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Boy George is a more terrible person than Matt Hancock and I'm sick of people pretending he isn't

456 replies

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:18

Why does he get a pass for his brutal, clearly sexually motivated crime (he threatened the guy with whips and sex toys) and still have a career?

I'm so irritated I'm having to sound like I'm defending Hancock, a corrupt, inept Tory who cheated on his wife. He personifies everything wrong with Johnston's cabinet, but no he didn't kill thousands, Covid did. The decision to return vulnerable people from hospital to care homes was a terrible one, but we did the exact same thing in Scotland. He isn't a sex offender.

If Boy George had chained up a female sex worker and beat her with an iron bar and threatened to rape her with sex toys he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity to be on TV again.

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KimWexlersPonyTail · 13/11/2022 17:11

It seems a bit off that BG got to keep his tv career going when Bruno Langley, who played sue cleavers son in Corrie, lost his career when he touched a woman in a club. Not defending him, just seems ITV not consistent. Wonder if Sue Cleaver is sitting there thinking that also!

Pumperthepumper · 13/11/2022 17:12

ilyx · 13/11/2022 17:01

I can comment what I like thank you why do you think you’re in charge of this thread?

I’m just asking you to think about those victims of violence you’re pretending to care so much about, instead of throwing them under a bus just to shut down an argument.

ilyx · 13/11/2022 17:20

Pumperthepumper · 13/11/2022 17:12

I’m just asking you to think about those victims of violence you’re pretending to care so much about, instead of throwing them under a bus just to shut down an argument.

EXCUSE ME??!! PRETENDING TO CARE?! You are revolting. The ONLY reason I dislike him is because of the poor victim, otherwise I barely know anything about the guy. I know it’s hard for you to understand as you clearly don’t have much empathy towards victims but I do. I also hate Harvey Weinstein, is that me “pretending to care” about his victims?! Honestly you need help. Most normal people with morals can’t look past something as horrific as kidnapping and beating someone.

Pumperthepumper · 13/11/2022 17:29

ilyx · 13/11/2022 17:20

EXCUSE ME??!! PRETENDING TO CARE?! You are revolting. The ONLY reason I dislike him is because of the poor victim, otherwise I barely know anything about the guy. I know it’s hard for you to understand as you clearly don’t have much empathy towards victims but I do. I also hate Harvey Weinstein, is that me “pretending to care” about his victims?! Honestly you need help. Most normal people with morals can’t look past something as horrific as kidnapping and beating someone.

You clearly don’t, when you’re trying to act like he somehow got an easy time because his victim was a man.

pilates · 13/11/2022 18:28

BG has turned to spiritualism and all is forgiven?
What a joke!
He’s not fooling me with all his chanting.

walkinginsunshinekat · 13/11/2022 19:11

PinkTonic · 13/11/2022 16:23

Do you think all the elderly who were moved to the care homes that they were waiting for anyway would have fared better if they’d been kept in hospital? It’s twisted beyond belief to position this decision as a callous act, however much you detest the tories and however much you need to find someone to blame.

Govt treated older people as expendable, out of sight out of mind, away from the camera's.

No they were not all waiting to be sent to CH's and of course would have been better off in a hospital setting or even the Nightingales but of course, there was no staff so putting them there wasn't an option - it would have shown that these overflow hospitals were PR, to show the gullible (like you) that the UK could match the world in building hospitals.

Why weren't CH's even told of the risks? they were sent anyway, reports at the time were that CH's were forced into taking them.

After the last 6 weeks of the Tories, anyone who still supports them is an idiot, we ve austerity 2.0 because of Truss & that'll lead to more deaths, just as the last time.

Readinginthesun · 13/11/2022 22:06

As the days go in , I dislike BG more and more . Not sure he is the right person to claim the moral high ground .

Legallypinkish · 13/11/2022 22:11

Agree. He’s also coming across really badly in there. Horrible little man.

Managinggenzoclock · 13/11/2022 22:36

I strongly suspect the other celebs don’t know about BG being a convicted sex offender or presumably they wouldn’t be quite so chummy.
Im not a Matt Hancock fan but his behaviour doesn’t come anywhere close to BG.

Not that this is the point but BG is also wildly unlikeable.

HappyHamsters · 13/11/2022 22:41

Readinginthesun · 13/11/2022 22:06

As the days go in , I dislike BG more and more . Not sure he is the right person to claim the moral high ground .

He is very mean spirited and two faced

BedTaker · 13/11/2022 22:44

I can't believe Boy George would ever try and claim moral high ground over MH. He seems absolutely vile.

lightisnotwhite · 13/11/2022 22:52

PacificState · 12/11/2022 07:40

I think I agree with you OP. I think rehabilitation is really important, but it does feel like prancing around in the jungle isn't really in the spirit of humble repentance.

I wonder whether there's a really basic human dynamic in play here, which is that BG's public persona is one that the public (generally) just likes - scampish, irreverent, witty. Whereas Hancock is try-hard, self-regarding, pompous and nerdy. There's a collective urge to bully Hancock, whereas we all intuitively know that if we tried to bully BG he would eviscerate us without breaking sweat.

Wouldn't want either of them round my house for dinner, for different reasons, and the show just sounds incredibly shitty. (And millions of people watch it and probably have to take some share of the responsibility for these reprobates forcing their way back into everyone's consciousness.)

It’s this. Pop ( cool) wins over politics ( always wrong). Nothing to to with the character of the man.
I can’t imagine MH being physically violent.

lightisnotwhite · 13/11/2022 22:55

pilates · 13/11/2022 18:28

BG has turned to spiritualism and all is forgiven?
What a joke!
He’s not fooling me with all his chanting.

