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Boy George is a more terrible person than Matt Hancock and I'm sick of people pretending he isn't

456 replies

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:18

Why does he get a pass for his brutal, clearly sexually motivated crime (he threatened the guy with whips and sex toys) and still have a career?

I'm so irritated I'm having to sound like I'm defending Hancock, a corrupt, inept Tory who cheated on his wife. He personifies everything wrong with Johnston's cabinet, but no he didn't kill thousands, Covid did. The decision to return vulnerable people from hospital to care homes was a terrible one, but we did the exact same thing in Scotland. He isn't a sex offender.

If Boy George had chained up a female sex worker and beat her with an iron bar and threatened to rape her with sex toys he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity to be on TV again.

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LaDamaDeElche · 12/11/2022 07:42

YeahThanks · 12/11/2022 07:27

So Boy George tortured one person, but Matt Hancock tortured thousands - it’s not an either or situation really.

He didn't though did he? He's not Putin. He didn't single-handedly make decisions. They acted on the advice the were given, as democratic governments do. It's not like as Health Secretary he got the final say on every decision made either. The thing he did wrong personally was to cheat on his wife, act in a sleazy manner and break social distancing laws. Plenty of people did and do those things without getting vilified.

HelensToenail · 12/11/2022 07:44

BG's crime was not sexually motivated - in his cocaine induced paranoia he believed that his victim had 'done something' to his computer

BG isn't a 'sex offender. His victim was a sex worker'

BG is now apparently drug-free and served a prison sentence for the offences above

Lilaaz · 12/11/2022 07:44

'I think rehabilitation is really important, but it does feel like prancing around in the jungle isn't really in the spirit of humble repentance.'

Exactly! We have drunk driver Ant sneering, BG sneering. It's all a bit pot and kettle.

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:45

Sux2buthen · 12/11/2022 07:39

People keep saying he wouldn't get work if it had been a woman but that's not true at all.
The adoration for Mike Tyson speaks volumes

I'm disgusted that Tyson has been forgiven too but he's largely an aberration. I HOPE he wouldn't be treated the same way had his crime been committed post Me Too.

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GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 07:46

YeahThanks · 12/11/2022 07:27

So Boy George tortured one person, but Matt Hancock tortured thousands - it’s not an either or situation really.

This ^.

BG was convicted and sent to prison for his crime – he did his time and expressed remorse for what he did, which was under the influence of a crippling drug addiction he worked hard to get clean from. Yet you think he's worse than a man who oversaw the deaths of 10s of thousands of people on his watch when he ordered elderly patients to be sent back into care homes knowing they were infected by Covid, who gave contracts worth billions to his mates and who broke the very rules he demanded we lived by for the best part of two years to have an affair behind his wife's back.

I know who the bigger villain is here and it's not BG.

Fieldfly · 12/11/2022 07:46

Yes, I don’t think Ant should be there n tv either. I’m guess there are some but I can’t think of any female celebs who’ve kept their jobs in family entertainment after similar violent actions / drug abuse.

Sux2buthen · 12/11/2022 07:46

Fieldfly · 12/11/2022 07:40

Sux2 - and Jonny depp

Not convicted and debatable (but I am not going to debate it, that ship has sailed Grin)
The others are convicted

lawofselfish · 12/11/2022 07:47

YeahThanks · 12/11/2022 07:27

So Boy George tortured one person, but Matt Hancock tortured thousands - it’s not an either or situation really.

Who did Matt Hancock 'torture'?

Lampzade · 12/11/2022 07:47

mossgreen · 12/11/2022 07:32

BG was a drug addict and has served prison time for his crime. Personally I do not think ex convicts should be paid to work in light entertainment but thats a separate issue. BG is self employed and this is a job for him. MH was being paid by taxpayers when he was groping his colleague and he is being paid now, on that show, whilst not doing his job. And he has been on celebrity SAS are you tough enough this year. They are totally separate issues but MH is ripping off all of us and trying to forge himself a new media career which I think is really grim.

This

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:48

HelensToenail · 12/11/2022 07:44

BG's crime was not sexually motivated - in his cocaine induced paranoia he believed that his victim had 'done something' to his computer

BG isn't a 'sex offender. His victim was a sex worker'

BG is now apparently drug-free and served a prison sentence for the offences above

While you're correct that he believed his victim had stolen photographs from his computer, he threatened the man with whips and a box of sex toys. He wasn't convicted of a sexual assault but if you threatened someone with rape then let's not pretend there's no sexual motivation.

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ShandaLear · 12/11/2022 07:49

They can both be utter wankers. You don’t need to pick one. They’re both awful excuses for human beings.

Izzy24 · 12/11/2022 07:49

LaDamaDeElche · 12/11/2022 07:42

He didn't though did he? He's not Putin. He didn't single-handedly make decisions. They acted on the advice the were given, as democratic governments do. It's not like as Health Secretary he got the final say on every decision made either. The thing he did wrong personally was to cheat on his wife, act in a sleazy manner and break social distancing laws. Plenty of people did and do those things without getting vilified.

