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Daisy Jones and the Six

167 replies

Chikapu · 03/03/2023 21:30

Is anyone watching? I'm finding it increasingly boring and Sam Claflin is woefully miscast, he's far too old and looks nothing like a rock star.

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SerafinasGoose · 29/03/2023 15:25

Mirabai · 29/03/2023 15:22

Rumours was not cool, you can even tell that from the naff cover. By 1982 they the musical equivalent of mom jeans.

Nicks is a cool woman with a distinctive voice but that doesn’t mean their brand of folk pop rock lite has any street cred.

Who cares? Music is good, or it's not good.

If I like something I couldn't give less of a shiny shit whether (in other people's eyes) it has 'street cred' or not.

Mirabai · 29/03/2023 15:31

It doesn’t have street cred because it wasn’t that good is the point. It’s very, very middle of the road. And their 80s stuff was cringe.

SerafinasGoose · 29/03/2023 15:54

Mirabai · 29/03/2023 15:31

It doesn’t have street cred because it wasn’t that good is the point. It’s very, very middle of the road. And their 80s stuff was cringe.

Not the point. Your point.

One of the biggest-selling rock albums of all time, sell-out stadium gigs spanning five decades, first woman ever to be inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame twice: all these points add up to an entirely different point.

Before you're tempted to counter this by stating that 'bestselling' doesn't equal 'good': true. I happen to think the likes of Adele whatsherface, dance/rave, Simon Cowell’s identikit clones, Robbie Williams, Elton, Lennon, McCartney and the Beatles are a bucket of shit. The different is, you won’t find me on any thread discussing these artists enumerating all the accumulative reasons why I think they’re shit. Or how an album’s cover is indicative that the music is ‘naff’. Or even how perceptions of ‘street cred’ are childish. And for the very good reason that nobody remotely cares.

Taste is so subjective. Superciliously telling other people off about who is and isn’t ‘good’ is really silly and pointless. This is a lighthearted thread.

Mirabai · 29/03/2023 16:41

I haven’t told you off. Someone asked if they were cool I said no and you had a tantrum. You’re the one who made the point: “music is either good or it’s not good”.

Theirs is quite good, not brilliant, it was very popular though - precisely because it was so middle of the road. Nicks has a memorable voice, McVie and Buckingham are good but not great guitar players, the songwriting is ok but not amazing - their songs tend to be rather dull - Dreams for example is a very limited melodically & rather dreary.

I’m not saying their many fans shouldn’t like them, but that wasn’t the question.

SerafinasGoose · 29/03/2023 16:49

Mirabai · 29/03/2023 16:41

I haven’t told you off. Someone asked if they were cool I said no and you had a tantrum. You’re the one who made the point: “music is either good or it’s not good”.

Theirs is quite good, not brilliant, it was very popular though - precisely because it was so middle of the road. Nicks has a memorable voice, McVie and Buckingham are good but not great guitar players, the songwriting is ok but not amazing - their songs tend to be rather dull - Dreams for example is a very limited melodically & rather dreary.

I’m not saying their many fans shouldn’t like them, but that wasn’t the question.

a) You responded to me. I didn't come to you.

b) No one cares what either you or I think of FM. This also includes me.

Mirabai · 29/03/2023 17:52

I responded to a question posed by a pp. There’s no need to get so worked up if someone criticises your favourite band.

Jellyheadbang · 01/04/2023 03:31

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 26/03/2023 10:23

Huh? There are constant scenes of coke being snorted.

You sound awfully angry about a TV show…

Haha at 'awfully angry' , yeah bloody fuming mate 🤣🙄
Just thought it was a bit wet.
Tbf I'd only watched up to episode 4 or 5, for some reason had not seen further episodes were available straight away so finished watching this week.
It definitely perked up once daisy and billy started all the unrequited love shenanigans.
Still cheesy and formulaic, and her signature dance move was hilarious

Figgygal · 01/04/2023 22:34

Hmm finished it today it was all fine .....just fine

Didn't like the how I met your motheresquece ending though

mrsnjw · 03/04/2023 08:40

Finished this last night. I hadn't read the book so liked the sad twist at the end. I really enjoyed it. Once you knew who daisy's grandad was you couldn't not see how much she looked like him. Had to look up the lead singer and of course Me before Him. Reece weatherspoon seems like a talented producer! All in all I'd recommend.

pickledandpuzzled · 03/04/2023 11:28

Billy was the older brother and had been to Vietnam before joining his kid brother's band.

The Six weren't great, Billy wasn't great- that was the point. With Daisy, they became great. Fictionally, obviously!

I really liked the whole genius/toxic combination. With Camilla as the stabilising influence.

Karen's character was great, but so sad. She gave him up so she could keep being a rock star, but couldn't keep being a rock star. Ditto the bass player!
In searching for a bit of perfection, they lost it all. Warren was the stable, realistic one as it turns out 😂

mrsnjw · 03/04/2023 12:04

Warren, the drummer, at least appreciated what he had and went on to be happy 😃

EachandEveryone · 03/04/2023 13:02

mrsnjw · 03/04/2023 08:40

Finished this last night. I hadn't read the book so liked the sad twist at the end. I really enjoyed it. Once you knew who daisy's grandad was you couldn't not see how much she looked like him. Had to look up the lead singer and of course Me before Him. Reece weatherspoon seems like a talented producer! All in all I'd recommend.

