Eurovision Malmö 3

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Let's get a result...

That’s the beauty of everyone having different tastes though.

I thought Switzerland’s song was shite and it didn’t capture the public vote either. But that’s just my opinion it’s not fact

Originally it was juries only, no public vote

There were some excellent acts this year who got low scores. I’m guessing I don’t always have mainstream taste though

Perhaps it was really good song?

oh no, it wasn’t. I saw it.

but somehow the public were swayed I tell thee!

Except you just accused someone who said the Switzerland song was a worthy winner as being ‘steeped in bias’.

I don't understand the public voting system. I don't believe that <no one> in the whole of Europe voted for the U.K.

does anyone know how the votes that go on the board are calculated?

I shouldn't think most people in the audience are even aware of the 100,000 Armenian people cleared from their land a few months ago. They just pick a cause and get righteous. Then get arsey when other people do the same ie the UK Israel vote. Well, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

What baffled me was how Ireland did so well? There was just no part of it that was enjoyable, either visually or musically.

Our entry… meh. It felt a bit grubby and cheap to be honest.

Only saw the first 3, then the U.K. and tuned back in for the results.
Uk song was crap and the staging was too weird, looked like some seedy grotty underground loo - didn’t really understand it and probably didn’t translate in the crowds well (didn’t translate to me at home very well either 🫣) and the half naked blokes sliding all over the place - what was the point of it all?!
Never heard of our entrant, don’t follow Eurovision really though.
Zero points from the public vote, I wasn’t surprised, I wouldn’t have given us any points either!
The winning song I saw at the end, wasn’t bowled over by that one either but had a more catchy tune.
Maybe it was a message in voting neutrally for Switzerland!
Anyway, from the bits I saw I was bored at the beginning but entertained by the results part!

I said at the time that Tory voters are quiet about it.

I think it’s the same with pro-Israel supporters. Because who can be arsed with the hassle of people (like on here) screaming about genocide like a terrorist organisation hasn’t waged war on them

Propaganda is something often employed by both sides in a war. Whoever wins gets to decide which is the truth.

Do you believe every twitter video that comes from Palestine, even though they sometimes use the same actor multiple times for different roles? And can miraculously determine casualties in the thousands in minutes, despite more advanced countries struggling to do this for far lesser numbers?

Knickerless, it's the same scoring system as the jury system per country and then the Rest of The World have one block too. So it doesn't mean no-one voted for Olly, it means he didn't get enough votes in any country to make it into the points.

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Eurovision Ideology Contest. Our opening contestant is from the UK and will be performing a retrospective treatise on the Nietzschean Ubermensch, set to a melody in A-flat minor with radical syncopation. Enjoy!

Literally, my post spelled “depressing”. Nothing else. You have come up with your own colourful and very elaborate interpretation of this one word.
I don’t have to be careful here. You need to be careful, because you are accusing me of pretty horrific things I never said.

It was both iirc - the move to the crazy songs and elaborate staging happened when they moved from the juries to the public vote. Then they reintroduced the juries.

Maybe it does tally with the silent majority. Who knows? I sure as hell didn’t like Switzerland- thought it was boring. Would have preferred Italy tbh.

Wpuodvbe interesting to see who won public vote.

From 1998 till 2008 they switched to televotes only with juries as back up and that was a lot of tactical voting. I remember as early 2000s is when I started watching. You could tell where the 12 points were going before it was even announced.

Most of the success with Years and Years was when they still had the founder members / main songwriters. Once they left and it became an Olly solo vehicle, the success dwindled somewhat.
But I agree that Olly may have lost his way a bit. Just after Sam came second a couple of years ago, Olly was all over the papers saying it was unfair that he (Olly) hadn’t been given a chance to do Eurovision - as if he assumed he’d have done a better job than Sam. Which looks a bit rich now. He seems to have had a real thing about Eurovision for some reason, and it’s obviously not paid off for him.
Perhaps he should concentrate on the acting for a bit.

I would agree with you if I hadn't seen the 40pc stat from Italy. My argument here is statistical, not ideological.

However, I will add that Ireland gave Israel 10 points in the public vote. If you know anything about Ireland you'll know it was unlikely that any significant portion of the population was giving Israel sympathy votes.

It's only Eurovision, it's not worth getting worked up over, but the public vote is sketchy.

We know the Israeli government have spent millions on their YouTubes propaganda ads alone.

They know the Palestinians don’t have the money to counter that propaganda.

Funny how Israel can’t give a number of how many civilians they have killed but can confidently state how many Hamas members they have killed.

There was a decade where they tried televotes only with back up juries, though? That's the eurovision era i am referring to

I only watched the voting, so only saw a snippet of each song, but all the songs were shit (as they always are, every year). Some of them perhaps slightly less shit than the others.

Eurovision is bonkers, it's not a song contest, it's a hyped up spectacle, a big pantomime. And it gets more ridiculous every year - I mean that Irish witch act, fs it was horrible.

I thought all the civilians were Hamas. Perhaps that's how?