He was spiritual before the assault. He was already a Buddhist. So that worked out well. The blokes just completely self absorbed.

Miss03852 · 14/11/2022 00:18

People seem to forget aswell that the man wasn’t actually set free by BG, he managed to break the radiator he was tied to, so we have no idea how long he was intending to keep him captive. It could have been years like many other kidnapping victims!

pilates · 14/11/2022 06:59

Well BG hasn’t done very well then:

The Buddhist precepts are commitments to abstain from killing living beings, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying and intoxication.

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PinkTonic · 14/11/2022 07:15

walkinginsunshinekat · 13/11/2022 19:11

Govt treated older people as expendable, out of sight out of mind, away from the camera's.

No they were not all waiting to be sent to CH's and of course would have been better off in a hospital setting or even the Nightingales but of course, there was no staff so putting them there wasn't an option - it would have shown that these overflow hospitals were PR, to show the gullible (like you) that the UK could match the world in building hospitals.

Why weren't CH's even told of the risks? they were sent anyway, reports at the time were that CH's were forced into taking them.

After the last 6 weeks of the Tories, anyone who still supports them is an idiot, we ve austerity 2.0 because of Truss & that'll lead to more deaths, just as the last time.

Disagreeing with you doesn’t make people gullible. The assumption that it does makes you breathtakingly arrogant.

walkinginsunshinekat · 14/11/2022 07:34

Well, you d then have to ask why were millions spent on Nightingales but never used for their intended purpose? i remember at the time NHS workers on here saying we don't have the staff or the equipment for them.
Anyone who still believes the Govt built them for our benefit/safety is gullible but thats beyond the scope of this thread.

So we are left with an awful man who went to jail for sexual abuse and kidnap VS a man who wrecked his family, told us all to lockdown or you'll kill Granny- whilst doing the opposite and took decisions which led to the deaths of 10s of '000s ?

itsgettingweird · 14/11/2022 07:42

Readinginthesun · 13/11/2022 22:06

As the days go in , I dislike BG more and more . Not sure he is the right person to claim the moral high ground .

This.

He seems extremely gleeful about others downfalls and extremely judgemental over others - yet forgets he's not a angel of virtue himself.

Imagine if his past actions had ruined his career?

Jourdain11 · 14/11/2022 09:00

Matt Hancock made some bad calls in the pandemic, but I think you could argue that it was an impossible situation. People referring to the schools closure fiasco in Jan 21 - I doubt Hancock had a great say in these decisions and also, public and union pressure had much to do with the u-turn. I strongly suspect that the enquiry will show that school closures were not justified on a damage/effectiveness basis.

Yeah, I agree that he should not be doing it while parliament sits and I hope he forfeits his wages for the period and that he has made robust plans for his office to deal with constituency business. However, some parliamentarians attendance records are a thing to behold and they don't even have an excuse. The SNP members are bad in this regard!

Ittakesavineyard · 14/11/2022 09:15

I really do agree. BG is vile and as a convicted criminal should not be on the show.

Unpopular opinion, I like Matt Hancock as he’s coming across on the show. He’s funny without meaning to be and I think he’s just a normal guy. He made a mistake in breaking lockdown guidance as did many others but apologised, resigned and humiliated.
he is not responsible for Covid and the deaths, he was merely a messenger and the face of it. Hindsight it a wonderful thing.

Readinginthesun · 14/11/2022 09:16

Jourdain11 · 14/11/2022 09:00

Matt Hancock made some bad calls in the pandemic, but I think you could argue that it was an impossible situation. People referring to the schools closure fiasco in Jan 21 - I doubt Hancock had a great say in these decisions and also, public and union pressure had much to do with the u-turn. I strongly suspect that the enquiry will show that school closures were not justified on a damage/effectiveness basis.

Yeah, I agree that he should not be doing it while parliament sits and I hope he forfeits his wages for the period and that he has made robust plans for his office to deal with constituency business. However, some parliamentarians attendance records are a thing to behold and they don't even have an excuse. The SNP members are bad in this regard!

I agree with this . MH was the face of Covid but it was collective responsibility and it was an unprecedented situation.
He wasn’t the only one who made bad decisions- if Sturgeon had her way we would probably still be locked down !

Ittakesavineyard · 14/11/2022 09:17

Fieldfly · 12/11/2022 17:16

My 12 year old just said ‘people hate MH because they are grieving and they need to have someone to blame and be angry with’.

I think she is wiser than the grown ups who imagine that MH on his own deliberately chose to do mean things just to harm people. They have forgotten the uncertainty and fear at the start, the pictures from Italy where they having to choose who to help, they fact that we thought hospitals would be overwhelmed, that we needed huge amounts of ppe (we just needed it fast, no time for tenders etc), that we didn’t know how it spread, we had no way of testing, that people were very worried that young people might die due to lack of oxygen in full hospitals. They don’t seem to realise that ministers make decisions based on advice and collectively with the cabinet. His competence and his affair are entirely separate matters.

Very wise words!

Ittakesavineyard · 14/11/2022 09:17

Also yes, Chris Moyles doesn’t come across as a pleasant person.

Readinginthesun · 14/11/2022 09:29

Ittakesavineyard · 14/11/2022 09:17

Also yes, Chris Moyles doesn’t come across as a pleasant person.

I have already said similar ! Has everyone forgotten his sexist , homophobic comments? I bet Charlotte Church and Nicola Roberts haven’t. His bullying of Neil Fox ? His tax evasion. ?

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