤣🤣🤣🤣

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:41

Coshei · 12/05/2024 10:10

Thanks, finally a message that didn’t consist of nothing but allegations.
To answer your question. I do not think that the votes were bot generated. I do think they they were politically motivated though, in the same way large parts of Europe voted for Ukraine in 2022. I rolled my eyes at it then as well, because it completely defeats the purpose of the (nonsensical but amusing) competition.

I am quite tired of things being labelled antisemitic at a whim. I’m sure that there are many people who are antisemetic, but I hate when the term is used as a bludgeon to shut down people and this has happened quite a lot on this thread.

The booing that seems to have happened in the arena itself is another example. The same happened at other times, i.e. during the Russian performance in 2009. Many people thought that it was (rightly) unacceptable to have the audience boo a performer on stage just because they were representing a county that people had an issue with (Krim invasion). But there was no bit outcry or allegations of Russophobia which is absolutely a thing, just like antisemitism is.

I hope this clarifies things for you.

Also “Russiaphobia” is not the same as anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is racism not xenophobia

Shityshitybangbang · 12/05/2024 10:42

I didn’t like the winning song at all. Very disappointed in the winner. Seemed like a nice guy but didn’t do it for me. I really enjoyed Spain, Italy was good too. Ireland was utter rubbish.

JaneJeffer · 12/05/2024 10:43

🙉

Poor Nemo broke his thumb as well as the trophy and the code

EsmaCannonball · 12/05/2024 10:43

I don't think the UK should send Steps. One of the problems the UK has at Eurovision is that we are not very forward-looking. Whoever the fuck it is that decides these things has a tendency to look at what did well at Eurovision in the recent past and, as a consequence, the UK are always behind the zeitgeist. Sam Ryder showed that you just need a strong singer, a bit of stage presence, a memorable song and, above all, a willingness to engage with the whole process.

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:44

AprilDecember · 12/05/2024 10:25

Mollie Mae would probably have put in a worse performance than Mae Muller to be fair..

And it's true, George Michael did the "gay men being promiscuous in a public toilet" thing in a far more clever and entertaining way in the Outside video 25 years ago. Olly missed the mark totally.

Gah sorry my brain is not working - I am post major surgery and on strong painkillers that are making me forgetful.

But maybe we should send Mollie Mae next year 😂

I actually thought when Olly was announced we’d have it in the bag as he is a great performer on a normal day. When I saw him perform with Years and Years, he wasn’t like he was last night he had bags of charisma and great range.

Crikeyalmighty · 12/05/2024 10:45

I think you all use the 'amazing' expression far too easily and ironically Abba won with one of their worst songs.

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:45

AhBiscuits · 12/05/2024 10:28

Did I imagine it or was there boos for UK when they showed them on screen?

Only when zero points were announced. I think they were boos for the result not for the act

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:46

Kandalama · 12/05/2024 10:30

This isn’t a conflict in the Middle East thread

If you want proof then there are plenty of threads on all aspects of the conflict over there.
Lots of proof available and lots of discussions you can have as you seem very interested.

I have already said I’ll step back from it But I’m not the one making unfounded claims 🤷‍♀️

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:48

JemimaTab · 12/05/2024 10:32

Some gay men even find that imagery offensive TBH. And dated. Olly was quite vocal about how he wanted the act to be “the gayest ever” (or something along those lines), but is the grotty toilet scenario really the best way to convey this?

I missed the ‘gayest ever’ comment.

But yes the “Gay men frolicking in a public loo” is actually perhaps a little homophobic? It plays on a damaging stereotype IMO.

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:48

AprilDecember · 12/05/2024 10:36

Mollie Mae is from Love Island! Last year's UK entry was called Mae Muller, her aunt is a famous music video director.

Unless you mean Molly Smitten Downes who was the UK entry in 2014 I guess.

No I’m just being stupid, I mean Mae Muller. The alliteration has thrown me I think 🤣

Kandalama · 12/05/2024 10:49

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:46

I have already said I’ll step back from it But I’m not the one making unfounded claims 🤷‍♀️

OK, Great. ! Just pointing out threads you may find more appropriate and informative, in case you didn’t know.
( see you over there maybe )

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:50

If anyone has 25 minutes to kill, here’s every winner from 1956 - 2023. It’s only a few seconds of each song but I’ve just watched it and it shows how the quality has tapered off.
Some fab songs I’ve completely forgotten about

All Winners 🥇 of the Eurovision Song Contest (1956-2023)

Here is a recap of all winners of the Eurovision Song Contest, from the start in 1956 to the latest contest in 2023. Please, enjoy!Credit to @svetv and @Euro...

https://youtu.be/9-lPfuMYnqI?si=zrXVfUdhaiLJuuXh

SabreIsMyFave · 12/05/2024 10:50

suicune · 12/05/2024 00:01

All the folk confused about Israel getting so many votes do seem to be quite naive. Social media tends to represent minority opinions rather than majorities. I wasn’t shocked at all, nor was I shocked by the UK giving 12 points.

