And Just Like That

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Late to this… persevered through it but god, it’s awful. Miranda is sooo annoying. All the woke stuff is just so trite.

I am kind of interested in Carrie’s storyline so will watch to the end but I’m not sure why!

Sex And The City sparkled. Just Like That just lies there flat as a pancake.

Well there was a lot to unpick this week wasn’t there?

Did not like..
-Che (obvs). It is ridiculous to think that there would be no intervention by Charlotte or Carrie had this been a Male character. So many red flags. Agree the character is highly manipulative. If IRL the (non starring) producers have allowed CN to push her narrative on the series, they should give their collective heads a fucking wobble. It is genuinely off-putting.
-The baffling ‘hot teenage boy’ storyline. Esp LTW who clearly has a son in the same year. Just no. Probably written by someone who has zero experience of teenage boys beyond being a teenage girl. And completely jarring with the ‘we’re all so aware’ narrative peddled in the other storylines.
-the ‘we can see it coming a mile off’, phone going off in the show-taping scene
-The shoehorned cater-waiter jewellery heist scene. Also, the jewellery which looked like the sort of stuff you see in a woo-woo crystal-peddling shop window.
-lack of Steve in the Brady storyline
-lack of bird-based accessories for Carrie this week 😂

Loved
-Brady coming back to his Mum after being such a dick in S1.
-That everyone kept their clothes on this week . My eyes are still reeling from last week’s flotation tank full frontal. If I want to see a naked 50-something year old body I’ll use a mirror, thanks.
-The Carrie book reading scenes. I cried as much as I did in S1,Ep1.
-The raw truth about being a widow from Bitsy.
-Seema’s outfits which are en pointe for this character. I’m also marvelling at how Sarita Choudhury looks younger than she did 10+yrs ago in Homeland.
-The theft of beloved possessions resonated with me. I had some stuff nicked last year I was so angry that pieces I’d had for years and had worked hard for and (like the Birkin) had such meaning were pilfered by some fucking oik.

On another note, (and a bit like the ewww ‘hot’ schoolboy storyline ) Kim Catrall has revealed that one of the reasons she had refused the SATC 3 movie because the storyline included a then 14yr old Brady sending dick pics to her. She went on to say that AJLT is basically the plot to that movie. It’s a shame she didn’t do this show because maybe she’d have stood up to some of the ridiculous plot devices.

Finally, did anyone read Camilla Long’s description in the Sunday Times last week of the Che/Miranda pool sex scene?

‘It looked someone trying to push a piano uphill’

Brutal. 😂

Last week when Miranda got into the purple truck with Che’s ex husband there was a little spark between them. Wonder if she’ll end up with him?

Also - bring back Steve, Brady needs him!

I’m glad it wasn’t just me who was mystified by the jewellery thief. Why on earth were they meant to just hand over their stuff? Why were they pleading with him? Surely just tell him to fuck off?

The ‘humanising’ of Che is so obvious it may as well come with an announcement at the start of each episode. And I am also confused by the whole premise of this show. If she didn’t write it, and the writer/producer/whoever doesn’t think she can act it well enough, why on earth are they making it? None of it makes sense.

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It's as bad as those SATC film spin-offs, in my opinion, but in a different way

I watched a bit of SATC yesterday- S2 which I hadn't rewatched since it came out- and felt sad for how sparky and cool and ambitious Miranda used to be. She was always my fave.

But also, gosh being alone was really so taboo in the 90s? Like eating by yourself or sitting at a cafe by yourself or going to the movies by yourself? I do that all the time. Even though I am married!

I’m watching SATC again from the beginning reminding myself how wonderful it was.

Those relationships and stories all hung together beautifully and it felt like you were part of their stories, even if you were a teenager without that same life experience (as I was in the late nineties).

AJLT may have the same characters but it doesn’t have the heart. I just don’t love it. The bits I do like are the bits that take us back to the past. When Carrie is grieving Big / reading her book aloud. When Miranda is with Brady. When they are having chats, even with new friends, over lunch.

But there’s too little of the old them. I agree with PP too, the voiceovers are a real miss.

I still really enjoy AJLT, yes it's not as good as the original. But what is?

'Those relationships and stories all hung together beautifully and it felt like you were part of their stories, even if you were a teenager without that same life experience (as I was in the late nineties).'

Exactly the same here. Also, someone very astutely mentioned upthread that the characters were often going through stuff you could relate to, like chasing after loser men, or falling out with a dear friend, or dealing with loss. A lot of it was very relatable, just not the $400 shoes and Birkin handbags 😂

Has anyone felt that SATC spoilt real life friendships in a way? Because they are never as good? I do have 3 friends over over 25 years from uni, actually, but we are scattered, lose touch often, and are definitely not in each other's lives as much, though we are still close.

I loved that Brady wanted his mum, don't forget that he's not really processed his parents splitting as he was caught up in the excitement of his relationship at the time.

Che obviously hasn't realised that Miranda having a son means they will never be number one in Miranda's life. I'm so happy she went home for him, perhaps it'll help snap her out of her midlife crisis.

