THE RECKONING - bbc 1 mon 9th - 9pm and Tue - TV PACE NO SPOILERS

[Blondeshavemorefun]

There will be four episodes in total, with the second airing at 9pm on Tuesday, October 10.

The third and fourth episodes are likely to air on the following Monday and Tuesday.

The Reckoning stars Steve Coogan as Savile and has spent a long time in production, with a planned release in 2022 reportedly being delayed due to the death of Queen Elizabeth II.

It will trace the life of Savile from a working-class background to one of the biggest stars in television and will also focus on his years of sexual abuse and the impact he had on his victims.

Saville (https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23729749.bbc-reveal-first-official-image-steve-coogan-jimmy-savile/)
died in October 2011 aged 84 having never been brought to justice for his crimes.

By not talking about it, you don’t get to the nub of that and if you don’t look at it you’re destined for those things to happen again.

The drama answers the question: how did he get away with it?

"The drama answers that question which is a very important one."
The series will also feature interviews with four of Savile's victims.

I know exactly what you mean @Dumbocracy

Ah interesting read @nettie434

Thanks

Yes the real clips were weird to watch

I think the real clips are where he was at a public event - so all the razzmatazz, smoke and mirrors, fast paced and hectic distraction behaviours to keep his distance from people - a whirl wind passing through.

The Coogan version is him close up and under scrutiny especially with the writer - you get to see the slippery manipulation and this is all in micro expressions and his frustrating twisting of words - maybe even deliberate teasing. It’s were he gets nasty and the mask slips.

Your reaction shows how effective his zany, Mr Fun, persona was IRL.

That makes sense @Gloriously

The other thing I've been thinking about is his calling people Dr Wordsmith, Mr Surgeon, whatever, maybe even The Duchess. I think it was possibly about pretend deference but also so he doesn't need to remember any names and, again, keeping that distance that was so necessary to him.

I watched three and four together and felt dirty afterwards, like I wanted to take a shower.

The biggest worry is that there were people, in the BEEB and elsewhere, who knew what he was but sat on their hands, because he was bringing them in good money. It is shocking that they were willing to turn a blind eye in order to ensure their coffers were filled.

Wonder how bbc feel now

They are showing this

Is that to say they were wrong to over look all the complaints

Maybe that's why they do Children in Need.

I'd be interested to know which year Dan Davies , who was writing Savile's biography , came close to the truth ? Savile stopped giving him interviews [ep3] , maybe Davies reported his suspicions at the time but hit brick walls .

Yes he was asking god questions and making it obvious about the complaints and jimmy kept shooing away or ignoring questions

It was interesting when he brought up Savile saying "I promised I wouldn't do that shit anymore." and when he was asked what shit the next time he denied saying it. A moment of almost letting it all out, or a moment of weakness as he would have seen it.

I remember him being similar with Louis Theroux although less obviously pissed off. There was no warmth though, you could almost see the real Savile but not quite.

Soooooo, channel 4 / endemol didn't give BBC/ itv studios the rights to show jimlls appearance on celebrity big brother in 2006

Glad it's finished

Seemed to really show how vile he was in last nights and tonight

I didn't know all his gravestone etx got taken away

Good

Small thing but sure meant a lot to his victims

He was slimey to the nurses

I can do what I like etx

Now you could use phone and record

Obv Years ago not that option

I'm not sure Dan Davies ever did really get to say the stuff he said on this, nor that Savile ever got so close as to hinting.
This counts as wish fulfilment on the part of so many

Yes I agree. The scenes with him and Saville seem convenient and overly tidy and neat.

I needed a stiff gin to get through episode 4.
He absolutely groomed those around him.
Im glad that some of his victims had their say.

www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/the-reckoning-dan-davies-interview/amp

Interview with Dan Davies, seems a lot of the stuff was for effect. It felt like it was drawing on Theroux's interviews at times.

Dan Davies' book was published in 2014 and was based upon many more years of interviews than Louis Theroux's documentaries. I wonder how much each of them knew about each other's work and if they ever thought about collaborating. I think Savile consciously chose to volunteer in Leeds General Infirmary, Stoke Mandeville, the remand home and Broadmoor because their remit was so different. It was very unlikely that anyone working in one place would have any contact with someone at another so it was even less likely that rumours and suspicions could be shared.

I'm glad I watched it because I learned a lot but it's frightening to think how much was 'in plain sight'. I hope the people who were abused and their families feel that they were able to have a voice.

Let’s face it people who have whistle blown in the past have not been treated well.
I know of a nurse ( not related to the JS saga) but to another doctor who went on to murder people, she blew the whistle on him. Guess who lost their job at the hospital? Clue- not the murderer.
That was the culture people had to work in.
Many of Saville’s victims did report him. It Seams to have fallen on deaf ears.
He had West Yorkshire police on his pocket. I’m sure it was the chief Constable who used to go to Saville’s flat in Leeds every Friday for, well who knows what they were doing.

Crossing the streams with The Long Shadow. Savile was at one point questioned in the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/jimmy-savilles-chilling-link-yorkshire-31144707

The above post is Re: West Yorkshire Police.

The whole milieu is written about in the Red Riding Quartet of novels by David Peace

I was looking for a comment he made about Savile saying one day someone would write a book on him.

But I just found this reference Savile made about meeting Myra Hindley and Ian Brady in Manchester instead

https://www.heraldscotland.com/life_style/arts_ents/13175244.dan-davies-plain-sight---life-lies-jimmy-savile-quercus/

@nettie434 sorry I meant The Reckoning felt it was drawing on the Theroux interactions, not that the book was.

@OneFrenchEgg Ah! Yes, I understand now. My fault for not realising that. It's so striking that although Theroux and Davies both thought Savile was 'weird', they did not realise the extent of his crimes. For those who had personal experience, Savile's own enforcers and the police, as @Daffodilwoman says, made sure that complaints went nowhere.

@nettie434 it is isn't it, I wonder how much they just thought he was unusual and unpleasant and how much they knew of the rumours. It's all very dark and unpleasant.