Call the midwife 2!

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Wow. I've never filled a thread before!

Also my guess is that Sr Julienne might die and Sr Hilda will step up as her replacement. I hope not though, Sr Julienne is the centre of Nonnatus House. I doubt Dr Turner will die. He's too Dr Turner to die. He'll come around in the carriage, diagnose his own injuries and give detailed instructions to the paramedics.

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

No way would a train from Chelmsford to Liverpool Street go that far 'east' (to Poplar). That is surely wrong?

It seemed entirely incongruous that the Turner children would go to a private school, given how enmeshed in the community they are.

Church schools tended to have a uniform back then although most Primary schools didn't. The Grammar School I went to from 1966 (not fee-paying) had a very expensive uniform only available from one shop. I didn't realise until much later that my parents must have made sacrifices to provide it and I wasn't very grateful because it was hideous.

Captain I would have given my last Mandy annual to wear a hat as part of the school uniform! It just looked so proper and lovely. Unfortunately I went to a totally ordinary primary school.

@Hellosunshiner

Captain I would have given my last Mandy annual to wear a hat as part of the school uniform! It just looked so proper and lovely. Unfortunately I went to a totally ordinary primary school.

You would have hated it if you had to wear it.

Captain I would definitely not! I was a romantically minded youngster who loved all things traditional and timely and appreciated things like hats and gloves. Not just in a passing phase at secondary school kind of way, but from being very young. I think I was born in the wrong era!

I get that they could be at a church school but not aware 'state' uniforms would ever have included straw boaters?

There seemed to be a lot of leather satchels on display yesterday. Roberta had one too.

What's ICP by the way?

CaptainMyCaptain your school hats sound exactly like mine! Manchester?

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

I get that they could be at a church school but not aware 'state' uniforms would ever have included straw boaters?

There seemed to be a lot of leather satchels on display yesterday. Roberta had one too.

What's ICP by the way?

But church schools aren't/weren't necessarily fee paying. Mine wasn't.

@Clawdy

CaptainMyCaptain your school hats sound exactly like mine! Manchester?

Berkshire.

www.etsy.com/uk/listing/216489211/1970s-vintage-school-felt-hat-vintage?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_uk_en_gb_-accessories-domestic_med&utm_custom1=k_f618a445e76d15db500cc64ff996e9ad_k&utm_content=bing_408847089_1297424026799234_81089067322686_pla-4584688616641336:pla-4584688616641336_c__216489211engb&utm_custom2=408847089&msclkid=f618a445e76d15db500cc64ff996e9ad
Like this but the front part was downwards. They want £47 for this one - I should have kept mine! I think I threw it in the bin.

I knew it as obstetric cholestasis; I hadn't realised it had another name.

My secondary school ( direct grant, so a hybrid of grammar and private) had an expensive uniform only available from Horne's, which I think was an upmarket chain at the time. We were given a little card to show to confirm that we were entitled to buy it, as if anyone else would have wanted to!

Anyway, once I was on the bus on the way to school and a young woman opposite leant across and said 'Don't you have to wear a hat?' I confirmed that that requirement had gone before I started and she seemed disappointed. Old Girl who wanted others to suffer as she had suffered, I suppose!

@CaptainMyCaptain

www.etsy.com/uk/listing/216489211/1970s-vintage-school-felt-hat-vintage?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_uk_en_gb_-accessories-domestic_med&utm_custom1=_k_f618a445e76d15db500cc64ff996e9ad_k_&utm_content=bing_408847089_1297424026799234_81089067322686_pla-4584688616641336:pla-4584688616641336_c__216489211engb&utm_custom2=408847089&msclkid=f618a445e76d15db500cc64ff996e9ad Like this but the front part was downwards. They want £47 for this one - I should have kept mine! I think I threw it in the bin.

My school had those hats too! Blue velvet in the winter and straw in the summer. Woe betide anyone spotted not wearing it on the way to or from school... they would have the punishment of "hat detention" inflicted upon them. This involved having to wear your hat all day in school. Some girls wore their hats more in school than outside it ...

ICP is intrahepatic cholestasis of pregnancy, it is sometimes called Obstetric cholestasis. I think it’s when there is a problem with your liver during pregnancy and it causes severe itching.

It can lead to stillbirth, so anyone with itching during pregnancy should seek medical advice and have their bloods monitored. They should also have an early c-section.

A dear friend had a stillbirth because her ICP was dismissed by the midwife, her bloods weren’t monitored and she wasn’t given an early c-section. Her baby would have been fine had ICP been taken seriously.

ICP Support is the charity for this condition. There is a good website here with lots of information www.icpsupport.org/index.html. They are also researching the condition and need volunteers to take part. Please do if you are able. And/or please consider donating to them. Helen George is actually their patron.

