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lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 04/10/2023 12:51

I think an additional problem in Brad and Shona partnership (apart from everything else) is that she quite clearly stated last night that she loved being dominated by Brad.
I know that there are those kind of relationships that exist in real life, and often it's not just sexual domination. However these are normally entered into with both parties in an established relationship consciously - and they already know and trust each other.
Their relationship contains none of these foundations... she is basically just saying 'I give you permission to do exactly as you please' under the veil of him being 'the dominant one' .. whereas he will absolutely abuse that as we have already seen.

JaneJeffer · 04/10/2023 12:53

I think an additional problem in Brad and Shona partnership (apart from everything else) is that she quite clearly stated last night that she loved being dominated by Brad.
Yeah what the fuck is wrong with her that makes her want to be treated like that? She needs help.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 04/10/2023 14:01

Catching up - oh my Lord, Brad 🙄 loved watching everyone's faces around the table when he was pontificating. Horrible to see how he's treating Shona.

I seem to be the only one on the thread that doesn't find Thomas attractive. He looks exactly like a work colleague of mine. Even sounds like him 😂

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 04/10/2023 14:11

Shona really doesn’t help herself but Brad is awful. This is how he is in public, on film. I imagine on your own with him it 100 times worse.

Redpaisley · 04/10/2023 14:14

JaneJeffer · 04/10/2023 10:49

I think that in real life Laura would never mix with people like Luke and Jay (and definitely not Arthur) so it didn't even occur to her to chat to them but now she's been called out on it and has gone on the defensive instead of realising yeah maybe I am a bit of a snob with preconceived ideas.

I am confused about whether Ella has had a sexual relationship since transition because of the "maybe when I'm 60" remark which contradicts what the ixpirts said about using sex to feel accepted.

Georges yoga quip was very funny.

Ros and Thomas are never going to work.

But even if Laura is snob, it was not ok for Luke to bad mouth her behind her back to other couples.

I agree she does come across a little high headed especially in the first few episodes.

catskittens · 04/10/2023 14:16

BatshitCrazyWoman · 04/10/2023 14:01

Catching up - oh my Lord, Brad 🙄 loved watching everyone's faces around the table when he was pontificating. Horrible to see how he's treating Shona.

I seem to be the only one on the thread that doesn't find Thomas attractive. He looks exactly like a work colleague of mine. Even sounds like him 😂

i dont find Thomas attractive either i find him a bit "wet" tbh

cant stand Laura i dislike everything about her imo she really thinks she is something and i find her very boring

JaneJeffer · 04/10/2023 14:18

But even if Laura is snob, it was not ok for Luke to bad mouth her behind her back to other couples.
It's human nature. Everyone does it.

JaneJeffer · 04/10/2023 14:20

If I was Ros I would lie on the sofa and make Thomas read to me (I'm probably abusive innit)

Comedycook · 04/10/2023 14:21

I'm another who doesn't find Thomas attractive....I'm surprised so many posters on here do...but I've never gone for posh blokes😂

I'm warming to George...he's a bit of a dick but in a refreshingly honest way.

WallaceinAnderland · 04/10/2023 14:31

Georges is definitely a project but Peggy doesn't seem to mind. I think she will struggle when Georges is back in his own environment or with his friends as he will revert to his previous immature behaviour.

catskittens · 04/10/2023 14:50

WallaceinAnderland · 04/10/2023 14:31

Georges is definitely a project but Peggy doesn't seem to mind. I think she will struggle when Georges is back in his own environment or with his friends as he will revert to his previous immature behaviour.

agree george on the first episode was a right idiot he now seems to have had a personality transplant

im guessing he is like a few men an idiot around his friends with the same humour

JaneJeffer · 04/10/2023 14:53

Georges was just following the booby script but the latest one seems to have been lost in the post.

Italiangreyhound · 04/10/2023 14:58

Thank you Virgo1958.

I don't think Luke and Jay can complain of they have not approached Laura yet either!

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 04/10/2023 15:07

Brad is one hoor o’ an angry man. His little cheek bollocks were popping out with every scowl. And I noticed he said he’d found love within Shona - not with her.

Aye he has found love within her. That and obedience and subservience.

And she is flailing about in Her love bubble cage. Unable to see that he will have her bubbling in days.

Luke was right to call him out on the over share stuff and he twisted it round to him being ‘wysiwyg’ and ‘telling his truth’. Fuck all with being an ungentlemanly gobshite.

And aye Brad likes dominance. No shitty sherlocky. Dominance aye. I also think he has a pen chance for word salad tae.

Georges tickled me with the yoga comment.

I’ve been working too much, have rip van winkled sleep wise and missed Porsch and Terrance’s about turn. Not buying that I’m afraid. All pish.

