Boy George is a more terrible person than Matt Hancock and I'm sick of people pretending he isn't

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Why does he get a pass for his brutal, clearly sexually motivated crime (he threatened the guy with whips and sex toys) and still have a career?

I'm so irritated I'm having to sound like I'm defending Hancock, a corrupt, inept Tory who cheated on his wife. He personifies everything wrong with Johnston's cabinet, but no he didn't kill thousands, Covid did. The decision to return vulnerable people from hospital to care homes was a terrible one, but we did the exact same thing in Scotland. He isn't a sex offender.

If Boy George had chained up a female sex worker and beat her with an iron bar and threatened to rape her with sex toys he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity to be on TV again.

Matt Hancock is a worse person than Boy George.
Matt Hancock is a worse person than most people.

@TooBigForMyBoots wow

I don't that is true at all. Not a fan but there are a great many people worse than Matt Hancock.

MH was a member of a Government that made decisions, some not good . Here in Scotland, Sturgeon made the same decisions and yet no one seems to be branding her as the worst person in the world !
BG is a hypocrite. Served his time ? I wonder how his victim feels ? And Chris Moyles ? Tax evader , sexist , homophobic - nasty piece of work .

Boy George was punished and convicted for his crime, which was committed when he was addicted to class A drugs. The jury took that into account, and judged him accordingly.

Matt Hancock will get away with his, despite the numbers of people dying, and despite his hypocrisy. He'll also get away with doing deals for lucrative government contracts with his mates.

I don't think he thinks he will.

He said in the camp there's an enquiry and it will show up what he did and didn't do well and decisions made etc.

He almost seemed to accept the trial wouldn't paint his every move in a great light.

What I think is unfair is being held to account for decisions you made using science and advisors that the PM agreed and announced. Especially when those very same people aren't held to account.

There was a shitshow of conflicting statements and decisions. Anyone remember schools January 2021?

The biggest mistake politicians make is sticking to the party line - party before politics. But it goes with the territory sadly.

I liked him more than most others during covid. Please note I can't stand the Tory's as a bunch though!

I think it's a real shame some jobs require your public persona to be at odds of who you are as a person and I'm intrigued about how much this is true with MH.

I don't agree he should have gone though for all the obvious reasons pointed out!

I don't think that it's in anyone's interests to find a whipping boy (pun is unfortunate).

I judge people on how they treat me.

If I was in government, I wouldn't last a week. For the simple reason that sometimes, no option is palatable! You need to have nerves of steel for government. Sometimes, horrible, nasty, decisions need to be made.

I'd far prefer if governments had auditors in twice a year. Corruption needs to be quashed. Difficult decisions with honesty? They need to be made sometimes.

These enquires after the fact piss me off. When a company is about to go into administration, external auditors come in. It's irrelevant after the fact.

Our government needs to have auditors in on a quarterly basis imo.

There has to be some regulation of them. Technically, as voters, we should be the auditors, but we don't have access to the info required to audit.

Boy George was punished and convicted for his crime, which was committed when he was addicted to class A drugs. The jury took that into account, and judged him accordingly

I and almost every person I know as a teen/early twenties has taken a class A drug at some point and yet have never kidnapped a vulnerable young boy and chained them up, beat them, held them hostage. You know the guy only got away because he managed to break the radiator he was chained to and not because he was let free? So he could have been kept prisoner for months/years for all we know. I don’t think kidnap and torture is a side effect of any class A drug.

Yes he actually got a custodial sentence which is pretty significant for our pathetic justice system, but was let out early for “good behaviour”. Our sentencing is a joke and an insult to victims.

I've audited companies prior to external audits.

I'm pretty sure that my dc would have called in the auditors if they had the option when I told them that they needed to study rather than go onto Snapchat (or whatever other ones they've hidden from me).

You try to elect people who you think will actually work in your best interests. The distrust comes when the elected ones work for their own personal interests.

Parliament is people we elect to be in charge of us. If you elect a dick, and he turns out to be a dick, we shouldn't really have to wait for another General Election to get rid of him.

I really think that you need to let this one go. Knowing BG (in as much as one can from afar), he will have paid compensation and he was served retribution. He has also been banged up (not entirely different to having chains on). He has gotten clean and has turned to spiritualism.

How long do you want to keep whipping him?

I really think that you need to let this one go.

EXCUSE ME??!! Why do I need to?! If a middle aged man kidnapped, chained up and abused a young woman would you have this attitude? I care more about victims than defending abusers.

Interestingly, my friends on Facebook are trying to prepare for a quiz.

They have posted a list of the names of a collection of different animals/birds/fish etc.

I was bemused to discover that it's 'a parliament of owls'. 😆

It didn't go down well when I suggested that the originations of that could never have derived from English!

Believe me, I've been the abused child and the abused woman.

You need to stop trying to punish him - that's not your job. He has paid a massive price.

A murder of crows is an interesting one though.

Yes !!!!

I agree with everything you have said Gooner. And @HelensToenail.

If he’d abused a female sex worker, you’d likely have never heard of it - let alone it resulting in a conviction. Can we please please stop with the ‘what if he abused a woman’ garbage, it’s irrelevant.

Yup. But what can you do? I get around all this by not watching telly.
All the funniest clips come up on Instagram anyway.

Putting people into CH's where they knew they would kill '000s isn't a mistake or a "nerves of steel" judgement call, it was a callous and successful attempt to make sure the NHS wasn't seen to be over run and thanks to people like you and despite 7.1m waiting for treatment, the Govt got away with with it.

The money he wasted on PPE & fraud would pay for an above inflation wage rise for NHS staff too.

If Hancock showed some contrition, then fair enough but he is there to make himself money from his book... any mention of his Dyslexia work he promised he would raise?

George is talentless & odious but he served his time and like most offenders, be given a 2nd chance.

Do you think all the elderly who were moved to the care homes that they were waiting for anyway would have fared better if they’d been kept in hospital? It’s twisted beyond belief to position this decision as a callous act, however much you detest the tories and however much you need to find someone to blame.

Wasn't there a responsibility to limit infections for the other care home residents?

Not sure you can read the attached but from Adam Kay’s new book. I think MH started out okay (Kay goes on to vilify him in later pages).

The care home thing was as a result of scenes from Italy and the concern hospitals would be very overwhelmed very quickly. It was the wrong call but it wasn’t made to purposely kill off people in care homes. There was also a lack of testing as we didn’t have the tests.

Yes he behaved in a nasty, grubby way but to say he alone killed thousands is daft.

I certainly wouldn’t vote for him, but he is coming across well and I like him a lot more than several others in there.

Re Parliament sitting, other MPs do take holidays … I mean Boris was away recently! It’s not ideal but he is raising is profile and creating a platform. I’ve literally never even seen my MP, wrote to him once and got a reply weeks and weeks later that was a copy and paste job.

I’d rather Jill won, but would be happy to see others kicked out before him!

Im surprised ITV bosses think its okay to pay the others shit loads of money to just sit around doing nothing, whats the point of them being there, none of them seem too bothered and seem quite happy not to get picked. its a bit rich that any of them could complain they only got 5 stars last night when it was the group who lost 2 stars by their silly coughing. If the public keep voting for Matt at least they should make them double tasks.

I can comment what I like thank you why do you think you’re in charge of this thread?