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Boy George is a more terrible person than Matt Hancock and I'm sick of people pretending he isn't

456 replies

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:18

Why does he get a pass for his brutal, clearly sexually motivated crime (he threatened the guy with whips and sex toys) and still have a career?

I'm so irritated I'm having to sound like I'm defending Hancock, a corrupt, inept Tory who cheated on his wife. He personifies everything wrong with Johnston's cabinet, but no he didn't kill thousands, Covid did. The decision to return vulnerable people from hospital to care homes was a terrible one, but we did the exact same thing in Scotland. He isn't a sex offender.

If Boy George had chained up a female sex worker and beat her with an iron bar and threatened to rape her with sex toys he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity to be on TV again.

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ilyx · 12/11/2022 12:16

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 10:16

And why do people keep saying they couldn't visit loved ones in hospital, there was a pandemic! It was to reduce the risk of spread.

You're missing the point. The public did adhere to these rules and not visiting their loved ones as they were dying, while politicians like Matt Hancock blithely carried on with their lives as though the rules didn't apply to them. That's where the anger comes from.

Yes he had an affair with someone he was already in constant close contact with through work. If she’d of had covid even without the affair he’d have caught it from her if they were working together. So it’s not like he was sneaking around to a random persons house risking catching and spreading covid.

Readinginthesun · 12/11/2022 12:18

derxa · 12/11/2022 12:09

totally agree

Also agree .
I am also surprised that no one seems to be uncomfortable about the way Chris Moyles is behaving towards lovely Owen . Blatantly lying to him about his “ achievements” is mocking Owen’s supposed lack of intelligence. Not nice . But then he has previous - Nicola Roberts.

Parkinglotlatte · 12/11/2022 12:20

Can't stand Matt Hancock but the decision to send people back to care homes was because they expected the hosptials to be absolutely overwhelmed and decided that they couldn't allow people in their 20s/30s and 40s etc. to be denied beds over those at the end of their lives. It wasn't an evil decision to kill old people. They had to make tough decisions and I believe any government in power at that time would have done the same.

Ariela · 12/11/2022 12:22

I am concerned about the fact that the people in charge of our government allow people they work with to get away with so many disclosures, photos, and video clips (and not just of partygate, affairs etc) to the press.

WHERE ELSE ARE THEY LEAKING INFO TO, and WHAT INFO are they leaking to the Russians? Why has there been no visible investigation and clamp down into this?

Gemmanorthdevon · 12/11/2022 12:30

Driving me mad also.

He was a shit husband. He worked for a completely incompetent government, and was totally incapable of doing the job he had. He made decisions without the knowledge to ensure they were the right ones. He didn't personally kill our Mother's and fathers. Covid did.

Throughout all of Covid. I was just so grateful I wasn't in Murica! ( christ! ) or China where they were breaking in and dragging people out of their homes to be isolated under lock and key for weeks. I could go on, but our experiences in the UK however hard, was nothing compared to what other nations went through.

BG personally degraded, humiliated and sexually tortured somebodies son?!

RangerHamzaHasTheRangeDarling · 12/11/2022 12:32

YABU for starting another thread about this when there is already "Boy George is a tool" in Chat and I think another one besides.
Given Matt Hancock's adviser and PR are allegedly sending unsolicited whatsapps of positive tweets about MH to journalists/trying to persuade them that George is the bigger story here, it is frustrating to see the GBP and posters on here being manipulated.

Do not give either of them airtime ffs
Do not vote for either
Do not give either the oxygen of publicity

greenhousegal · 12/11/2022 12:39

I have to laugh at people who complain that this or that person is mad,bad, whatever and how can they possibly be on TV given all they have done.

But these people follow these shows and thus give publicity to them. Baffled.

HappyHamsters · 12/11/2022 12:40

CalamityClam · 12/11/2022 08:21

So this year we have;
Boy George - criminal record
Matt and Sean - cheaters
Mike and Ant - drink driving convictions
Chris Moyles - vile on-air behaviour (Charlotte Church/ Nick Grimshaw)

it’s not really a great group of blokes is it?
Saying that, I’m enjoying watching it and I think they need to leave Matt alone.

The lioness 🦁 to win for me, but I bet it will be one of those blokes.

Wasnt Sue banned for drink driving too

pilates · 12/11/2022 12:45

^
yes she was prosecuted for drink driving

ilyx · 12/11/2022 12:46

greenhousegal · 12/11/2022 12:39

I have to laugh at people who complain that this or that person is mad,bad, whatever and how can they possibly be on TV given all they have done.

But these people follow these shows and thus give publicity to them. Baffled.

Yes because a lot of people watch the show every year no matter who’s on it. They don’t watch it BECAUSE someone who’s done bad things is on it.

HappyHamsters · 12/11/2022 12:46

I find and and dec quite bullying in the way they think CM is funny by deliberately trying to make Owen look a fool

ajandjjmum · 12/11/2022 13:37

Babybomb · 12/11/2022 08:34

The reason people are pissed off with the not being able to visit sick relatives in hospital - is that while they abided by the rules to protect their loved ones and other people - some politicians did whatever the fuck they liked - having affairs, after work drinkees, traipsing around the country visiting friends and family. It's the hypocrisy that people are angry about.

An awful lot of 'normal' people broke the guidelines too, and took great delight in explaining how and why.

