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William "screamed and shouted" at Harry.

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felulageller · 15/12/2022 10:37

Ep5.
So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for.

Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM.

Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them?

Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

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IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:53

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healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 17:55

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 ok so she was in the uk so she knew what british idea of marriage was , did she also exchange vows with her ex before her marriage as part of her culture? And not all african americans so this as part of their culture either ? People are different

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:56

*Non-Legal Traditional or Cultural Ceremonies

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It is also perfectly legal to have a traditional or cultural ceremony that does not create a legal marriage*
www.jennifercram.com.au/BLOG/more_than_one_wedding.htm#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20can%20have%20as,a%20legal%20marriage%20between%20you.

BedTaker · 15/12/2022 17:57

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:50

Yes, and? People do consider exchange of vows 'married', even if not legally.

So why didn't she say that? She said, to the entire world, that they actually got married 3 days before, with no clarification whatsoever.

She knew that people would be like 'wtf' and question what she meant. It was also out of order go bring the AofCs professional reputation into question tbh.

MyMumSaysALot · 15/12/2022 17:58

Tabitha005 · 15/12/2022 17:41

Continually amazed by anyone who's surprised that a prince and a Hollywood actress are making it ALL about them.

You’re making it all about them. The gutter press has made it all about them. The social media haters have made it all about them.
For years.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:58

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 17:55

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 ok so she was in the uk so she knew what british idea of marriage was , did she also exchange vows with her ex before her marriage as part of her culture? And not all african americans so this as part of their culture either ? People are different

Of course she knew what marriage in Britain is but it is common vernacular to say you were 'married' if you exchanged vows. In many cultures, it is on the exchange of vows that you are married. Not when you sign the paperwork. I don't know if she had two weddings with her ex.

LeandraDear · 15/12/2022 17:58

So what if William shouted? This was in a meeting that Harry requested to ask for the arrangements for them leaving. It's quite natural that William might have shouted but this was not a meeting that was called to bully Harry - it was to discuss what H was requesting. He wanted to to belong to the club but not pay the fees.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 15/12/2022 18:00

BedTaker · 15/12/2022 17:57

So why didn't she say that? She said, to the entire world, that they actually got married 3 days before, with no clarification whatsoever.

She knew that people would be like 'wtf' and question what she meant. It was also out of order go bring the AofCs professional reputation into question tbh.

Meghan said the couple already had had their own private wedding. “You know, three days before our wedding, we got married. No one knows that,” she told Winfrey in their extraordinary CBS interview. “But we called the archbishop and we just said, ‘Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world but we want our union between us.’ So, the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our back yard with the archbishop of Canterbury.”

With some questioning Meghan’s claim, the Rev Tiffer Robinson, a Church of England vicar in Suffolk, wrote on Twitter: “She’s entitled to consider it her marriage if she wants to. Americans are much less concerned with the specifics of marriage law than English clergy.

“Most of their wedding ceremonies aren’t legal weddings … saying ‘we really got married three days before in a secret ceremony’ is not actually the same as saying they were legally wed three days before everyone thought they were.”

LeandraDear · 15/12/2022 18:00

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:58

Of course she knew what marriage in Britain is but it is common vernacular to say you were 'married' if you exchanged vows. In many cultures, it is on the exchange of vows that you are married. Not when you sign the paperwork. I don't know if she had two weddings with her ex.

It really isn't common in Britain.

biscuiteer · 15/12/2022 18:00

I can see why they felt they had to leave.

Cornettoninja · 15/12/2022 18:00

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 17:21

I care about hate on anyone. But nobody is hating on William or Kate!

And no you didn't answer my question. I've just scrolled back through. It want clear at all what you were talking about.

Nobody hates on W&K? You must have missed the affair rumours and the million comments slagging off their children throughout the jubilee.

I’m sure it upsets them greatly when/if they’re exposed to it but they have enough perspective to see it for what it is - a few peoples opinions who they have no reason to care about.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 18:00

BedTaker · 15/12/2022 17:57

So why didn't she say that? She said, to the entire world, that they actually got married 3 days before, with no clarification whatsoever.

She knew that people would be like 'wtf' and question what she meant. It was also out of order go bring the AofCs professional reputation into question tbh.

Because she clearly didn't think people in the UK would be so uptight and so proper that they wouldn't know. I myself would never have expected people in the UK (I'm not in the UK) to act like they did. I am so surprised at shocked at how they acted, to something which is just common vernacular in my culture and in hers. She just...... didn't think she needed to explain. I didn't think it needed an explanation. I am shocked it did.

BedTaker · 15/12/2022 18:00

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:58

Of course she knew what marriage in Britain is but it is common vernacular to say you were 'married' if you exchanged vows. In many cultures, it is on the exchange of vows that you are married. Not when you sign the paperwork. I don't know if she had two weddings with her ex.

She had a wedding paid for by the British public, which was watched by millions all over the world.

To essentially say 'actually, that wasn't the real wedding, we fooled everyone lol' without clarifying what she meant is just weird.

Reindeersnooker · 15/12/2022 18:01

potniatheron · 15/12/2022 16:18

You have no idea what I've been through in my life. I can tell you that suicide ideation (very different from death by suicide or an attempt) is MUCH more palatable when one lives in a palace and had the world's finest therapists at one's fingertips, than when one is living in a mental health ward, desperately ill and at the whims of a useless and uncaring NHS.

I do know that Megan and Harry are in the hyper privileged 1%. I also know that they have not been through hell. Hell does not look like pretty tears wept on an Hermes blanket whilst Beyonce texts useless platitudes. This pampered pair have no idea about real life. And they have no interest in finding out either, because they are so enamoured of their own narcissistic selves.

