MAFS Australia (NO SPOILERS) Thread 2!

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New thread to continue discussing MAFSAUS

This is at UK pace so NO SPOILERS please!

(There are spoiler threads available to discuss everything happening outside of MAFS and episodes that haven’t been aired in the UK yet).

burnoutbabe

"Collins is right about needing advice.

They are "the experts" and say he is a complete beginner. But yet offer no advice at all. Bar having a go at him."

So true. John was ridiculous arguing with him. Elongating the whole process in front of the whole group. Very stupid.

I don’t think you are wrong.

I think Tori is having a very lucky escape that Jack won’t sleep with her. I suspect he’s a man with a shaky grasp of the concept of consent, and that would disregard all her boundaries.

There is a really interesting podcast video out there with Collins talking about his time on the show. No spoilers in it - we’ve seen everything he talks about. It made me think very differently about him; I really don’t think he is autistic. I still think he would have made a tricky husband for anyone though. Have a look for it if you’re interested.

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If she just backed off a bit and had some fun instead of wanting intense conversation all the time she might have more luck.

Can you link to it please,I'd like to take a listen ? 😊

If you watch the you tube post MAFS pod cast he did, he is nothing like how he is in the show. Comes across very articulate with great self awareness. Admits he looked like a knob on the show and whilst some things are in the edit, freely admits to saying weird things and freaking out a bit. But also discusses just how bereaved and struggling Natalie was in the whole process. She shouldn’t have been there in the start, they should have said let’s try next year.

Yep, her grief was clearly overwhelming. And no groom should have been expected to become her emotional support at that point.

I think Lucinda has already moderated her natural self to an extent. I don’t think she should have to minimise herself any more. If the person she is isn’t what Tim wants, then he needs to be upfront and leave.

FWIW I think she wavers between wanting to help him, because she actually likes the person he is (they make each other laugh a lot, that’s obvious), and realising she’s not getting much for herself, when she snaps a bit, like over the top. It might be that she has made the decision that this is a time limited ‘experiment’ and if it works, fun, and if it doesn’t, then move on. But I hope it doesn’t crush her.

Thanks!

Jack is really starting to annoy me.
He talks about being an alpha and how amazing he is in bed, but he's just a nasty wannabe. I hope Tori sees through him and his negging ("Prove to me why you're the hottest" in the photo ranking task) before she gets hurt, but she seems to be in it to 'win' so I guess will hang on, getting more and more diminished until she is comletely broken. I hope she doesn't have sex with him as would think he would completely ignore any of her boundaries.

Wow,they did a good job at stitching Collins up with editing!! 😱

I think Lucinda shouldn't have gone to bed topless after the intimacy tasks- kind of proved that if Tim makes any effort she will get the bit between her teeth and push for more.

Not saying she meant any harm but that's uncomfortable for a man or woman.

If he's decidedly not attracted to her he needs to say so and leave but in the meantime boundary pushing is not ok. Like it or not there is a difference in most societies between male and female toplessness.

She'd be great for the right man but doesn't give Tim chance to meet her in the middle. Starting on about his beautiful soul after the eye contact task. I don't think she's unaware of this but doesn't always realise in time. Tim should organise a non sexual, non spiritual evening to get to know each other on his terms. Maybe he has and it's not shown.

Did anyone else notice how he looked at Alessandra though??

The Collins interview!! My goodness! No spoilers, just his side of the story. Even if the truth is somewhere in the middle of that and what we've seen, he's been put in an unenviable position.

I’ve seen that interview and thought he came across very well, and was able to show a great deal of empathy for Nat. He seemed to take it all with very good grace.

I’m surprised that Collins has less than 6,000 followers on Instagram.

Jack has oddly small nipples.

I think he'll dangle the prospect of sex over Tori for a while longer as part of his strategy to subdue her.

Thank you for voicing what I thought last night when I saw them 🤢🤣

Oh I agree, he's doing a proper number on her, where on earth is the feisty woman we saw at the beginning?!

I'm glad it's not just me!

I don’t think Tom is showing much sign of meeting Lucinda in the middle though. She obviously wanted someone a lot like her and has more or less the total opposite. She is the one who is compromising more - he has moved very little in her direction. She’s not perfect at getting it right but I think she’s sitting on herself hard to behave differently. The gulf between their styles means that’s still too much for him, but he has basically done nothing.

I think Lucinda will lose patience with Tim as he is just not going to compromise in any way. He has said a few things that she has found quite hurtful whereas she is always very understanding. The comment about ‘You’ve got boobs too, mate’ made me laugh though!

First time poster but I think he did come across the same. He sounded more articulate because he was in control of the narrative. How many times did he say homesickness and grief?! It sounds like a prepared performance of damage limitation and I think the podcast presenters felt the same reading their body language.

I'd like to hear Natalie's honest account.

Agree with pp who said Jack probs likes to choke women during sex. And that he and Jayden have a very loose grasp of the concept of consent.

Imagine those two plus alcohol and girls. Like one of those footballer rape cases.

I wonder if there is some drugs in the mix too. Jack and Jayden are the sort to use cocaine. And maybe also steroids. ("roid rage")

I’m a bit behind but I’ve just watched Ep 9 and Collins is clearly super immature but I do feel for him because Natalie was so OTT on the wedding day and just seemed like a completely different person when she was sitting on the couch in the commitment ceremony not saying much and crying. I know she’s grieving so I feel bad saying thst but it’s honestly like watching two different people

It's a pity who Lucinda was partnered with. She brings out the best in everyone. Could have had a great relationship with a man who fancied her.

Lauren is very funny, but hard work. Are there any decent guys in there this year? Johnno is probably the best.

When we see Collins; "Wow! What a Gay"