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THE GIRL FROM PLAINVILLE - wed and thur 10pm ch 4 - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 26/07/2023 20:52

TRIGGER

SUICIDE

This is based on true life events

will be shown on wed and thur x 4w

warning for those who may be effected so don’t read/watch

Michelle Carter was a teenager living in the eponymous middle-class suburb Plainville in Massachusetts, when she struck up a long-distance relationship with Conrad Roy, another teen who lived an hour away and who, like her, experienced mental health struggles.

Two years later on 13th July 2014, 18-year-old Conrad Roy died by suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning in his truck.

Carter, then 17-years-old, contacted Roy's mother (who was only vaguely aware that Roy had had a girlfriend prior to his death), before introducing herself to Roy's family at his memorial.

Less than a year later in February 2015, Carter would be indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of Conrad Roy, after his phone – and the text messages exchanged with Carter – was discovered by the police.

The unprecedented 'texting-suicide' case proved a landmark one, as it was the first time a person went on trial for manslaughter via text message.

As detailed by Esquire (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a57125/michelle-carter-trial/), the judge was presented with 317 pages of messages between Michelle Carter and Conrad Roy. The latter frequently brought up the topic of suicide, but Carter did not attempt to dissuade
her then-boyfriend from death by suicide – in fact, quite the reverse.

If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it," she wrote in one message (via CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/08/us/text-message-suicide-michelle-carter-conrad-roy/index.html)).

On the evening of the 12th July 2014, shortly before Conrad Roy's death, he had two phone calls with Carter.

Although detectives had no record of what was said during the phone calls, they tracked down a text message Carter sent to a friend, in which Carter appeared to confess to encouraging Conrad Roy to climb back into his truck.

"I could have stopped him," the text read. "I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car because it was working and he got scared and I fking told him
to get back in. I could of stopped him but I f
king didnt. All I had to say was I love you [sic].

Following a two-week trial, Judge Lawrence Moniz declared Michelle Carter guilty of involuntary manslaughter, stating that her "failure to act [and prevent Conrad Roy's death], where she had a self-created duty, constituted each and all wanton and reckless conduct".

Carter was sentenced to two and a half years of prison time and five years of probation. The case was subsequently the subject of HBO documentary I Love You, Now Die: The Commonwealth vs Michelle Carter.

Carter was released in January 2020 – just over three months early due to good behaviour – while her probation period ended in August 2022.

Did Words Kill? Behind the Scenes of the Shocking Michelle Carter Verdict

Earlier this year, a young woman from a small town in Massachusetts stood trial for homicide. Prosecutors argued that her calls and texts fueled her boyfriend's suicide. The verdict answered the question of whether speech alone was enough to make her g...

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a57125/michelle-carter-trial/),

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ageingdisgracefully · 19/08/2023 12:46

purpleme12 · 19/08/2023 10:53

Is the documentary that previous posters mentioned earlier called
Death By Text?
Or I Love You Now Die?
What is the best?

The one that's been mentioned here is I Love You Now Die.

I'm going to watch Death by Text next- it's on YouTube and only an hour or less.

Freshair1 · 19/08/2023 19:19

cheezncrackers · 19/08/2023 10:36

Well that's 8 hours of my life I'll never get back. Seriously, if anyone reading this thread hasn't watched yet and is interested, just watch the 2-hour documentary instead. There are no imagined scenarios, no dramatisations of what were text exchanges between Michelle and Conrad, no dance sequences. Honestly, the who thing was a mess, in retrospect. And the final 'Christmas' scenes, where the director imagined how Michelle's life might have turned out if she'd never met Conrad? FFS!

It was quite clever. It was inside of Michelle's imagination. I thought the director really captured the all consuming nature of her relationship with him.

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/08/2023 20:46

Yes 7hrs wasted

I didn't feel like that with the bbc 1 and Peter and Ann and Ben

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butterpuffed · 20/08/2023 08:55

I don't think the director could possibly know about imagination in Michelle's head . It was his own imagination , how he would like it to end .

WeetabixTowels · 22/08/2023 01:37

Hi all
i really wanna watch this but not if it’s going to paint Michelle Carter as some sort of witch and Conrad Roy as some life-loving happy go lucky chap who was hunky dory until he met Carter. Having followed the case IRL, I’d love to see a story that presents the truth and not feeding the American sensationalist/misogynist. Michelle Carter got a lot of hate and accused of thugs she didn’t do so I’d really like to have a more balanced drama!

JaneJeffer · 22/08/2023 01:48

I've got 4 episodes left to watch

AquamarineGlass · 22/08/2023 16:33

@WeetabixTowels I didn't experience it like that. It clearly shows two vulnerable young people and as the show progresses the pressure Conrad puts on Michelle becomes clear.

I didn't know anything of the story before watching and had a lot of sympathy for Michelle whilst also thinking she was disturbed.

It's an artistic retelling using creative form to explore imagination, fantasy, relationships, narrative and family dynamics and mental health.

To me the creativity was essential to conveying the perceived depth and reality of the texting relationship to the participants with its illusory nature. I don't share the view that it was confusing or frivolous.

So I would recommend it. The acting all round is superb and overall the message of two young people let down by adults: by parents, ambitious self-centred lawyers, doctors and therapists and others with their own agenda.

KinellMate · 22/08/2023 17:04

Freshair1 · 11/08/2023 08:57

Autistic or not, she indirectly contributed to someone's death.

I disagree, it was his choice.

Freshair1 · 22/08/2023 17:54

KinellMate · 22/08/2023 17:04

I disagree, it was his choice.

Oh absolutely. But she didn't exactly say he should get help, or not kill himself. In fact, she suggested a number of methods and urged him to just get on with it! Two very messed up people in the wrong place at the wrong time.

blahblahhhh · 25/08/2023 23:52

I can't imagine how depressing her life would be chatting to Conrad about his worries / issues wanting to die. It was a lot to put on to her.

Plus I feel sorry for Sam being told all the details and about his death via text.

Obviously my heart goes out to Conrad too and all his family.

In court Michelle looked like she wasn't really there. Did she ever apologise or understand why she was found guilty?

I can definitely understand their relationship. As someone's said it wasn't reality. You can pretend to be anyone via text.

I didn't understand the last episode when she went home for Christmas. Assume she was imaging that but it didn't show her in the present day.

In the scene where they have sex at the baseball field was that via text? Which parts were they actually together? Not her nans funeral either?

lazymum99 · 26/08/2023 10:36

Any information on what she is doing now?

ageingdisgracefully · 27/08/2023 09:31

She seems to be keeping a low profile. She served 11 months in the end. She's been seen at her family home. Maybe she's got a new identity now? Can't find much information.

userxx · 28/08/2023 20:49

lazymum99 · 26/08/2023 10:36

Any information on what she is doing now?

Probably having a fuck ton of therapy.

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