And Just Like That..is anyone actually enjoy it?

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I’m three episodes in, and I’m like “meh”
Not very funny and depressing…
Hate all the “box ticking “ it’s overtaking the show
Charlottes daughter can’t just be a tom boy ( which in itself would be funny ) she has to be -whatever they were saying? Transgender?
3 min “comedy sketch” about being Bi….?
Charlotte and Stanford don’t like each other?
Big wanking ..( eew)
Steve just going “eh? What?”
Carrie totally ignoring Charlottes warning about Miranda’s drinking?
Miranda’s Prof saying she was a White Saviour when trying to point out to the guard he was being unreasonable?
Everyone mentioning their age every scene?
Why would Carrie be putting herself through the embarrassment of a vulgar podcast when she’s clearly retired writing and married to a millionaire?

I’m debating whether to just imagine them, all running home from the desert where my imagination left left after SATC2 …

I’m half way through the new episode and it’s definitely getting better with each episode! This ones quite funny.

Was thinking about what someone said above about the ‘woke’ aspect being uncomfortable on purpose and I think that’s probably what they are aiming to do.

The point perhaps is that older people think they are ‘down with the kids’ but still get things very wrong and actually have no idea at times

Omg

Its like a sitcom from days
Gone by with the racist all black
People Look alike jokes

The original was all about dissecting relationships, people, life decisions - surely the woke storylines in this fit pretty well with that?

Samantha sulking over losing Carries work makes sense - I know someone who has done that! Maybe we will see Carrie walk away from the awful podcast - get her own - that might be the point. To be true to herself.

@Apple1971

Was thinking about what someone said above about the ‘woke’ aspect being uncomfortable on purpose and I think that’s probably what they are aiming to do.

The point perhaps is that older people think they are ‘down with the kids’ but still get things very wrong and actually have no idea at times

No, what I am saying is that many professional women in their 50s are engaged in combating TRA’s corrosive impact on women’s rights, spaces and safety — not tiptoeing, befuddled and bemused, around people a generation younger who’ve drunk the Kool Aid and appear to think that the disappearance of sex-based rights is less important than how you identify, and pronouns.

I didn’t watch the original series enough to know what branch of law Miranda specialised in, but (especially if she’s changing direction anyway) she’d be an obvious person to be sharply aware of legal challenges to freedom of speech, male sex offenders identifying as women locked up in female jails etc.

Many of us don’t want to be ‘down with the kids’ because, frankly, what the kids are up to is profoundly damaging. We’re aware of it, we just disagree and are fighting to retain the rights we fought for in the first place.

Well said @Orreries

I've just watched episode 4 & loved it!

@JacquelineCarlyle

I've just watched episode 4 & loved it!

Same. It seems to be finding its stride.

@Unmerited

It’s not so much that it’s trying to be woke, as that it’s trying to show how middle aged women are not woke. Which is hilarious given we’re the ones battered over the head to ‘be kind’ all the time while simultaneously looking after children, parents, working and god knows what else.

This.

I think it's deliberate in a bid to show how ridiculous it has all become now. I'm in my mid-forties and I often feel out of step with the world I find myself living in now. Maybe that's why it all resonates with me.

Have just watched this week's episode and it's really getting into its stride now. The biggest surprise is that Carrie is less annoying than she used to be. Still solipsistic though, thankfully.

Well said @Orreries. Totally bloody agree.

I agree with @Orreries

These aren't women in their 50s who moved
Upstate and became Suburban housewives

They're all still living In Manhattan / Brooklyn still at the top of their careers. They managed to keep up to speed with fashion but nothing else?

It's insulting to women of that age group.

And why to Americans need to Yanksplain
Everything in detail as if the audience are stupid

It’s guff.

The Che Diaz set in particular was Utter Guff. Why was that given so much space?? I’m sure they’re admired/appreciated as a stand up, but this isn’t Live at the Apollo (or US equivalent).

Guff.

And 100% what Orreries said.

Charlotte not being able to tell black people apart and inviting token black guests was so incredibly cringey.
I did like Seema though. Nice to see a S Asian woman with her own life and not painted as a servile, clingy doormat.

