The Traitors S2 Thread 4 "you wee shit"

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Carry On Faithfuls

Sorry to be dim but can someone explain the dungeon thing again? Why is it considered to have been such a mistake on the traitors part?

It was funny when Harry made that comment about "look who's still here", but I would still say that I think Paul was more proactive to date whereas Harry has just walked into the open opportunities. I think banishing Miles was the first influential thing Harry has done, and of course more this evening.

Given all the focus and chat about Paul, I'm not trying to recall if there what pointers towards Harry there have been which someone like Jaz or Evie might piece together.

I'm also now trying to think forward... At some point Andrew and Harry will have it out, but they'd do well to try and murder and banish more others in the meantime. The problem is under pressure, it's a case of trusting each other until one of them blinks. And both want to be first to pull the rug from under the other.

I think they'd do best to murder the quiet ones, because the gobby ones will probably take each other out.

YES! I said that as I was watching it. When Claudia asked if anyone had anything to say why didn’t he say it then so Diane could have been smiling away inside her box listening to it 🤣 It would have confirmed he was a faithful because under no circumstances would you kill or allow anyone else to kill your own mum surely! But I think because they’d made that agreement from the start he thought he better stick to it

We also haven’t ever really seen how Harry reacts when the finger is pointed at him because it almost never is. I feel like he would wobble pretty easily, whereas Paul managed to continually waft away all the accusations until they became too much

Such a good episode, tonight and last night have surpassed my expectations. I hoped it would be as gripping as S1 but wasn’t sure it could be but wow.

I so wish I’d completed the application I started to be on this series!

I was so annoyed when they were toasting Harry. Why is it so hard to give credit where ut is due? Jazz put his neck on the line from the beginning with his suspicions about Paul. He was also right about the two blondes holding back which they said was deflecting and made his behaviour look shifty. Nope, you are both just happy coasting.

We thought there must have been quite a hefty editing chop before the vote, as it really seemed Jaz was doomed but then more people went for Paul.

Poor Andrew really didn’t want the Traitor role! Was he guaranteed to be killed if he didn’t accept? It wasn’t the ultimatum that Kieran got in S1 and a lot can change in terms of who they need to bump off in 24 hours.

It wasn’t guaranteed but I think it was a fair assumption on his part

If there's even 1 traitor in the group at the very end then they take the whole lot themselves (or split it amongst how many traitors are left) Faithfuls leave with nothing.

The only way the faithfuls can take a share of the money is by there being no traitors left at the very end.

Managed to binge watch every UK episode in the last few days, I was the last person to find out about this show!

Now I'm caught up I'm happy to finally join you on here!

So happy he’s gone

It will be very interesting to see who fills the void now he's gone.

The very fact that we are all cheering that Paul has gone, just goes to show what a great part he played.

Harry getting very cocky now, that might be his undoing.

Yes. I think he might have some sort of performing arts background. He's also tried stand up (according to his bio on the Traitors site) and has been on Deal or No Deal.
Definitely wants to be a Personality.

It short because it lead to Meg being murdered who was very a strange choice to murder,

They had to chose 4 people, of those 4 one had to be murdered, and one recieved a shield based on a vote. He was convinced that people liked him enough that he would be voted to receive the shield leaving them to get Meg or ash banished and murder andrew. Imo this was arrogant and poorly thought out just to pin it on ash.

However how it played out was very risky because they picked Andrew who's popularity was under estimated, and Meg who people very strongly thought was a traitor. It was all pinned on the conviction Paul was most popular

He was wrong and wasn't given the shield and I don't think had predicted that would happen, and that Andrew would be more popular than him. The second it happened it ruined the plan

This lead to the situation where the only person in the dungeon that was able to be murdered was Meg ( can't murder a traitor), and pretty much every way you played it was rubbish.

Option 1
You let met meg get banished at the round table. There's no murder that night and it's clear paul and ash are traitors as people would guess that they couldn't murder because they were only two people to be shieldless aren't murderable

Option 2
You let them banish ash. However then you have to murder Meg. Everyone at the round table know that the murder choice is either Meg or Paul.

Meg had lots of suspicion around her and it made no logical sense to murder her. She would have likely been banished the next day, and traditionally you get shifty people banished and well liked people murdered. There was lots of talk that Paul was very likely to be murdered because his personality fit the profile and he had fed into that narrative of saying that he should he murdered the previous nights, it was a miracle he was making it till morning. It would make little sense to actively bypass Paul and waste a murder on Meg.

So when she was murdered, it very much hinted to the fact that she had to be murdered because she was the only option/ their hand has been forced.

Fantastic episode, only slightly marred by it being obvious the round table was so heavily edited to make us think it was split 50/50 between Jaz and Paul as to who might go when the vote showed it was always going to be Paul. I am now team Evie as I think she's more astute than is being shown. She revealed on Twitter the night Miles got banished that she did hear Diane Tell Paul that it was Miles but lied at the round table when Paul brought it up because she didn't trust him.

Also, is it just me or does Mollie bear a striking resemblance to actress Emile de Ravin.

https://www.tvfanatic.com/2012/02/abc-casting-scoops-emilie-de-ravin-to-americana-darius-campbell/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-traitors-contestant-mollie-pearce-31792834

Thank you fir the new thread. Love the title

Harry needs to ensure he's not seen as Paul 2.0. He was very specific during the round table about the prison scenario and some people may now start wondering how he knows some of the details spoke about, which was picked up during the Traitors follow-on show on BBC2. Also needs to revert to his more nice guy Faithful persona rather than President. 🌹

What an amazing episode. So pleased to see Paul brought down. Harry played a blinder but I wonder if he slightly overplayed it. He's seeming too cocky and confident which is a big shift from the sweet persona that he was trying to project before.
I really like Zach. Respect to him for happily telling Paul to his face that he was voting for him. He was really clear but somehow managed to do it in a way that it wasn't at all angry or personal. Just factual and honest with no malice.

Really loved how the women stepped up yesterday eventually. It was a man's game until now. I hope they recruit a female traitor but I think Harry prefers it to be a boys' club.

Yes apart from Diane the women have had little air time.

I wonder, regards Harry's immense detail of the dungeon, how much it had been discussed since and not shown to us. A good few of them said they were suspicious of Paul and that the dugeon thing didn't make sense. So maybe other people had surmised the detail and so Harry just looks like he regurgitated it at the round table.

Though then again, when Miles went everyone was euphoric and marveling at Paul then the next day banished him. So Harry might not be above suspicion in the morning when it's a bit calmer.

I do wonder how their days actual play out. It seems

• breakfast
• mission
• dinner
• round table.

But yesterday there was no dinner (and Claudia atually said after the mission 'back for a cup of tea and the the round table.'

So there is plenty of time for unseen discussion that must have occured between Paul back slapping to Paul Banishment. Except for with Ross of course.

Other than that the turn around on Paul for some players appears very quick, and now they are saying they always had suspicions. So the editing could also lead you to think Paul had the hold some how, like a bully in school might, over everyone. It was better to like him and make him the popular one than be on his bad side. Don't discuss Paul negatively for fear itll get back to him.Once it was obvious others felt the same it became safe to speak against him with more than mentioning his name while summaring in general.