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THE GIRL FROM PLAINVILLE - wed and thur 10pm ch 4 - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 26/07/2023 20:52

TRIGGER

SUICIDE

This is based on true life events

will be shown on wed and thur x 4w

warning for those who may be effected so don’t read/watch

Michelle Carter was a teenager living in the eponymous middle-class suburb Plainville in Massachusetts, when she struck up a long-distance relationship with Conrad Roy, another teen who lived an hour away and who, like her, experienced mental health struggles.

Two years later on 13th July 2014, 18-year-old Conrad Roy died by suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning in his truck.

Carter, then 17-years-old, contacted Roy's mother (who was only vaguely aware that Roy had had a girlfriend prior to his death), before introducing herself to Roy's family at his memorial.

Less than a year later in February 2015, Carter would be indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of Conrad Roy, after his phone – and the text messages exchanged with Carter – was discovered by the police.

The unprecedented 'texting-suicide' case proved a landmark one, as it was the first time a person went on trial for manslaughter via text message.

As detailed by Esquire (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a57125/michelle-carter-trial/), the judge was presented with 317 pages of messages between Michelle Carter and Conrad Roy. The latter frequently brought up the topic of suicide, but Carter did not attempt to dissuade
her then-boyfriend from death by suicide – in fact, quite the reverse.

If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it," she wrote in one message (via CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/08/us/text-message-suicide-michelle-carter-conrad-roy/index.html)).

On the evening of the 12th July 2014, shortly before Conrad Roy's death, he had two phone calls with Carter.

Although detectives had no record of what was said during the phone calls, they tracked down a text message Carter sent to a friend, in which Carter appeared to confess to encouraging Conrad Roy to climb back into his truck.

"I could have stopped him," the text read. "I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car because it was working and he got scared and I fking told him
to get back in. I could of stopped him but I f
king didnt. All I had to say was I love you [sic].

Following a two-week trial, Judge Lawrence Moniz declared Michelle Carter guilty of involuntary manslaughter, stating that her "failure to act [and prevent Conrad Roy's death], where she had a self-created duty, constituted each and all wanton and reckless conduct".

Carter was sentenced to two and a half years of prison time and five years of probation. The case was subsequently the subject of HBO documentary I Love You, Now Die: The Commonwealth vs Michelle Carter.

Carter was released in January 2020 – just over three months early due to good behaviour – while her probation period ended in August 2022.

Did Words Kill? Behind the Scenes of the Shocking Michelle Carter Verdict

Earlier this year, a young woman from a small town in Massachusetts stood trial for homicide. Prosecutors argued that her calls and texts fueled her boyfriend's suicide. The verdict answered the question of whether speech alone was enough to make her g...

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a57125/michelle-carter-trial/),

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NotDonna · 11/08/2023 08:44

I’ve not watched the most recent episode yet but I highly recommend the documentary. They were both mentally unwell. He’d attempted suicide previously, severely depressed and for two years she’d supported him. He seemed quite determined to end his life, to escape the agony he was feeling. I wonder if, after two years, she actually believed she was helping him escape the pain. It’s impossible to know but the documentary doesn’t paint her as evil at all. A 17 yr old girl with some personality disorder maybe?

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/08/2023 08:44

I don't think she loved him

Was all fake

And wanted the sympathy of being the left partner

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NotDonna · 11/08/2023 08:49

Interesting @Blondeshavemorefun because I think she did. Or at least thought she did. He didn’t treat her well at times yet she clung on. She was very needy. She was constantly rejected by her friends. He was her only friend really. Two years is a good while in a teens life and the texting seems full on.

Freshair1 · 11/08/2023 08:54

They're both equally disturbed. They're both vulnerable. Desperately sad. He was crying out for help.

DSDaisy · 11/08/2023 08:55

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Freshair1 · 11/08/2023 08:57

Autistic or not, she indirectly contributed to someone's death.

pilates · 11/08/2023 09:15

She came across very controlling and manipulative. Their whole relationship seemed to be on the phone rarely meeting up in real life. She presented as having a personality disorder but that doesn’t excuse her actions.