With respect, you don't have the corner on human suffering. You have no idea how different it feels to weep into a Hermes blanket versus an NHS blanket (and if you could you to the ward and were under the care of a psychiatrist I really doubt they were indifferent to you). No one has the corner on human suffering. You don't know what it is like to feel like the world's media hates you and it's inciting others to hurt your child. You don't know how it feels to be told by someone else that you cannot access a facility that might help.

Honestly, I think it's a pity that whatever you've been through hasn't shown you that anyone anywhere, can be at the end of themselves and money, while useful, cannot necessarily take away that suffering.

Cornettoninja · 15/12/2022 18:02

without clarifying what she meant is just weird

In fairness that does appear to be their entire MO. They don’t clarify anything and leave it all open to interpretation and speculation. For that alone I think they’re trolling on an epic scale and making some decent cash out of it.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 18:02

LeandraDear · 15/12/2022 18:00

It really isn't common in Britain.

Yes, I've learned that now, and Meghan has clearly learned that now, too. The problem is some people in Britain think Britain is the be all and end all and if they don't 'understand it', it is "nonsense" or simply doesn't happen. They cannot conceive a world or culture outside of their colonial white Britain.

LeandraDear · 15/12/2022 18:04

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 18:02

Yes, I've learned that now, and Meghan has clearly learned that now, too. The problem is some people in Britain think Britain is the be all and end all and if they don't 'understand it', it is "nonsense" or simply doesn't happen. They cannot conceive a world or culture outside of their colonial white Britain.

I think that is so funny considering the USA is so antiquated and backward in many ways compared to the UK.

Cornettoninja · 15/12/2022 18:04

They cannot conceive a world or culture outside of their colonial white Britain

You’ve never set foot in Britain have you?

Tessabelle74 · 15/12/2022 18:04

My sister and I had a horrible row one Christmas, over whether to put butter in the mashed carrot and swede or not. How much will netflix pay for the exclusive? ( If you're reading this Sun reporters, I take cash, cheers)

Coxspurplepippin · 15/12/2022 18:05

I don't think anyone knew what she meant. If she'd said something along the lines of we had a few private moments exchanging a few special words with each other with just the archbishop present people would have understood. But to say that they actually got married 3 days before their actual wedding - load of cobblers. It was a 'gotcha' moment - haha, all those people watching the wedding but little did they know we got married three days before.

Did she marry her first husband three days before the wedding? Nah, thought not. This wasn't anything to do with 'culture'. It was to do with the specialness of Harry and Meghan.

Understandable if, as in France, people have an official marriage at the town hall then have another perhaps more religious or meaningful ceremony after. Or if you're not into religious or state sanctioned marriage and just want to make a promise to someone. But to claim you were married before your beautiful wedding with the choirs and musicians you'd chosen especially, and your celebrity mates and your beautiful dress? Why didn't they just pop off to the registry office? I doubt the queen would have minded if they'd said they didn't want the whole royal wedding shebang.

or if Meghan didn't want the actual wedding, just a personal exchange of vows, why did they bother? No-one raised an eyebrow at them living together. William and Kate had lived together. Or perhaps she did actually want the legal bit of an actual legal marriage for some reason....

Cornettoninja · 15/12/2022 18:06

Tessabelle74 · 15/12/2022 18:04

My sister and I had a horrible row one Christmas, over whether to put butter in the mashed carrot and swede or not. How much will netflix pay for the exclusive? ( If you're reading this Sun reporters, I take cash, cheers)

I’m quite invested in this. Obviously you were on the side of right and put in the butter yes?

PinkTonic · 15/12/2022 18:06

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 17:15

Sigh. Google it yourself. People often have two weddings in many cultures.

People can of course say they are married when they are not, but this is not what MM said.

That is exactly what she said. They EXCHANGED VOWS. To many people, exchanging vows is the point. Not the paperwork.

She said we got married. That’s what she said. Nobody knows this but three days before the spectacle we got married.

GCAcademic · 15/12/2022 18:06

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 18:02

Yes, I've learned that now, and Meghan has clearly learned that now, too. The problem is some people in Britain think Britain is the be all and end all and if they don't 'understand it', it is "nonsense" or simply doesn't happen. They cannot conceive a world or culture outside of their colonial white Britain.

I think the problem more accurately is that some Americans think the world revolves around them, expect to be accommodated and treated as special wherever they go, and can’t conceive that there are cultures other than their own. Let’s face it, we’ve all seen this type of American tourist, and Megan was just a more grandiose example.

SallyLockheart · 15/12/2022 18:07

Cornettoninja · 15/12/2022 18:06

I’m quite invested in this. Obviously you were on the side of right and put in the butter yes?

mashed carrot and swede together is an abomination. regardless of butter!

BedTaker · 15/12/2022 18:07

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 18:02

Yes, I've learned that now, and Meghan has clearly learned that now, too. The problem is some people in Britain think Britain is the be all and end all and if they don't 'understand it', it is "nonsense" or simply doesn't happen. They cannot conceive a world or culture outside of their colonial white Britain.

She was marrying a senior member of the Royal Family. I'm sure at some point during this whole 'secret wedding' thing, with apparently the Arch Bish also involved, the heir to the throne might have explained to her the British concept of marriage.

But then apparently he also didn't bother telling her that she was going to have to curtsey to the Queen until seconds before meeting her, so maybe he is just totally useless in that respect?

Also if she 'just didn't realise' then why did she reveal it as such a 'big secret'?

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