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[SheldonesqueTheBstard]

A no spoiler tv pace thread please.

A pestilence of mammoth proportions in the shape of toothy pubic lice for those who escape from the twat field and may any unsocked feet sweat enough to give you bulbous blisters….

Waiting for clips - only info is ‘coming soon’….

Little linky to the new thread mes amis.

Just in case there is a little flurry.

not a link for speedos

I will apologise in advance for my shameful language - Tis merely quoting papa peggy 😇

He speaks for us all, him and Paul's Mum, who between them responded exactly as I would if confronted by this appalling news.

He does indeed.

He was more polite than I would have been.

I might have started with a fairly benign ‘yer arse’ before launching but I would have been a proper swearymary quite swiftly.

And I wouldn’t even need wood panelling to add gravitas.

Not sure if it's about looks as much as personality type.

I'm a quiet soul. I'm happy to sit in the garden, watch the wind in the trees and the birds larking about overhead. Then, if I see something interesting, or a thought comes to me, I'll mention it to anyone willing to listen.

I'm guessing that this would bore people like Ella, Thomas (from last year) and Nikita (from the year before) absolutely rigid. And I'd probably find their efforts to fill the space and avoid being bored completely overwhelming and exhausting. And they also manage to speak a lot, but say very little.

So my guess is that Nathaniel is a bit more towards my end of things where he's not scared of a bit of quiet, wants to hear a bit more of the real Ella that lies beneath the brash exterior.

Opposites can attract where the more outgoing one can do most of public speaking and it can suit both parties but loud vulgarity suits nobody.

I find men with George's are crude and boring because they actually have nothing to say and no personality.

Also where we're georges parents ? Did they swerve it because they know he's a tit ?

I have fought so hard to avoid this series - but resistance is futile. Count me in.

When I lived in London there was loads of those type of tossers all suited and booted and perving on women. Happy Hour by The Housemartins sums them up perfectly.

@Nogaxeh

I wouldn’t want to be around someone who was like Ella for long.

It is too loud for me and even if Ella was different in private, the indoors voice would have to be outside voice too.

Someone (sorry - can’t remember who and I’m probably misquoting) made a stonking point in that Ella is acting like a dragqueenesque parody of a woman when she could have chosen to be more like her mam or nan - who seem to be far better (?) role models.

Their choice obviously and I’m sure they couldn’t give a tuppence ha’penny for my opinion. For me, that kind of behaviour and mannerisms seem like a bit of a pisstake and I find it hard to embrace someone who is doing that to a sex they believe they should be.

The transwomen I have met don’t do that. I appreciate we are all different but they have all been trans for many years and at best are bemused by the younger models. At worst? Possibly alienated from what they’ve said to me.

I don’t think for a minute that is Ella’s true personality but maybe it is a persona that they think the world should see and accept.

I’d rather see Ella. And an Ella who has taken the lead from family rather than maybe the telly.

I wish them well on their quest for love but I can’t warm to that type of personality at all.

Georges is similar. I don’t know who they’ve modelled themselves on but it isn’t appealing either.

Just personas. Not people. Hopefully there will be more people than personas.

Doubt it though…

Linkeh to new thread.

sorry.

. COME BACK please

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I think it's more likely that Ella's friends and peers have Botox, lips etc. She's FAR from the only one on this programme or the miriad of others. Have you never been to Essex on a Saturday night? If you're surrounded by people you like, you tend to think they look good. She does look like a typical woman of that age, of a particular group. Not like all young woman, but certainly a subset of fashion. It's not my fashion and not yours, but each to their own.

I look like my mates too (Punks not dead!) and that's not surprising. Imagine telling a young woman they should dress like their granny.

I don’t think o could be much further from Essex if I tried cherub!

It isn’t a look that is very common up here for sure so maybe I have a different perspective.

I see camouflage contouring a lot (daylight hours are fairly educational!) but not huge amounts of injectables or surgery to be fair.

I’m blinkered to it. Each to their own indeed but I’m sure there was a bonny face there to start with.

Ive got the same feckin foreheid As Gordon Ramsay used to have! I’m in no position to lecture.

But the mannerisms and affectations? As I’ve said before, it isn’t about the looks.

@Ladybrrrd I believe Sheldon was referring to behaviour rather than fashion

I can’t remember who came to the new thread

@JaneJeffer @BeeCucumber @Sunbird24 (as unbird?)
@ iwishiwascalledsheilah ?

There were more. I’m sorry. I’m stressed and can’t remember. See the new linky x

I'm not a fan of her behavior either, don't get me wrong, but the point still stands. There are young women out there who are loud, crass, and love the drama. (See Geordie Shore!) It's not that I think she's a good role model, but as I've said before I don't think it's 'acting'. I think she's just camp and dramatic.

I struggle with the words you're using just because I feel like it insinuates that the vulgar, over the top behavior of other similar young women means that they're not 'real women' either. I've been told I'm not a real woman all my life so a bit sensitive to it!

I may not like what she says, but I'll defend her right to say it!

For me it's got nothing to do with "realness". I just don't like that type of behaviour in anyone and would give them a wide berth.

It takes all sorts to make a world ladybrrrd - I absolutely mean no offence.

I’m as guilty probably of ‘persona-ness’ because I am a Gobshite on here but dwell in the shadows (mostly) in real life. Circumstance, work, location, family, caring etc where gobshitery (even if justified) is not only unwelcome but mostly leads to situations you don’t need and dramas you can do without.

If Ella is fine then that is all that matters. But you do see flashes of a different person and I think I would relate to that better. I like authenticity - however it comes. I’m not feeling that at the minute and I accept I could be wrong.

And it probably isn’t even the language or vulgarity either. I’m as guilty of that too. More so on here.

I can’t find the words to explain. I’m shit at explaining sometimes.

So sorry. Truly 💐

Sod it. I’ve made an arse of explaining that too.

It is just as well I’m a steady pair of hands at work and know what I’m trying to say there.

Here? Not so much.

It's alright I appreciate that, thanks.

Anyway I hope you're enjoying the show. I'm probably going to bow out of next thread as I'm finding all of the 'its a man!' comments about Ella a bit much. I know I should have expected it but as I've said, sensitive to that sort of thing. I don't want to keep derailing so I'll leave you too it.

Thank you for being gracious enough to accept a blabbering apology. I appreciate it too 🌻

I think I get what you're saying. It's all a bit of a panto and the behavior is silly. But I choose to ignore it because I usually like a bit of drama! Maybe it's because they behave so differently than me! 😂
I'm just uncomfortable when Ella behaves and looks like 100 other Love Island/insta model types on all sorts of programmes, but because of who she is it's "drag-esque" and "a parody".

But I know why people don't like her on here and I'm not going to keep arguing. I hope you can see where I'm coming from too, but as I said, ta-ra.

Can’t be doing with the pressures on folk for Insta or Love Island either. It worries me.

As I said. I’m likely blinkered.

Ta-ra Chuck (you made me think of Cilla and my age) 🌻

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