100% this. ^ Israel's song was pretty good too. The public vote for Israel was high too. As you say, Israel are not as unpopular as some people think.

AprilDecember · 12/05/2024 10:51

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:48

No I’m just being stupid, I mean Mae Muller. The alliteration has thrown me I think 🤣

At least Mollie Mae in a Love Island thong bikini would have fit in with last night's bum cheek bonanza.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/05/2024 10:51

Shityshitybangbang · 12/05/2024 10:42

I didn’t like the winning song at all. Very disappointed in the winner. Seemed like a nice guy but didn’t do it for me. I really enjoyed Spain, Italy was good too. Ireland was utter rubbish.

Yeah. It was a bloody awful song IMO. But it seems some people like it!

Crikeyalmighty · 12/05/2024 10:51

@YaMuvva totally agree

JemimaTab · 12/05/2024 10:52

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:48

I missed the ‘gayest ever’ comment.

But yes the “Gay men frolicking in a public loo” is actually perhaps a little homophobic? It plays on a damaging stereotype IMO.

This is the article I was thinking of.

He says: “I said right in the beginning of this process, I plan to be as gay as possible – and what’s gayer than a locker room?”

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/07/olly-alexander-eurovision-as-gay-as-possible-bambie-thug-nemo/

Olly Alexander plans to make Eurovision performance 'as gay as possible'

Olly Alexander plans to make his Eurovision 2024 performance as "as gay as possible", regardless of what prudes think.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/07/olly-alexander-eurovision-as-gay-as-possible-bambie-thug-nemo/

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:52

JaneJeffer · 12/05/2024 10:43

🙉

Poor Nemo broke his thumb as well as the trophy and the code

Oh Crikey! He was a bit like like an excitable toddler

statsfun · 12/05/2024 10:52

Coshei · 12/05/2024 10:10

Thanks, finally a message that didn’t consist of nothing but allegations.
To answer your question. I do not think that the votes were bot generated. I do think they they were politically motivated though, in the same way large parts of Europe voted for Ukraine in 2022. I rolled my eyes at it then as well, because it completely defeats the purpose of the (nonsensical but amusing) competition.

I am quite tired of things being labelled antisemitic at a whim. I’m sure that there are many people who are antisemetic, but I hate when the term is used as a bludgeon to shut down people and this has happened quite a lot on this thread.

The booing that seems to have happened in the arena itself is another example. The same happened at other times, i.e. during the Russian performance in 2009. Many people thought that it was (rightly) unacceptable to have the audience boo a performer on stage just because they were representing a county that people had an issue with (Krim invasion). But there was no bit outcry or allegations of Russophobia which is absolutely a thing, just like antisemitism is.

I hope this clarifies things for you.

It does - thanks for clarifying.

I think Eurovision voting will always be a bit political, but agree it's a bit eye-rolly. (I voted for a small country who was never going to win, but whose song I liked best!)

I agree that booing competitors for political reasons is poor behaviour regardless of the country. And that the Russian competitor in 2009 also shouldn't have been booed.

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:53

Kandalama · 12/05/2024 10:49

OK, Great. ! Just pointing out threads you may find more appropriate and informative, in case you didn’t know.
( see you over there maybe )

Yes maybe but I’ll stick to the songs on this thread I promise.

Wayching that Diego of all the winners ever I forgot Johnny Logan won with that brilliant song for Ireland. Probably one of my all time favourite winners.

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:54

AprilDecember · 12/05/2024 10:51

At least Mollie Mae in a Love Island thong bikini would have fit in with last night's bum cheek bonanza.

😂😂 Love Island contestants seem to wear considerably more clothing than the average Eurovision act

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 10:56

JemimaTab · 12/05/2024 10:52

This is the article I was thinking of.

He says: “I said right in the beginning of this process, I plan to be as gay as possible – and what’s gayer than a locker room?”

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/07/olly-alexander-eurovision-as-gay-as-possible-bambie-thug-nemo/

What’s gayer than a locker room Confused lots of things, Olly.

If anyone is an IT Crowd fan there’s a brilliant episode where the gang go to see a play in the West End, a ‘gay musical called Gay’ - it’s very funny and it’s satire but that’s basically what Olly did last night.

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