And Just Like That..is anyone actually enjoy it?

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I’m three episodes in, and I’m like “meh”
Not very funny and depressing…
Hate all the “box ticking “ it’s overtaking the show
Charlottes daughter can’t just be a tom boy ( which in itself would be funny ) she has to be -whatever they were saying? Transgender?
3 min “comedy sketch” about being Bi….?
Charlotte and Stanford don’t like each other?
Big wanking ..( eew)
Steve just going “eh? What?”
Carrie totally ignoring Charlottes warning about Miranda’s drinking?
Miranda’s Prof saying she was a White Saviour when trying to point out to the guard he was being unreasonable?
Everyone mentioning their age every scene?
Why would Carrie be putting herself through the embarrassment of a vulgar podcast when she’s clearly retired writing and married to a millionaire?

I’m debating whether to just imagine them, all running home from the desert where my imagination left left after SATC2 …

By the end, I definitely didn't hate it as much as the first few episodes.

For me the biggest issues were the fact that none of the topics that they covered felt natural, or fleshed out. It very much felt like tokenism (Miranda's alcoholism, and the Rock storylines being a prime example).
It was almost like two separate seasons - the first half where they basically lectured the audience constantly, and the second half where they relaxed into it much more and focused on the stories that were naturally developing.

Seema was a fabulous addition. Brilliant chemistry with SJP, and I truly loved her. The professor has potential, but what the fuck was the point of Charlottes friend? The fact that I can't even remember their names shows how little development there was of their characters.

Its strange, because I was adament that I hated the show, yet I was watching it each week rather than letting it build up on my sky box. Would I watch a second series? Probably, but only if they really learned from the criticism, which I doubt they'll do. I see they've already been pushing out that the audience were wrong for hating Che, and that the audience had to attribute a 'villain' - nothing to do with the fact that it was an awful character with poor writing!

I really hope they make another series. I want to see more.

The trans rabbi eating the sourdough challah made me laugh

And Anthony is the gem of this series as as I am concerned.

@kirkandpetal the Eiffel Tower bag featured in the final episodes of the original series.

Carrie's scenes were just right.

I absolutely hated that Miranda was belittling Carrie for saying Big was visiting her via the lamp. Just Miranda as a whole, like we all feel now, is horrible.

Che singing?! The whole scene felt ridiculous and I can't understand how Che and Miranda are in love when they both always act completely shocked and uncomfortable with what the other one is doing! It's bizarre.

[quote RhythmOfTheLight]@kirkandpetal the Eiffel Tower bag featured in the final episodes of the original series.[/quote]

Ah did it? I never realized. Ah well, no wonder she used it. Feels life a zillion years ago since SATC was on.

The series definitely improved as time went on. I even grew to not mind Che as much (did I really just say that?! ). That said, I don't think I know anyone who would hire out a bar and sing a song to announce they are moving away ).

Although I understand why they had to cut Chris Noth out, the dream sequence didn't make as much sense without him in it.

I think the Miranda/Che story has been left hanging a bit. A few hints were given that it isn't going to plain sailing for Miranda (Che previously telling her she isnt her girlfriend when she turned up at her door with cookies, Che saying it won't be a conventional relationship, Che wincing in the diner last week when Miranda introduced herself as the girlfriend, and then at the song, she didn't know what was going on, etc). Everyone waited for something to happen but it never did, but plenty of hints were there that it would. Perhaps to tantalise viewers for a 2nd series..

[quote RhythmOfTheLight]@kirkandpetal the Eiffel Tower bag featured in the final episodes of the original series.[/quote]
I really hope Carrie had something lining that handbag! Surely she won't be using it again if it's still got Big remnants in it??

@StPaulandTheBrokenBones

I'm not sure whether anyone else has mentioned this but when Carrie and Miranda were talking about Miranda going off to California did this remind anyone of when Carrie was going to Paris with the Russian?

I seem to recall Miranda accusing Carrie of throwing her life away (her job, friends etc) to move to Paris and asking what she would do there other than wait around for the Russian to finish working.