The "Last Supper" publicity photo. Brady and Lily are getting together, judging by the way they are gazing at each other.

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64092353/?ref_=nm_nwr_1

Been thinking about why Carrie's character is so flat. I think it's because her story the entire series of SATC was about Big in some way. The chase, the relationship, the does he love me, the break up, the heartbreak of his marriage, the new man and how he compared, the affair, the long distance friendship, the FWB....even when she "deleted" Big and went to Paris when she was with Petrovsky, she was still comparing him to Big. The entire story arch was about her journey to get him. Without him she seems to have no purpose. I'm really intrigued to see how they will write Aiden into her current state whether she'll be able to lay Big to rest, finally, and live the parallel life she could have had, or whether Aiden without Big as a comparison - making him look better than he was - will not be good enough.

I’m intrigued by the fact that Aiden got married and had two or three kids. What would Carrie be like as a potential stepmother? Or will they forget the kids exist?

@Ridemeginger Such a good point. Just rewatching SATC and she’s on the phone to him when Burger (Berger?) goes off to take a break.

As much as I was never Team Aiden, I like this idea of the parallel life thing that they could show. Although it wouldn’t really work because she skipped having to marry him, have kids and spend weekends at his shack in the country.

And it would prove Charlotte’s point that you only get two great loves! 😂

And Carrie gets to have her cake and eat it like she always did . Aiden … really she should have picked him first

As a recovering addict, I remember the recently into recovery alcoholic that Carrie dated, he became obsessed with her then relapsed which felt pretty realistic for what sex and the city was.

the writers in AJLT seemed to have forgotten Miranda is in recovery and just chucked in an AA thing for the hell of it. Whilst I’d say yes she’s got the obsession with Che, I just find it utterly bizarre that this woman has all of a sudden remembered she’s an alcoholic and can no longer find ways to fill her time….so of course the other alcoholic is doing volunteering… it’s just so bloody cliche.

I haven't read the whole thread since the episodes aired but watched all 3 yesterday. I'm also dismayed about Miranda and it feels like Cynthia Nixon has turned the show into her own agenda pushing, which if she was trying to make middle aged non binary identities appear sensical and valid and not a load of grammatically painful self obsessed blah she has failed.
new Miranda is pathetic and yes to saying she's basically wandering around Paris eating croissants and seems to have zero of her old personality remaining.
che remains insufferable and I cannot understand how they took the feedback from the first series and doubled down on che and Miranda and the genderwoo agenda! At least Carrie seems like herself for better and worse and is now doing a podcast called sex and the city in which she doesn't get called 'miss cis' by a patronising 'they'.

That's very true. They were embarrassing in the spin-offs and even more embarrassing in this series. They are trying so hard to be up to the minute in every passing fad and fancy.
Che would never have been tolerated in SATC. Miranda should have been sitting in a higher court by now rather than agonising over a gross and vulgar woman. And Charlotte used to be pernickety and anxious to get things right but was saved from being irritating by a ribbon of kindness woven through her character. And sorry it has to be said - Carrie has got too old for 'the fabulous clothes'.

You can NEVER be too old for the fabulous clothes!!

'You can NEVER be too old for the fabulous clothes!!'

Well said!!! Too old? She's 55, not 205!

Whilst Carrie's fashion is a bit outlandish, it's not like she's trying to dress like she's 25. I prefer LTW's wardrobe - and Seema's, but Carrie is for the dedicated fashionista.

I bet many women half SJP's age wish they looked as good. She's the same age as all the 1980s/90s super models who are still rocking the catwalk. She's in the same age bracket as most of the mature, authoritative, well dressed and beautiful women we see on our TV screens every day. I think her clothes in AJLT have been lovely (apart from the Pilot/Dunelm Curtain dress).

@Barold I wonder if we will see Carrie embarking on an affair with a married Aiden, in a bit of a twist on the Big&Carrie affair/Aiden betrayal story. He was on the cusp of cheating on his wife with Carrie in SATC2, the hypocrite. It will be quite amusing if it goes wrong, and he discovers he can't even compete with a dead Big. I didn't like him either (although he didn't deserve her both cheating on him, then having Carrie forcing him to befriend her affair partner). I'm not entirely convinced Carrie really loved him. He was the anti-Big, completely open and willing to give her everything, and that was his value to her, imo. Everything. was always about Big and what he wasn't giving her. Even her almost affair with Aiden in Abu Dhabi was all about what Big wasn't giving her in terms of romance and excitement. It wasn't about Aiden as such, it was a "sign" that she deserved more than she was getting at home (utterly selfish of course).

I've just watched all 3 episodes back to back and actually I'm enjoying it more than the first series.

However, the bit with the mums staring at the handsome UNDERAGE schoolboy (there's no way he would be 18) made me feel sick. Totally out of place and inappropriate. This doesn't match with the woke 21st century angle we're being beaten over the head with. I was actually horrified.

And Carrie's dress sense is fabulous no what what age she is. Women need to get over the whole idea that we have to comply with some bullshit about what is 'suitable' to wear regardless of our age.