Call the midwife 2!

[Toddlerteaplease]

Wow. I've never filled a thread before!

@Rockbird

Tim went to uni in the last episode of the last series. So if he was nearly 19 then he could just about squeeze into 20 now I guess.

Wasn't Tim ill as a young child (polio?) It might be that he repeated a year at school?

When Dr Turner was on the train and the tea lady mentioned he'd done the forceps on her delivery, then there was that moment before he recognised her, I turned to DH and we both said "he didn't recognise her face 😂"

@MyOtherProfile

I don't think it is based on the Hither Green crash because the details of that are really different.

It's a shame they felt they needed drama like the crash. The strength of the programme used to be in the relationship and story of each woman they worked with as midwives.

A train crash is a good way if a cull of characters is needed....I’m guessing at least 2 will die😳

Just catching up now. Tim is taking very well for someone with glandular fever. I did t speak for a week. When I had it and out patients sound like they have golf balls down their throats.

I qualified as a nurse in 2003, all I needed to do my 3 year diploma was 5 GCSEs including maths and English. I was given a bursary of £440 a month which was enough to pay the rent in a student house.

The Tory Government scrapped the bursary and made it a degree only course. This has basically shut nursing off as a career to thousands ( ??millions) of women and men.

Its one of the many ways they've run the NHS down.

You could get a full grant for University in the 60s and no tuition fees (which continued until the late 90s). It was a great time for working class people being able to go to university as long as they had parental support to pass the 11 plus and go to Grammar School and didn't have to leave at 16 for financial reasons. You didn't have to be wealthy.

I was at secondary school from 85 and just missed grammar school by one mark. No tutors or extra training in those days.
I went to uni in 1993 and didn’t pay a penny in grants or the like but my maintenance grant didn’t cover the rent so my parents had to pay. Your grant was based on your parents earnings.

@Girliefriendlikespuppies same here. I qualified in 2004. I lived at home. Do never been as well
Of as when I was a student! Struggling to get funding to top up to a degree. And to be honest don't really want one!

I didn't need maths though. Thank Goodness because I'm terrible at it.

I'm not happy about a train crash - too soap opera for CTM . And that bloody rook or raven was ridiculous.

I agree that it's not looking good for sister J. It feels like she's been squeezed out of the storylines completely. I mean 2 midwives down and she hasn't joined them visiting patients?

@Girliefriendlikespuppies

I qualified as a nurse in 2003, all I needed to do my 3 year diploma was 5 GCSEs including maths and English. I was given a bursary of £440 a month which was enough to pay the rent in a student house.

The Tory Government scrapped the bursary and made it a degree only course. This has basically shut nursing off as a career to thousands ( ??millions) of women and men.

Its one of the many ways they've run the NHS down.

The move to make nursing a university qualification happened across many countries, and I think it was driven to some extent by nurse's unions. It was here in Canada, anyway. It was felt my many that if they professionalized nursing in that way that nurses would be able to demand more money and respect. There were similar things happening in a lot of sectors.

In hindsight I think it was mostly a bad idea, for the reason you say among others. But I seriously doubt if a non-Tory government would have done anything differently.

@LosingTheWill2022

I'm not happy about a train crash - too soap opera for CTM . And that bloody rook or raven was ridiculous.

I agree that it's not looking good for sister J. It feels like she's been squeezed out of the storylines completely. I mean 2 midwives down and she hasn't joined them visiting patients?

She's been a bit weird for two, maybe three seasons? Sometimes she says really odd things and she seems to look upset most of the time.

I have been thinking - it sometimes feels to me like they don't know what to do with the nun characters. Sister MJ is a bit of a cartoon at this point, Sister Hilda very underused. They've done a bit more with Sister Frances, but not a lot.

I suppose in some ways they are not the ones who are going to be having romances and all that sort of thing, but I always felt we got to know them better in the past.

I really disliked the way the train crash was filmed. The directing was really off kilter. And it just looked really cheap and amateurish. Instead of trying to build dramatic tension with the sleepy train driver and atmospheric music they'd have been better off doing a brief shot of the train going through the red light and focused the camera on Nancy getting buffeted around in the toilet, then had her exiting to scene of carnage The wide shot of sister Julien and Doctor Turner sat either side of the table looking towards the camera just look weird, I can't put my finger on exactly why, only that it just looked wrong.

@LosingTheWill2022

I'm not happy about a train crash - too soap opera for CTM . And that bloody rook or raven was ridiculous.

I agree that it's not looking good for sister J. It feels like she's been squeezed out of the storylines completely. I mean 2 midwives down and she hasn't joined them visiting patients?

For a couple of series all she seems to do is sit behind a desk looking condescending.

Surely when the driver started fitting, he'd have let go of the deadman's handle and the train would have stopped.

@Toddlerteaplease

Surely when the driver started fitting, he'd have let go of the deadman's handle and the train would have stopped.

Oh, good point

The yrs

The train crash storyline is completely ridiculous!!! There was a lot of eye rolling here... even my MIL who adores CTM (retired midwife in her 80s) was laughing it was so bonkers.

@Toddlerteaplease

Surely when the driver started fitting, he'd have let go of the deadman's handle and the train would have stopped.

But when was the dead man's handle introduced?

@5foot5 in the 1800s ....I just googled it

[quote Kitkat151]@5foot5 in the 1800s ....I just googled it[/quote]
Right! Bit of a plot hole then.

I think it was introduced when trains stopped having firemen. Apparently the first diesel locomotives had two people in the cab for this reason. So I would think they were in place by 1967.

bit of a funny one,
the sister who was caring for the 16 year old,
wife of Dr Turner randomly said, you seem to be in a hurry,
yes she said, she is moving out soon,

however she hadnt Seemed to be in a hurry,
that is my critique,
it is not like the acting is live and they couldntt do another take, must have been the crazy writing.

Yes, I see what you mean. The foster mum seemed not to want her to move out. Surely she'd have been able to keep her longer if she was vulnerable.

Surely she'd have been able to keep her longer if she was vulnerable

Sadly similar neglect of teens still happening
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60360891.amp

I think Carole wanted her own place, and at 16 she couldn't be made to stay in foster care. With two small babies I imagine she'll end up in Chummy's mother and baby home (or the Turners will decide another baby or two is just the thing to pep them up post train crash).