Roz turning stuff round on Thomas is getting on my lurks.

And Ella.

Ella is doing my swede in. For someone who has nipped and tucked and gone for such an extravagantly sexual looking shell to match what they were truly born as, they aren’t half intent on reminding us that they is trans and weren’t made this way initially.

The transwomen I know always wanted to be women. They don’t scream it. Their breasts are kept in the barracks and they live their life in the way the felt they must. They don’t announce who they are/were/whatever. They just are.

And I don’t get that from ellagenda. I feel if Ella dropped the agenda and just ‘was’, the Nathaniel could connect.

Never. Gonna. Happen.

It is all about the fanciful. The fake. The fairy tale.

To be fair, my acquaintances are solid Hambles.

Ella is flounce and flap barbie.

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 04/10/2023 15:16

Penchant- not pen chance. Autocarrot done me wrong.

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RobynRB · 04/10/2023 15:30

Watching Ella desperately begging for confirmation that Nathaniel fancies her is painful. It's almost like she'd rather he lied if it meant she got the answer she wanted. I mean okay, anyone in that situation would want to hear good things, but to just keep saying 'tell me you fancy me' over and over trying to bludgeon the other person into submission is not the right way to go about it. Mind you I can't help thinking Nathaniel feels he's been put in a difficult position, trying to let down someone easily he clearly doesn't fancy without attracting the rage of the 'community'...

Blinkinbloodyhayfever · 04/10/2023 15:33

I feel if Ella dropped the agenda and just ‘was’, the Nathaniel could connect. agree, she is too much "it's all about Ella" and is offended when Nathaniel, who is very sweet, expresses something she hasn't bothered to notice before. The performance screams fake, and comes across as more drag than trans.

RobynRB · 04/10/2023 15:34

determinedtomakethiswork · 03/10/2023 23:34

The thing is, just because people don't get on it doesn't mean that they're not genuine.

I absolutely love Paul. I think he's the best one on the show.

Absolutely, you could say Roz and whatshisname are quite genuine, because they aren't pretending to the rest of the group that everything is okay when it's not.

RobynRB · 04/10/2023 15:35

Blinkinbloodyhayfever · 04/10/2023 15:33

I feel if Ella dropped the agenda and just ‘was’, the Nathaniel could connect. agree, she is too much "it's all about Ella" and is offended when Nathaniel, who is very sweet, expresses something she hasn't bothered to notice before. The performance screams fake, and comes across as more drag than trans.

Exactly. She's gone to all the trouble of having surgery yet she still acts like a man 'pretending' to be a woman.

Comedycook · 04/10/2023 15:42

Paul and Tasha seem so young . It's very much a "first love" type thing which is nice but not always long lasting. He looks like an overexcited 18 year old who can't believe he's finally having sex. She seems thrilled that she has finally met someone who is nice to her.

1984Winston · 04/10/2023 15:43

I don't get the Thomas attraction either, he's not for me. With Luke bad mouthing Laura I have to say at least he's saying it to her face, same with Brad, he said the same thing to his face as he did behind his back so he seems honest at least. Terrace and Porsha just want longer on screen so they have made an agreement I reckon. Love Tasha and Paul but cannot wait until she takes those braids out!

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 04/10/2023 15:47

Those braids look as though they would be almost sore.

I like that Luke isn’t some two faced wannabe.

There is a honk of truth to what he is saying and I think those that are being called out doth protest too much.

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squareyedannie · 04/10/2023 15:48

I don't think Ella is ready for a happy ever after yet as she seems to have way too many issues to address before taking on someone else.

hamstersarse · 04/10/2023 16:04

I thought Ella's 'trans lives matter' hair slide was.......fine......but something felt weird about it when Nathanial was declaring that he wants to go deep and get to know her inside and all that bollocks, while she is just sitting there with an identi-kit 'trans identity' slogans and all; an off the shelf identity which someone else has created and she has just followed along with. She hasn't a clue what he is on about, she's just followed a script that she didn't think up herself - she hasn't a clue what her 'true self' is because she has never had to think about it, she's just caught up in a political movement (possibly even a victim of). I found it a bit sad. Her face was utter bewilderment about what on earth he was on about.

StephanieSuperpowers · 04/10/2023 16:17

It just seems like Ella hasn't really developed much personality or interest beyond hyper sexualised lady. Now, I doubt Nate is really a ball of intellectual fire, but he clearly wants something different to what Ella can offer at the moment. It may change, in time and Ella may find something other than trying to be sexually desired as an interest.

Personally, the choice of the Liz Hurley knock off dress was fascinating to me, since Liz Hurley's career is largely based on her appearance and I don't think, other than calling people who aren't celebrities "civilians", she's ever said a word of note in public.