I think Reese Witherspoon just has alot of money to buy the rights😃😃 she was horrible to Jennifer Aniston on Graham Norton when they were talking about books and Jes said Reese is the one that reads alot of books as quick as a flash Reese said she hardly ever reads at all. It was embarrassing and I havent liked her since.

BeginningToLookALotLike · 03/04/2023 19:19

I agree about Warren and about the genius/toxic combination. Teddy was the true genius in my eyes. I'm glad Simone found happiness also.

realsavagelike · 04/04/2023 00:33

@Mirabai , to say Lindsey Buckingham is not a great guitar player is categorically untrue. The guy has needed 2 people to replace him on both occasions he left the band.

Housewife2010 · 04/04/2023 06:48

Twinedpeaks · 06/03/2023 19:10

I don't think an actress or actor ever sings live in a show, you wouldn't be able to pick up the vocals properly. It's always done in a studio and laid over

In the film of Les Miserables all that singing was live.

NooNakedJacuzziness · 04/04/2023 08:27

realsavagelike · 04/04/2023 00:33

@Mirabai , to say Lindsey Buckingham is not a great guitar player is categorically untrue. The guy has needed 2 people to replace him on both occasions he left the band.

100% agree - I've seen him live and he was absolutely amazing.

Mirabai · 04/04/2023 08:33

I said he was good. But he’s not up there with Jimmy Page or Jimi Hendrix or even Peter Green. Never seen him in a top 50 guitarists line up.

realsavagelike · 04/04/2023 15:29

@Mirabai Oh Well 😉

UndercoverCop · 04/04/2023 23:20

Too many people have broken the golden rule here, if you've read the book don't watch the TV show/film. It will never match up to the images/relationships/magic in your head.
I've enjoyed it so far as something light I watch while doing cardio at the gym, but I haven't and won't read the book. There are many books I love which have been adapted for screen, the few I've watched have sorely disappointed.

MermaidEyes · 05/04/2023 10:13

UndercoverCop · 04/04/2023 23:20

Too many people have broken the golden rule here, if you've read the book don't watch the TV show/film. It will never match up to the images/relationships/magic in your head.
I've enjoyed it so far as something light I watch while doing cardio at the gym, but I haven't and won't read the book. There are many books I love which have been adapted for screen, the few I've watched have sorely disappointed.

I kind of agree with this. I did read the book first but normally I don't as I'm always disappointed. However, I often watch something that's been adapted from a book then read the book after as I prefer it that way. Especially true crime documentaries which always have a good deal more information in the book than was in the programme.

SerafinasGoose · 05/04/2023 16:29

UndercoverCop · 04/04/2023 23:20

Too many people have broken the golden rule here, if you've read the book don't watch the TV show/film. It will never match up to the images/relationships/magic in your head.
I've enjoyed it so far as something light I watch while doing cardio at the gym, but I haven't and won't read the book. There are many books I love which have been adapted for screen, the few I've watched have sorely disappointed.

I don't necessarily agree. Text and screen are completely different media; nothing translates directly, but there's a common misconception that the source/book is always infinitely superior to any adaptation.

IME that's not the case. In some instances, film adaptations are better. In some nothing can beat the books, but the adaptations do them a creditable service (the recent His Dark Materials series being an example). Tolkien purists tend to hate the Peter Jackson adaptations but for me, the ways it's been done translates better to screen than the way the original books are structured. The third and fourth instalment work better for film as one parallel-cut instalment: the protracted Fangorn forest bit and journey to Mordor get pretty drawn-out and protracted; done this way it helps maintain interest for longer. Plus there's a lot missing from the ending of the books, but the end of the 'Return of the King' on film was already drawn out enough.

As to Daisy Jones and the Six, I thought the sense of pathos/failure that comes from a phenomenal, but flash-in-the-pan, success, seemed pretty well done in both the series and the book. In the series (superficial I know) I loved the clothes and 70s sets.

But whoever heard of a rock front man who was into recovery before hitting the bigtime?

As to the believability of this troupe and their album as a musical juggernaut, I quite liked the lyrics in the book, imagining what the sound would be like. The screen version of course had to include the music, which in my estimation was pretty shit. It's hard imagining that this was one of the biggest bands in the era to listen to that!

pickledandpuzzled · 05/04/2023 16:37

They do emphasise it's a bit of a one hit wonder... and he did do 'Nam, so addiction in the first round of success isn't that far out.

I am actually still singing fragments of the songs, so there was something about them.

But then I'm more of an acceptor than a critic!

Though I hated the LoR films. Violence and tedium in swathes.

realsavagelike · 05/04/2023 21:01

I love the music and downloaded the ‘album’ which I’m now listening to on repeat

Twisting · 05/04/2023 21:12

pickledandpuzzled · 05/04/2023 16:37

They do emphasise it's a bit of a one hit wonder... and he did do 'Nam, so addiction in the first round of success isn't that far out.

I am actually still singing fragments of the songs, so there was something about them.

But then I'm more of an acceptor than a critic!

Though I hated the LoR films. Violence and tedium in swathes.

I didn't think he did do 'nam in the book. Thought his number was too high, so he was lucky and not called. But the other bloke went and was killed. I thought his addiction was predominantly alcohol. Wasn't that Christine's husband's issue in Fleetwood mac too?

I know I know; far too invested in beach read fluff.

pickledandpuzzled · 06/04/2023 08:49

realsavagelike · 05/04/2023 21:01

I love the music and downloaded the ‘album’ which I’m now listening to on repeat

I've just found it on Alexa.

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