PinkTonic · 12/11/2022 13:57

Parkinglotlatte · 12/11/2022 12:20

Can't stand Matt Hancock but the decision to send people back to care homes was because they expected the hosptials to be absolutely overwhelmed and decided that they couldn't allow people in their 20s/30s and 40s etc. to be denied beds over those at the end of their lives. It wasn't an evil decision to kill old people. They had to make tough decisions and I believe any government in power at that time would have done the same.

Hospitals full of covid patients were also quite rightly deemed to be an unsafe place for elderly people who did not need medical care but were in hospital waiting for decisions/funding to move them into appropriate care, so much of the normal red tape which is the cause of this type of delay was removed. Widespread testing did not yet exist and I’m not convinced that so early on it was known that the virus spread asymptotically. It’s all very well people getting on their high horses now but there were always going to be hard decisions to make. Some people seem to have a very naive and unrealistic view of what was possible in the circumstances.

Lilaaz · 12/11/2022 14:15

PinkTonic · 12/11/2022 13:57

Hospitals full of covid patients were also quite rightly deemed to be an unsafe place for elderly people who did not need medical care but were in hospital waiting for decisions/funding to move them into appropriate care, so much of the normal red tape which is the cause of this type of delay was removed. Widespread testing did not yet exist and I’m not convinced that so early on it was known that the virus spread asymptotically. It’s all very well people getting on their high horses now but there were always going to be hard decisions to make. Some people seem to have a very naive and unrealistic view of what was possible in the circumstances.

Yes imagine if they'd kept all the elderly people in hospital, they'd all have caught covid anyway. In hindsight it was a lose lose situation, but they thought they were getting them out into what was supposed to be a safer place to give them a better chance.

Still puzzles me why MH gets constant abuse for this but Sturgeon doesn't. If Labour had have been in they'd have done the same thing too! Visiting was then restricted to try and keep people safe.

Colleagues at work whether you shared an office with them or had affairs with them was not the same as visiting vulnerable relatives.

CornishGem1975 · 12/11/2022 14:28

MH is guilty of the unforgivable crime of being 1. a Tory 2. in Government at the time of a horrific pandemic. He didn’t torture anyone. His behaviour towards his wife is not our business and on the scale of abhorrent acts, cheating on your wife is lower down for me than drunk driving.

Yes @PinkTonic Honestly, it boils my piss that Ant has got away scot-free. He should have lost his job in the way Caroline Flack did.

I am not a Tory or a Matt Hancock fan but I just can't get worked up about him and what's he done.

Aubree17 · 12/11/2022 14:34

pilates · 12/11/2022 12:45

^
yes she was prosecuted for drink driving

Unbelievable. So quick to criticise MH as well.

ilyx · 12/11/2022 14:36

Aubree17 · 12/11/2022 14:34

Unbelievable. So quick to criticise MH as well.

Mike Tindall also has two drink driving convictions but for some reason is protected by the press

itsjustnotok · 12/11/2022 14:41

@YeahThanks I love how now that we have hindsight, that we can judge what happened over covid like we would have done better. I don’t think there’s a single country that got it ‘right’. They followed the science and what happened was shit - no doubt about it. But do people honestly think that MP’s thoughts were ‘how can we piss off the nation and kill off more people’? I don’t disagree that some actions were unacceptable but let’s not pretend that Matt Hancock was all alone making these decisions cos it was fun.

HappyHamsters · 12/11/2022 14:42

ilyx · 12/11/2022 14:36

Mike Tindall also has two drink driving convictions but for some reason is protected by the press

It was all over the press back in 2009 when it happened, it seems quite a few of this years celebs have quite a lot in common. Having Ant there after his conviction and affair sets the bar pretty low anyway.

ilyx · 12/11/2022 14:44

Chris Moyles is also a tax dodger who used schemes to avoid paying any tax. Who is he to judge anyone?

itsjustnotok · 12/11/2022 14:44

@PinkTonic agree with you. We went in blind and whilst i do think some decisions were poor, I also think we have the value of hindsight and it never seems to take long for us to pass judgement on something that not one country got 100% right. Who could really? Someone wouldn’t be happy somewhere regardless of the decisions.

Mosik · 12/11/2022 14:51

LemonsAndCherries · 12/11/2022 10:35

I'm not a Matt Hancock fan either but the care home return was a bad decision. It wasn't his alone and not made with knowledge of the circumstances.

In March this year (2022) people were still dying alone in ICU allowed visitors only once a week due to Covid. Bad decisions go way beyond all being Hancock's fault. As for PPE, they were desperate. Yes, they used people they knew and readily available. The fault there was not checking they were actually useable. I think people need to remember how scary and uncertain the situation in March-May 2020 was.

This.
If he had the benefit of hindsight at the time like we all have now then I don't doubt he would have acted differently. It's wrong to accuse him of deliberately causing harm.
The only exception is the cheating his wife. But many 1000s of people do that every day and aren't considered criminals.

pilates · 12/11/2022 15:04

Yes CM is an unsavoury character too. I believe Charlotte Church and Will Young have both been the subject of abuse from him.

Lurkerlot · 12/11/2022 15:06

Hardly surprising given Popbitch claims that Matt Hancock’s press team have been hitting up journalists and correspondents to see if they can stir up a little more press interest in Boy George’s previous conviction to deflect some of the heat their boy is taking.

Popbitch seems to have moved on though and is more interested in the MP who ran rings around Matt Hancock in lockdown, by managing to juggle not one, not two, but three concurrent affairs (a set-up which came crashing down after it turned out all three of the women knew one another)??? Scurrilous.

magma32 · 12/11/2022 15:09

Completely agree and I’ve never voted Tory.