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Boy George is a more terrible person than Matt Hancock and I'm sick of people pretending he isn't

456 replies

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:18

Why does he get a pass for his brutal, clearly sexually motivated crime (he threatened the guy with whips and sex toys) and still have a career?

I'm so irritated I'm having to sound like I'm defending Hancock, a corrupt, inept Tory who cheated on his wife. He personifies everything wrong with Johnston's cabinet, but no he didn't kill thousands, Covid did. The decision to return vulnerable people from hospital to care homes was a terrible one, but we did the exact same thing in Scotland. He isn't a sex offender.

If Boy George had chained up a female sex worker and beat her with an iron bar and threatened to rape her with sex toys he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity to be on TV again.

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ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 08:11

HelensToenail · 12/11/2022 07:44

BG's crime was not sexually motivated - in his cocaine induced paranoia he believed that his victim had 'done something' to his computer

BG isn't a 'sex offender. His victim was a sex worker'

BG is now apparently drug-free and served a prison sentence for the offences above

You are correct! A voice of reason

Afterfire · 12/11/2022 08:11

GoonerGirl5231 · 12/11/2022 08:05

I am honestly shocked at the attitudes towards MH on this thread. What short memories you have.

I think most people are aware enough to realise politicians- especially those at MHs level - are puppets. They aren’t making the rules, they’re presenting them to us. Honestly I can’t stand the man, he’s a bit of a weasel professionally and personally, but he was led by others making policy. I think those who have drunk driven, beaten someone and so on have far more to answer for than a man who did what he was told to do in a very difficult job at a very difficult time.

BlueWalnut · 12/11/2022 08:12

Neither should be on TV and I won’t be watching. They can both fade away to obscurity as far as I’m concerned.

HelensToenail · 12/11/2022 08:13

CallMeNutribullet · 12/11/2022 07:48

While you're correct that he believed his victim had stolen photographs from his computer, he threatened the man with whips and a box of sex toys. He wasn't convicted of a sexual assault but if you threatened someone with rape then let's not pretend there's no sexual motivation.

I don't think that you understand what 'sexually motivated crime' means using threats of sexual harm doesn't make the crime sexually motivated.

He's a loathsome character for sure - his victim still suffers with psychological problems and BG whilst expressing general remorse hasn't actually apologised to him in all these years

Though TBH it didn't seem like he had a particularly good recall which isn't surprising considering the amount of cocaine he had taken and his ongoing paranoid illness'

CrapBucket · 12/11/2022 08:13

I didn't know about Boy George's crime - I am shocked.

I think Matt Hancock will continue to do whatever he wants to and then apologise afterwards. If my (already rich) MP was tatting about in the jungle I'd be livid. He should be doing the job he is paid for. I also can't help thinking he must be letting his kids down. They have been disrupted by his affair and now he's out of the country for a big chunk of time. Hardly making them a priority.

Lozzybear · 12/11/2022 08:13

Every time someone complains about not being able to see their family when they were in hospital during COVID lockdowns I want to scream. There were a number of occasions in when I couldn’t see my terminally ill mum
hospital because they closed the ward/hospital to visitors…in 2011/12. If something like norovirus breaks out, they lock
down. Happened before COVID, will happen after COVID. COVID was just on a much bigger scale. Does anyone know if there’s this level of resentment in other countries? For example Spain, where they locked children away.

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 08:14

@HelensToenail

How do you know BG hasn't apologised? How?

Feysriana · 12/11/2022 08:15

I agree but what’s even worse is that apparently he only spent four months in prison?! For tying someone up keeping them against their will and beating them with a metal chain?

Wtf.

HelensToenail · 12/11/2022 08:15

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 08:14

@HelensToenail

How do you know BG hasn't apologised? How?

His victim says so and I believe him

bloodyplanes · 12/11/2022 08:15

I completely agree op! Boy George is vile! The real reason he's got the hump about Matt Hancock being in there is because matt will be getting more airtime and more public attention than him!

mpeople · 12/11/2022 08:16

@Afterfire What about handing contracts to financially benefit his friends…?

Are you saying that MH ISNT responsible for the care home fiasco? If not him then, who…? He was Health Secretary…

Integrity is about doing the right thing ESPECIALLY SO when times are hard…. The above behaviours don’t say integrity to me.

reachforthebloodymary · 12/11/2022 08:16

I dont think you can compare. The two, Boy George is a criminal, he was convicted and has done his time

Hancock, has not been convicted of anything, he had an affair, but I believe that is for him and his wife.

He failed the British public, when it came to covid, he lied, he got rich off certain things he did, he gave contracts to his friends, he is being paid for being an MP while being in the jungle, the government of which he has been an MP for the entire 12 years has shat on this country and he persuambly supports most if not all of their decisions. Those are the things I think he is an utter shit for,

But I can think 2 people are complete shits for different things

PuppyMonkey · 12/11/2022 08:17

I think the whole problem with Matt Hancock is… it’s too soon. Perhaps everyone does deserve a chance at rehabilitation, but maybe waiting 15 years after the incident is more appropriate.