It was almost a mirror of that conversation in the last episode of AJLT. Interesting because Miranda gave Carrie a really hard time about going to Paris with some man she barely knew and yet Miranda has left her life on the spur of the moment for someone she has just met.

I came on to say exactly this. Their conversation was almost a role reversal of Miranda berating Carrie for moving to Paris with Petrovsky. Miranda asked Carrie if she was going to sit around all say eating croissants. Carrie asked Miranda if she was going spend her days sitting in the audience of Che's show. Both were throwing away their passions (Carrie's column, Miranda's internship - human rights being something she'd professed she'd been so passionate about that she'd thrown in her corporate law career).

If they do a series 2, maybe Carrie and Charlotte will be sending Steve off to, "Go find our girl" the way the sent Big to find Carrie in Paris.

I never knew how much I loved Samantha but blimey, this series needed her. She never took herself too seriously, she had a sense of humour and a softness about her. Sam would have seen through Che straight away and called them out for what they are - just a player who won't give Miranda what she wants.

I've realised, watching AJLT, that Samantha was the heart and soul of Sex and the City. And actually, Kim Catrall's calibre as an actress made the series, and Sam's character, stand out above everyone else in SATC. Sam's sexual exploits could have been tacky, outrageous, pornographic and plain dull. But Sam/Kim's charisma, humour, humanity and comic timing meant that she was just charming, even if she had a sex life that was way out there. One thing that always stuck out was Sam's kindness, that came from her lack of judgment. She was kind to many of her casual conquests e.g. the Turtle, and ultimately Smith, whom she catapulted to stardom, even though there was really nothing in it for her. She was the "Sex" in Sex and the City. I think, as an actress and as a character, she outshone Carrie/SJP and that is where the real life conflict originated.

I figured this was the case but it's confirmed that Nya was originally Miranda's love interest but Cynthia nixed it.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10476021/Cynthia-Nixon-reveals-Mirandas-love-WASNT-originally-Che.html

Agree about Samantha. Also rewatching the old series, you see the easiest friendship is between Samantha & Miranda. They totally bounce off each other.

Like others have said, I hated the way Miranda tore into Carrie for suggesting Big was in Heaven. She seemed so controlling 'I thought we were on the same page about this!'. Yet there is an episode in SATC where Miranda asks Carrie to come and stay in her apartment as she thinks she has a ghost.

@LilithOfEden

I never knew how much I loved Samantha but blimey, this series needed her. She never took herself too seriously, she had a sense of humour and a softness about her. Sam would have seen through Che straight away and called them out for what they are - just a player who won't give Miranda what she wants.

I've realised, watching AJLT, that Samantha was the heart and soul of Sex and the City. And actually, Kim Catrall's calibre as an actress made the series, and Sam's character, stand out above everyone else in SATC. Sam's sexual exploits could have been tacky, outrageous, pornographic and plain dull. But Sam/Kim's charisma, humour, humanity and comic timing meant that she was just charming, even if she had a sex life that was way out there. One thing that always stuck out was Sam's kindness, that came from her lack of judgment. She was kind to many of her casual conquests e.g. the Turtle, and ultimately Smith, whom she catapulted to stardom, even though there was really nothing in it for her. She was the "Sex" in Sex and the City. I think, as an actress and as a character, she outshone Carrie/SJP and that is where the real life conflict originated.

Yes, there's a scene in SATC where Carrie says to Samantha "Don't you want to judge me?" and Sam says, with a twinkle, "That's not my style"

It has been bothering me- Nya, the law professor, seemed to me to be well over 40. I just googled and the actress is 45. We’re we meant to think that she was someone that age in real life, for whom having a baby would be very unusual, and nigh impossible even with IVF unless using donor eggs? Or that the character was about 38ish? She seemed very obviously over 40 to me. That lessened the impact of the storyline for me because she seemed so from the start to be obviously clutching at straws thinking that she might conceive.

I liked SJP in it though, and would watch a new series of there were one. But I’ve just been watching a few old SATC episodes and it brought home how much better the writing was then.