I don’t understand why people think Carrie would be this highly successful, podcast girl boss type. She never exactly set the world on fire, wasn’t a leader, and has a pattern of leaning on others. I think it fits that when she got married and lost the ‘singleton about town’ status that her column was based on, she would not have adeptly diversified - especially as her present-day character is portrayed as out-of-touch. Whilst it might fit that lead character = great career, I don’t think that fits for Carrie.

@Apple1971

Was thinking about what someone said above about the ‘woke’ aspect being uncomfortable on purpose and I think that’s probably what they are aiming to do.

The point perhaps is that older people think they are ‘down with the kids’ but still get things very wrong and actually have no idea at times

I get that, but it’s ham fisted and not entertaining to watch - which was SATC’s original aim. There are so many other options for making us self examine, feel uncomfortable with our biases and privileges and…. yeah, that’s not why I watch this one.

I think the ‘out of touch’ phrase is really interesting. Middle aged women are perceived as ‘out of touch’ because the world is not about us. The world is for the young and for the male and for everyone other than women past their apparent best before date. What about if women over 40 are in touch? In touch with what being a woman, half of the population is? In touch because they’re more likely to spend the majority of their time bending over backwards to accommodate EVERYONE else’s opinions and needs while being apologetic for it. There are some benefits to being less visible but honestly.. the original scene where Carrie gets soaked by the bus, is more relevant now, it probably would just mow her down now given the invisibility of her sex and age.

@Unmerited

It’s not so much that it’s trying to be woke, as that it’s trying to show how middle aged women are not woke. Which is hilarious given we’re the ones battered over the head to ‘be kind’ all the time while simultaneously looking after children, parents, working and god knows what else.

This.

They've squandered an opportunity to explore the lives of an under represented group - middle aged women. Instead, all the fashions of the era seem to be more important than actually exploring how women in their 40s deal with real world issues that happen to US, such as menopause, caring, career etc.

The Netflix drama 'on the Verge' does this to some degree, but still has to keep to fashion with a boy who questions his sex. This is also the theme of another French comedy drama about a woman who pretends to have cancer to get some attention off her family (can't recall the name).
In both dramas, self ID with a child, seems to demand centre stage.

And 50s!

@Orreries I agree with you, and it’s made me think - the whole ‘young people are always right’ thing is quite damaging in this particular fight. As it’s older women who are fighting against it, because we sadly know what it is we are fighting for again, makes it harder as we’re an easy target to discount. The system is already set up to do so.

They've squandered an opportunity to explore the lives of an under represented group - middle aged women. Instead, all the fashions of the era seem to be more important than actually exploring how women in their 40s deal with real world issues that happen to US, such as menopause, caring, career etc.

Yes! @middleager

I completely agree. And they’ve pitched the women in it against each other. Carrie against Natasha (fighting over a man basically). Miranda being a bumbling idiot with Nya. If I’m not going to get sparkling New York escapism then at least give me drama that relates to women of this age, vs just showing them as out of touch dinosaurs.

Why is Carrie letting young people on that stupid podcast boss her around and be rude to her? Why is Miranda allowing her horrible son to have sex in her house and call her a bitch, and then letting his cheeky girlfriend walk all over her?

As for the fashions, well they are cheery and colourful, but don't they all seem to be dressing like women in the 50s with all those highwaisted circle skirts? Don't any of them ever wear jeans and trainers?

Yeah, fair, “out of touch” is a bit of a lazy expression. But Carrie’s column, just like SATC itself I suppose, was very much of its time. And she isn’t an especially progressive character.

Why does she need to be though? If going to see very unfunny try hard comedy by Che out of white guilt is being in touch, I would rather be a dinosaur.

The guy on the podcast boasts about masturbating at various locations across NYC.
In another episode he brags about sleeping with a minor.

Carrie's not comfortable with either scenario, though Che chuckles at the former.

Come on, Carrie, get with the programme. Males wanking in public places, shagging school kids, is progressive don't you know, Boomer!