DSDaisy · 11/08/2023 09:19

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Freshair1 · 11/08/2023 09:21

And if you look at what I put, I said that both were vulnerable. They were bad for eachother.

DSDaisy · 11/08/2023 09:31

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purpleme12 · 12/08/2023 23:02

Honestly I think it's impossible to determine if she really loved him from this show.
Fair enough if you've seen the documentary but from this show, I will reserve judgment about the actual reality.

Freshair1 · 13/08/2023 07:40

I felt so sad watching the girl and her failed social interactions. I don't understand what the other girls found so difficult about her.

cheezncrackers · 13/08/2023 21:42

Such a complex case - I really don't envy the judge having to make a ruling on whether she was guilty or not. I've watched up to Ep 6 of the dramatisation and the 2-part documentary and to me it's really clear that these were two people who really had very little in common, apart from their seriously poor mental health. They came from very different walks of life - Michelle was a middle class girl and Conrad a working class guy - and but for that chance meeting in Florida I doubt their paths would never have crossed. I think if they'd ever spent any real time together in person, their relationship would quickly have fizzled out due to a complete lack of common ground. But because they spent so little time getting to know one another in person, it allowed for the creation of a kind of fantasy relationship - Michelle seems to have lived most of her life in a fantasy world/Glee mash-up anyway. Whatever the real truth, it was a huge disaster that they ever met. Without her, he might still be alive, although I very much doubt it as he had apparently made at least four suicide attempts before he succeeded in ending his life. Just a huge tragedy for them both really.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/08/2023 22:14

I'm
Not sure I can last another 2hrs for E 7&8 next week

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purpleme12 · 13/08/2023 22:43

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/08/2023 22:14

I'm
Not sure I can last another 2hrs for E 7&8 next week

This is not like you Blondes 🤣

ageingdisgracefully · 13/08/2023 22:44

I think I'd be on the point of giving up out of sheer confusion if I hadn't seen the documentary. I'm looking forward to seeing how the trial is dealt with.

I kinda sympathise, @Blondeshavemorefun; there's a lot of piffle to sit through.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/08/2023 22:48

I know @purpleme12 It's kinda dragging

Yet wolf I love and can't wait for tomorow

And even reunion isn't that bad

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NotDonna · 13/08/2023 23:12

Yes. I can understand that blondes the dramatisation is only bearable because I’ve watched the documentary and I’m interested to see how they compare.

ruby2019missyou · 14/08/2023 17:50

I wish I could watch this. The first few episodes aren't on All4 anymore :-(

SmoothSeasDoNotMakeGoodSailors · 15/08/2023 13:04

Can someone please explain her eyebrows to me? Why are they suddenly dark? It's very distracting!

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/08/2023 13:15

ruby2019missyou · 14/08/2023 17:50

I wish I could watch this. The first few episodes aren't on All4 anymore :-(

All of them are showing on sky Demand ch 4

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Blondeshavemorefun · 15/08/2023 13:17

And shows on 4 as well
From e2 tho that goes pop in a day

THE GIRL FROM PLAINVILLE - wed and thur 10pm ch 4 - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS
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userxx · 15/08/2023 13:19

SmoothSeasDoNotMakeGoodSailors · 15/08/2023 13:04

Can someone please explain her eyebrows to me? Why are they suddenly dark? It's very distracting!

The real Michelle Carter has very dark eyebrows.... google it and you'll see what I mean.

ruby2019missyou · 15/08/2023 17:49

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/08/2023 13:15

All of them are showing on sky Demand ch 4

I don't have Sky, but I have NOW and they aren't there unfortunately.

ruby2019missyou · 15/08/2023 17:50

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/08/2023 13:17

And shows on 4 as well
From e2 tho that goes pop in a day

I saw that, but it's episode 1 I need and can't find anywhere.