I think Che and Miranda had zero chemistry.

Che was written with Sara Ramirez in mind. As Carrie’s boss they were great, but as the object of desire that reduced the intelligent, cynical Miranda to a gibbering wreck who, as a result, walks out of her marriage, no.

Loved Carrie though.

LOVED the lift scene at the end so much I had to rewind and watch it again!

@HaveringWavering

It has been bothering me- Nya, the law professor, seemed to me to be well over 40. I just googled and the actress is 45. We’re we meant to think that she was someone that age in real life, for whom having a baby would be very unusual, and nigh impossible even with IVF unless using donor eggs? Or that the character was about 38ish? She seemed very obviously over 40 to me. That lessened the impact of the storyline for me because she seemed so from the start to be obviously clutching at straws thinking that she might conceive.

I liked SJP in it though, and would watch a new series of there were one. But I’ve just been watching a few old SATC episodes and it brought home how much better the writing was then.

Yes I think she is meant to be her age - she talks about how long it took to find her partner and I imagine worked very hard. So she didn’t get the chance to conceive. It’s a sad story line and not unbelievable

Yes I think she is meant to be her age - she talks about how long it took to find her partner and I imagine worked very hard.

Maybe I’m misremembering but I thought when they were painting she said to her husband something like “for x years we were enough for each other” and x was quite a long number?

I think what I am trying to say is that they got a bit mixed up trying on the one hand to make Nya a close enough age to Miranda to be a friend, and also old enough to be a senior academic, and the fertility storyline was just too out of kilter with that. It was portrayed as “a bit late but might still happen naturally” (she talked about trying naturally in between IVF cycles) when really it should have been “very late but women can still have babies at this age with a lot of intervention and donor eggs”. That would have made more sense, in that actually her point was that she had reached the age she was at without ever really wanting kids and the biological urge was not there at all, and the IVF was driven by her husband. It might also have been nice for them to have set up a conversation between her and Carrie about being child free.

Nya always looked so much older than her husband I thought.

Didn't he also play the part of Shy Baldwin in Mrs Maisel?

It's not at all unusual for women over 40 to have babies, I know loads who have (in some cases more than one and in one case aged 48 conceived naturally). This didn't jar with me at all.

However I think it would have been better to have Nya as Miranda's love interest, a meeting of minds, the complexities of it being a student/professor relationship. But then they wouldn't have had an excuse to shoehorn Che into every episode.

@ExtremelyDelighted early forties, yes. I was 43 when my son was born. But I needed IVF and it was clear that by the time I was 45 a sibling was not going to happen without donor eggs. Natural conception at that age is very very rare. This is kind of my point, I had the character’s age down as north of 45 rather than early forties and still in with a chance.

@dayswithaY

Nya always looked so much older than her husband I thought.

Didn't he also play the part of Shy Baldwin in Mrs Maisel?

I KNEW he was familiar! Thank you!

Agree, he seemed younger.

I would have put her at early 40s at the oldest but hadn't looked up the actress's age.

A relationship between Miranda and Nya would have made a lot of sense. The dazzling professor and how that all develops. Maybe they are saving it for series 2?!

@ExtremelyDelighted

It's not at all unusual for women over 40 to have babies, I know loads who have (in some cases more than one and in one case aged 48 conceived naturally). This didn't jar with me at all.

However I think it would have been better to have Nya as Miranda's love interest, a meeting of minds, the complexities of it being a student/professor relationship. But then they wouldn't have had an excuse to shoehorn Che into every episode.

Honestly from seeing Cynthia Nixon talk, I wouldn't be surprised if she personally has a bit of a crush on Ramirez and that's why she pushed for them to be paired together. She certainly seems more into somewhat butch women than traditionally feminine, she described her wife as 'just like a man with boobs' and said she couldn't resist that. Her objection to Miranda and Nya was that as they were both straight characters their sex wouldn't be hot. And that's very easily fixed by making Nya a bisexual woman in a marriage to a man but with past relationships with women.