Eurovision Malmö 3

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Let's get a result...

So you support a woman who has nothing to do with Netenyahu being bullied and harrassed?

Pathetic and embarrassing

Funny how a 20yo Jewish woman should know better but elsewhere on MN 20yo women are described as children

Which part of it was hate speech?

I quite liked the winning song, there was something a little bondesque about that chorus.

No idea I'm afraid, don't know if they actually release the votes to that extent normally.

But as someone who understands numbers I would be very sceptical of any vote share of that size in any country - especially when there isn't any particular connection between the countries. It's not like Israel and Italy are close neighbours with a massive overlapping population.

Venal society because some of us won’t partake in racism?

OK then

No, I'm saying that contestants in a song competition should not be subjected to bullying behaviour, and whilst I voted based on the songs I liked I can completely understand why others will use their votes as a statement because they take exception to this too.

Now give it a rest, ffs. You'll have to find another bone to gnaw on anyway, because I'm going to bed.

Croatia were my favourites - the Swiss song was OK for me, but I didn’t get why it ran away with the jury vote to such a degree. It was nice to see France do so well, I wasn’t expecting that.
The 0 public vote for the UK is pretty humiliating. But I don’t think it’s necessarily that everyone hated Olly’s act, just that they preferred other acts that made more of an impression. It was pretty underwhelming - the song was very generic, he didn’t sing it well, and the staging just looked a bit grotty and didn’t come across as amazing at all (despite Graham / Rylan insisting that it was).

Yes we know, but how does that prove the Israel votes were bots?!

Well, the European public loved the UK entry didn't they!!. Nil Points, nil, bloody points😞

There's only one thing for it next year...as we've all seen, you can enter, (and win), as many times as you like, (Johnny Logan, Loreen), so surely our only hope of redemption is to persuade, (or beg), Sam Ryder to give it another go?? Europe loves him!

I said no such thing.
I said “depressing”, and look at your wild and
ott interpretation of it. This is seriously unhinged so maybe take a step back.

I really wanted Croatia to win but I'm not too unhappy with Switzerland. It would have been highly problematic for organising if Israel had won. I think their song was pretty mediocre and if it had been entered by a country like Slovenia it wouldn't have got many votes at all.

It's fairly easy to see that with up to 20 votes per person with 25 to vote for that everyone could vote for their favourite few and these will be spread across all the contestants as people have different favourites and then if the majority of people give Israel a sympathy vote because they feel sorry for the performer then Israel comes out as the winner. No need for bots or conspiracies.

@AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen and that is totally my point- the contest is no longer about songs- I personally thought they were all dire

Yeah, Graham kept trying to insist Olly was brilliant when it was actually out of tune by 1000 miles and crap.

Unless people are speaking out against hate and racism. I know people sick of bullying towards Israel who voted For them. I did but I did think she was the best - Croatia a close second. Gutted for Baby Lasagna

Given the Israeli government spent MILLIONS on their Youtube propaganda trying to justify their genocide, I don’t think it’s unthinkable they would spend money on televotes.

Perhaps people don’t equate supporting a 20yo girl with supporting Netenyahu

Perhaps they’re also sick of the sneery comments

I thought the same. Delighted the song won.

To those that want to remove the jury vote, are you forgetting that once upon a time it was only public voting and everyone was whining and moaning about how political and unfair the system was?! Greece voting for Cyprus, Cyprus voting for Greece and Eastern Europe voting among themselves.

There is a reason Juries were introduced and that's to battle the politics and to try and even the field. You might have disliked the Swiss song but Nemo's performance was amazing and I can see why juries rated it high.

You'd never guess from the UK's piss poor record at Eurovision that five out of the top ten best selling music artists of all time are from the UK 😂
Olly has already sold more music than any of the other acts ever will (flummoxed that he even agreed to do Eurovision, and the weird direction he's taken 😕 he did some brilliant tunes as Years and Years, he should've stuck with them. He seems to just be apeing Sam Smith now. Bizarre).

There was no particular connection between Ukraine and all of the countries that awarded them the highest in public votes either was there?

I think a lot of people voted out of sympathy and to show support that year, even ones that didn't usually bother voting.

It was the other way around. It was a jury vote only for decades and then they brought the public vote in.

Well it wasn’t a reason for Ukraine to not win in 2022

Thank you. It’s pretty insane really.