Agree with this.

However I think it’s wrong that he’s there when he is currently an MP and should be available to his constituency.

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 07:50

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 07:46

This ^.

BG was convicted and sent to prison for his crime – he did his time and expressed remorse for what he did, which was under the influence of a crippling drug addiction he worked hard to get clean from. Yet you think he's worse than a man who oversaw the deaths of 10s of thousands of people on his watch when he ordered elderly patients to be sent back into care homes knowing they were infected by Covid, who gave contracts worth billions to his mates and who broke the very rules he demanded we lived by for the best part of two years to have an affair behind his wife's back.

I know who the bigger villain is here and it's not BG.

To add, I don't think either of them should be on the show and being paid for it. I just don't think BG is as reprehensible as MH. We lost two family friends in the pandemic, an elderly couple who died within a week of each other, and when I watched him laughing about 'next slide, please' I wanted to reach into the telly and rip his tiny head off.

Fieldfly · 12/11/2022 07:50

Sux - uk court found against jd.

Joshanddonna · 12/11/2022 07:51

You’re absolutely right.

lawofselfish · 12/11/2022 07:51

HelensToenail · 12/11/2022 07:44

BG's crime was not sexually motivated - in his cocaine induced paranoia he believed that his victim had 'done something' to his computer

BG isn't a 'sex offender. His victim was a sex worker'

BG is now apparently drug-free and served a prison sentence for the offences above

A rose by any other name

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/11/2022 07:51

Afterfire · 12/11/2022 07:39

Completely agree. George is a disgusting violent man. Drugs aren’t an excuse.

This. He's an absolute disgrace.

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 07:53

Fieldfly · 12/11/2022 07:46

Yes, I don’t think Ant should be there n tv either. I’m guess there are some but I can’t think of any female celebs who’ve kept their jobs in family entertainment after similar violent actions / drug abuse.

Kirsty Gallacher kept hers after a ban for drink driving.

Craigava · 12/11/2022 07:56

They're all a bit sneery about Matt Hancock but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I'm sure I remember Mike Tindall being banned for driving for a couple of years for drink driving. The reason George couldn't visit his mum in hospital wasn't because Matt was being mean in not allowing him to, it was to protect the sick. I had a family member in hospital and if I'd visited him and given him covid he would almost certainly have died.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/11/2022 07:58

The reason George couldn't visit his mum in hospital wasn't because Matt was being mean in not allowing him to, it was to protect the sick.

Exactly. It was to protect the vulnerable.

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 08:04

Craigava · 12/11/2022 07:56

They're all a bit sneery about Matt Hancock but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I'm sure I remember Mike Tindall being banned for driving for a couple of years for drink driving. The reason George couldn't visit his mum in hospital wasn't because Matt was being mean in not allowing him to, it was to protect the sick. I had a family member in hospital and if I'd visited him and given him covid he would almost certainly have died.

I don't think BG is upset because he thinks MH was mean putting in rules that prohibited him from seeing his mum. Pretty sure, like many of us, he's more furious that the Govt delayed lockdown because of Carrie's baby shower allowing the virus to spread in hospitals and then packed off infected patients back to care homes where it exploded. It's about the bigger picture, which MH as health secretary played a pivotal role in and now he's in the jungle eating sheep's arse and getting paid £400k and he wants our forgiveness? He can f* off. He's never getting it.

twelly · 12/11/2022 08:04

MH did not cause the pandemic, he was part of the team reacting to an unprecedented event. I don't agree with the way it was handled but I believe he did what he thought was best acting on advice. I feel sorry for those families who lost loved ones during the pandemic and for anyone who loses a loved one. I feel more sorry for the loss of those years for the young and the damage to their MH and life chances - that is not MH's fault.
I believe that most politicians want to make things better for people but have a different views ideology whilst their views on what is the ideal is different - I acknowledge that this can change and that ambition sometimes is not motivated by this.

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 08:05

I am honestly shocked at the attitudes towards MH on this thread. What short memories you have.

Izzy24 · 12/11/2022 08:10

twelly · 12/11/2022 08:04

MH did not cause the pandemic, he was part of the team reacting to an unprecedented event. I don't agree with the way it was handled but I believe he did what he thought was best acting on advice. I feel sorry for those families who lost loved ones during the pandemic and for anyone who loses a loved one. I feel more sorry for the loss of those years for the young and the damage to their MH and life chances - that is not MH's fault.
I believe that most politicians want to make things better for people but have a different views ideology whilst their views on what is the ideal is different - I acknowledge that this can change and that ambition sometimes is not motivated by this.

But he can’t do anything for his constituents while he’s in the jungle which is the reason I think he shouldn’t be there.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 12/11/2022 08:11

Matt threw millions at vaccine production. Pre-ordered many many vaccines so we were in with a chance of getting a decent working vaccine when they got approval.

I think some people remember a different pandemic to me.