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New 4 part drama starting tomorrow night

Jane and Emma move into a rental that is an opportunity of a lifetime

It’s is a luxury Ultra minimalist pad

As long as they answer ledwards - the landlords strange questions and follows the rules that he sets ……….

Remember - if it is too good to be true then it probably is

*So did she lose the baby. I missed that bit

Sad to make Jane lose 2 babies sad*

Did she?

I thought she went to the clinic to have an abortion, changed her mind at the last minute, and then snuck out getting the nurse to give that note to Edward. The little boy (?) is the baby she was pregnant with.

Or am I wrong?

@IcedPurple

*So did she lose the baby. I missed that bit

Sad to make Jane lose 2 babies sad*

Did she?

I thought she went to the clinic to have an abortion, changed her mind at the last minute, and then snuck out getting the nurse to give that note to Edward. The little boy (?) is the baby she was pregnant with.

Or am I wrong?

That's what I thought

Agree although it was unbelievable she'd consider a TOP other than to avoid being tied to Edward

She left him and had the baby alone.
Left him a letter advising him to go to the therapist

At the end the estate agent was giving exactly the same spiel to someone else.

Doesn't seem like Edward has changed that much at all.

She didn't abort the second baby.
Edward wanted her to and they went to the clinic together but she changed her mind last minute and gave the nurse a note to give Edward, and left without him.

@Justkeeppedaling Glad to know it’s not just me that has prosopagnosia! Have you participated in the research that Swansea Uni are doing? They confirmed I have developmental prosopagnosia, apparently if I was in a room of 100 people doing the tests, I’d be the worst or second worst. My Mum’s results where that she’d be the worst. My sister also struggles too.
sites.google.com/view/face-research-swansea/get-involved Took me far too long to realise who had left the flowers, I was also glad they named the chap breaking in as didn’t have a clue who he was!
Still don’t quite understand how Emma ended up sleeping in the service cupboard though…was it just that she was scared being there by herself?
I thought the ending showing Jane’s strength was good though and also the way you weren’t sure if the cycle was going to continue with the estate agent at the end.
You can take the questionnaire to apply to live there. www.jpdelaney.co.uk/?page_id=433

The therapist suspected Edward. Correctly warned that he was trapped and repeating.

Cleverly, it was actually Simon becoming trapped and repeating. That's the dramatic, ironic twist, I think. Slightly misses, though. Edward is set up as the villain, but it's actually Simon becoming what the therapist feared Edward already was.

There's a clever element of repeating patterns and time loops. Something we think is an established pattern (Edward repeating) is actually a developing pattern (Simon). It's not just the women overlapping. There's lots of repeating and overlapping happening- letting agents, work scenarios, Saul's affairs/assaults, as well as Edward, Jane, Emma and Simon. And of course the therapist. What a lot of deja vu!

I've just watched the last episode. I enjoyed bits of it BUT I just couldn't get over the main premise. If you went to look at that terrifying house and then received a mad questionnaire ('would you sacrifice yourself to save 10 innocent strangers????') and then got told you weren't allowed any belongings AND then went and had that meeting with scary architect where you were told the house would 'gather data' on you...you wouldn't move in. No one would.

And if you then found out that there were two people buried in the garden after your landlord backed some sort of bulldozer into a wall and squashed them and a woman who lived there before you was also shagging the landlord and died in mysterious circumstances you would move out! And the fox sniffing around the graves was off putting too 🤦🏼‍♀️

I thought it was a good final episode. I didn't guess the twist so that was good. I did say she was raped by his best friend though, and got that right.
Simon was the one hiding in the service cupboard and spying on Emma, and Jane, and messing with the controls.
The pearl necklace. There were two. Emma's was broken by Simon when she tried to get away and fell down the stairs.
Jane had the baby alone after she didn't go through with the termination. She write Edward a note telling him and suggesting the therapist, which he took up.
I like how at the end the agent was showing someone around, giving them the same schpeel but you didn't know if it was another lookie likie or someone completely different.

I think it's an interesting premise, a malevolent house just sitting there, drawing in people who become enthralled by it and eventually causing them to be sacrificed to its needs. Opens up a whole area of psychogeography. A house that needs blood.

Really likes it. Guessed the twist but liked it - it’s not the red flag weirdo it’s the nice guy who is a bit askew sometimes who can be more damaging and problematic.

Edward was still a wrong ‘un though and I’m glad Jane dodged the bullet and came into her own. She seemed a bit unsympathetic as a character for much of the time (don’t get why she’d put up with any of it) but seemed warmer and more real by the end.

Ben Hardy comes across so well in real life and I hope it’s true that him and Jessica Plumber are now a couple - totally gorgeous together.