Afterfire · 12/11/2022 08:17

George is still an extremely arrogant, nasty man. Did anyone hear when he was talking about not being able to see his mum and he said he “used his name”? As if once they knew who he was they should have let him in?! What a complete arse.

Sux2buthen · 12/11/2022 08:19

Fieldfly · 12/11/2022 07:50

Sux - uk court found against jd.

He's not convicted of a violent crime

Rowthe · 12/11/2022 08:19

ShandaLear · 12/11/2022 07:49

They can both be utter wankers. You don’t need to pick one. They’re both awful excuses for human beings.

This.

They are both awful. I dont have a single good thing to say about either of them. And its disgusting Matt has been given a platform to try and redeem himself.

Prior to the show there was a thread.- Matt Hancock bingo.

Hes already said at least 2 of them, including " I only fell in love"

Not sure if hes come out with- "We were following the evidence " yet.

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 08:20

@HelensToenail
Well when did you last speak to his victim?

ohyouknowwhatshername · 12/11/2022 08:21

reachforthebloodymary · 12/11/2022 08:16

I dont think you can compare. The two, Boy George is a criminal, he was convicted and has done his time

Hancock, has not been convicted of anything, he had an affair, but I believe that is for him and his wife.

He failed the British public, when it came to covid, he lied, he got rich off certain things he did, he gave contracts to his friends, he is being paid for being an MP while being in the jungle, the government of which he has been an MP for the entire 12 years has shat on this country and he persuambly supports most if not all of their decisions. Those are the things I think he is an utter shit for,

But I can think 2 people are complete shits for different things

I agree with you.

Can I add Chris Moyles into the mix too? Apparently he had a countdown on his show to when Charlotte Church was going to turn 16. So he could "take her virginity". Another abhorrent man.

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 08:21

PuppyMonkey · 12/11/2022 08:17

I think the whole problem with Matt Hancock is… it’s too soon. Perhaps everyone does deserve a chance at rehabilitation, but maybe waiting 15 years after the incident is more appropriate.

You have a point

CalamityClam · 12/11/2022 08:21

So this year we have;
Boy George - criminal record
Matt and Sean - cheaters
Mike and Ant - drink driving convictions
Chris Moyles - vile on-air behaviour (Charlotte Church/ Nick Grimshaw)

it’s not really a great group of blokes is it?
Saying that, I’m enjoying watching it and I think they need to leave Matt alone.

The lioness 🦁 to win for me, but I bet it will be one of those blokes.

Afterfire · 12/11/2022 08:22

mpeople · 12/11/2022 08:16

@Afterfire What about handing contracts to financially benefit his friends…?

Are you saying that MH ISNT responsible for the care home fiasco? If not him then, who…? He was Health Secretary…

Integrity is about doing the right thing ESPECIALLY SO when times are hard…. The above behaviours don’t say integrity to me.

No one can be naive enough to think MH was responsible for the policies he’s getting strung up for during covid, surely. He may have discussed them but ultimately I’m sure those policies came from higher up. That doesn’t mean he’s not an utterly shite politician. I think he was unfortunate enough to end up in a very high profile position due to covid when he thought it would be a nice, easy job - he was an MP from Suffolk (which is where I live!) and no doubt didn’t imagine he’d ever be as high profile as he became. None of us could have predicted covid.

He has made many, many mistakes. But he’s not a violent man. I can never, ever forgive violence (except in extreme self defence obviously).

Sparklfairy · 12/11/2022 08:23

People only really care about the things that directly affect them. Everyone had a really shit 2+ years with COVID and Hancock was the poster boy for all the decisions whether he directly made them or not.

Throw in the hypocrisy of breaking his own rules so he can cheat on his wife while everyone else suffered, then yes, people care more.

There is a lot of public rage at the unfairness of Partygate etc still.

Sex workers are often victims of crime and get overlooked and ignored. At the time the early Yorkshire ripper murders were very much "oh it doesn't affect me as I'm not a sex worker" and the usual victim blaming. Little has changed.

Rowthe · 12/11/2022 08:23

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/11/2022 07:58

The reason George couldn't visit his mum in hospital wasn't because Matt was being mean in not allowing him to, it was to protect the sick.

Exactly. It was to protect the vulnerable.

They killed lots in Care Home by forcing Care Homes to accept residents who had not been tested for Covid early on un the pandemic.

I'm not going to go through a month by month analysis of all the harm they caused there isnt any point.

It's a disgrace Matt Hancock is prancing around on I'm a celebrity.

Soontobe60 · 12/11/2022 08:25

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 07:34

Why shouldn't ex convicts be given a go? Stop stigmatising them!

There’s a huge difference between stigmatising a sex offender and glorifying one, which is what’s happening to BG. Nobody should be prevented from earning a living - but him being celebrated for being a ‘celebrity’ on national TV? Nah, totally disgusting.
MH may have behaved despicably, but he was doing what he believed was right at the time, as did many politicians around the world who are still in those top positions of power. He hasn’t been found guilty of a crime and spent time in prison.

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 12/11/2022 08:25

So Mike and Ant also have a criminal record?