I actually feel really annoyed with Call The Midwife. Not only have the put an OTT drama into a programme that didn’t need it - the dramas of women’s lives and births are enough. But they have completely overshadowed the ICP storyline with it. I would be really pissed off if I was Helen George.

My school had those hats too! Blue velvet in the winter and straw in the summer. Woe betide anyone spotted not wearing it on the way to or from school... they would have the punishment of "hat detention" inflicted upon them. This involved having to wear your hat all day in school. Some girls wore their hats more in school than outside it ...

And having a crease down the middle of your hat was a dead give away you had had it in your pocket. Speaking of pockets, if you were caught out of school walking with your hands in your pockets they had to be sewn up.

It's a shame they felt they needed drama like the crash. The strength of the programme used to be in the relationship and story of each woman they worked with as midwives.

This with buttons and bows on (courtesy of Mrs Buckle)

It isn’t supposed to be like Emmerdale.

Which also took a downturn for me after all the drama.

Sheila, Amos and Mr Wilkes chatting over the kitchen table woz the days…

Crease down the middle of yer titfer?

I’ve got two ruddy big creases from scowling at this bobbins right at the top of my beak. 😡

I think they are making it clear that the Turner children are definitely at private school, but why wouldn't they be? Dr Turner will be relatively well paid and they have two salaries coming in to the house. Tim is at university, which was only for those who could afford it. Yhey don't live in the heart of Poplar. They can afford a nice house.

Although the Turners work in Poplar and are very sympathetic to their patients and the community, they live a MC life different to that of the generally poorer community in which they work.

@Hellosunshiner

But the Turners don't live directly in Poplar (ie "the community") though. They live in a naice local burb in a new build semi detached house and a garden, with all the mod cons of the 60s, like a fully fitted kitchen. I think The children would not be attending a school in the heart of Poplar itself. Dr Turner is firmly Middle Class.

Gasp0de I think it's been said that the series has been decommissioned until 1969 or 1970. I think it may be that they continue into the early 70s (73 maybe) when it will reach a natural ending to follow the move of the order to the midlands.

Of course, if they wish to they can continue it as long as it's popular. Or they could move with it to Solihull. It's fiction (after the Jennifer Worth stories ended, which is probably the last 7 or 8 series). There's no rule to say it has to stop because the original Nonnatus House staff moved cities in real life.

I think they live in the type of housing mixed in with the high rise which was largely council . Also lots of inner London private estates like the Barbican. They don’t have a proper garden just a Very 1960s small outdoor space

My brothers state infants had hats- he was born in 1967

Dr Grin will save the day. He'll save everyone on the train, firstly putting out the fire, and lifting the train of persons trapped underneath. Then performing emergency surgery on numerous people, using only a tea spoon and the hot water, from the tea trolley to sterilise. At the same time giving everyone on board a vaccination for measles.
He wins award for being the world's greatest doctor, with Sheila looks on with tears in her eyes. Mae & Angela throw their arms in the air and sat "yeah"

TheHoptimist Even so, they don't live in the heart of Poplar and the children clearly don't go to the local Poplar school which the nuns visit for nits etc.

@Whataboutye

Dr Grin will save the day. He'll save everyone on the train, firstly putting out the fire, and lifting the train of persons trapped underneath. Then performing emergency surgery on numerous people, using only a tea spoon and the hot water, from the tea trolley to sterilise. At the same time giving everyone on board a vaccination for measles. He wins award for being the world's greatest doctor, with Sheila looks on with tears in her eyes. Mae & Angela throw their arms in the air and sat "yeah"

😂😂😂😂😂

Mustn't forget those measles vaccinations!

I felt a bit traumatised last night. As a PP said, the drama of people's lives - particularly women's lives as relates to childbirth, and some of the storylines the series has brought up around abortion, poverty, homosexuality, domestic abuse - was enough and The Crash felt a bit like the time they let an EastEnder's scriptwriter loose on The Archers. Much as CTM seems to exist in a rather perfect bubble where everyone does the right thing/comes round in the end/magically manages to persuade the Council not to flatten Nonatus House for an office block, I don't think it needed a massive disaster.

On top of that, you could see the plot line - train driver with eyesight/blinding headache problems who has a wife about to go into labour, people on a train when they wouldn't usually be ("I'm so glad I decided not to drive...") and everyone being happy - coming like, well, a train coming down the tracks.

As for next week, I suspect Dr Turner will survive, Sister Julienne won't (or she'll be injured enough to take retirement at The Mother House) and Nurse Crane will happen to be in The Carriage of Doom to do some heroic saving. Bloody love Phyllis, she always seems like a good egg.

i was confused by the terrible bedsit the council gave to the young mum. was there not a lot of slum clearance going on then?