I thought it was a disappointing ending. I did wonder if there would be a twist with Simon responsible. But in the twist he seemed to change into a different person. It would have been much more believable if he had continued to be nice, but there was an accident he maybe partially caused but tried to cover up.
I agree that anyone who would move into that house with those conditions is mad. And you could see the stairs are a potential deathtrap. There isn't even a banister.

@IcedPurple

*So did she lose the baby. I missed that bit

Sad to make Jane lose 2 babies sad*

Did she?

I thought she went to the clinic to have an abortion, changed her mind at the last minute, and then snuck out getting the nurse to give that note to Edward. The little boy (?) is the baby she was pregnant with.

Or am I wrong?

That makes more sense

But why then do it alone

@Justkeeppedaling

She didn't abort the second baby. Edward wanted her to and they went to the clinic together but she changed her mind last minute and gave the nurse a note to give Edward, and left without him.

I missed the bit about him wanting to abort

Knew went to clinic and letter but missed why was going there

No way she would abort her much wanted baby

@shreddednips

I've just watched the last episode. I enjoyed bits of it BUT I just couldn't get over the main premise. If you went to look at that terrifying house and then received a mad questionnaire ('would you sacrifice yourself to save 10 innocent strangers????') and then got told you weren't allowed any belongings AND then went and had that meeting with scary architect where you were told the house would 'gather data' on you...you wouldn't move in. No one would.

And if you then found out that there were two people buried in the garden after your landlord backed some sort of bulldozer into a wall and squashed them and a woman who lived there before you was also shagging the landlord and died in mysterious circumstances you would move out! And the fox sniffing around the graves was off putting too 🤦🏼‍♀️

But is cheap rent @shreddednips

That makes it all ok 😂😂

This might give some landlords ideas! 😂

I don't think Simon was nice early on. He refused to let Emma go to the police station alone and was nasty when dumped. Also taking flowers to someone else's house because someone you loved died there isn't normal or lots of houses would have flowers dumped outside them

I missed the bit about him wanting to abort

Knew went to clinic and letter but missed why was going there

Same. I assumed it was just a prenatal appointment but wondered why he wasn't going in with her.

Then realised after what it was.

Considered whether she'd have Edward back once he's worked on himself.

I don't get the bit about the service cupboard. Emma wasn't hiding in there so why did it say "help me" etc?

I think they did a good job of changing our opinion of Simon in order to twyst again at the end.

I enjoyed it but shame it's already finished!

I need something new to watch now

I think they did a good job of weaving in jarring things about Simon before the ending. Its lots of “small” things that make it clear the nice guy isn’t quite so nice as he seems on the surface: his response to her rape “why didn’t you tell me” rather than empathising how devastating it must be for Emma. His insistence she was the perfect girl when she was clearly uncomfortable in the first episode. Not taking no for an answer when dumped but dressing it up in romantic devotion.

I think it’s more authentic that the maniacal killer is one step up from the selfish obsessive.

@Blondeshavemorefun they didn't say why they were going but it was implied when he said in the cab on the way there that they would have a baby when the time was right, meaning now wasn't.

At the end when he was shouting at Jane he said something about Emma, and how it was always the other men she wanted and listed off some names, including Saul, his friend and the guy who raped Emma. To me it said he thought it wasn't rape and that it was a thing, a one night stand or a relationship. He was also shouting at Jane as if she was Emma I thought.

As with so many of these programmes, if Edward and told Jane what had happened, then she would have probably been ok with him and they might have stayed together. But then there wouldn't have been a story to tell.

It was good but I was at least 3 episodes in before I could distinguish the two lead actress's!

[quote Twitchynose]@Justkeeppedaling Glad to know it’s not just me that has prosopagnosia! Have you participated in the research that Swansea Uni are doing? They confirmed I have developmental prosopagnosia, apparently if I was in a room of 100 people doing the tests, I’d be the worst or second worst. My Mum’s results where that she’d be the worst. My sister also struggles too.
sites.google.com/view/face-research-swansea/get-involved Took me far too long to realise who had left the flowers, I was also glad they named the chap breaking in as didn’t have a clue who he was!
Still don’t quite understand how Emma ended up sleeping in the service cupboard though…was it just that she was scared being there by herself?
I thought the ending showing Jane’s strength was good though and also the way you weren’t sure if the cycle was going to continue with the estate agent at the end.
You can take the questionnaire to apply to live there. www.jpdelaney.co.uk/?page_id=433[/quote]
Hadn't heard of Swansea Uni's research, but will look it up, thank you.

I grew up close to Swansea, and went to lots of tutorials etc at the Uni when I was in 6th form, so it's close to my heart anyway.

I could tell them apart quite easily, though they did look alike. For one thing, the actress playing Jane is a mature woman, whereas Emma seemed to be younger and a girl to me.

Googles Yes - nearly ten years difference in age.