AJLT... With spoilers!

[ReeseWitherfork]

Just finished episode one and need to talk about it!!!

Didn't like much of the episode to be honest. But the ending! I'm floored! Was not expecting that.

It was odd to be having lunch with Anthony and no one mentioned Stanford! That just wouldn't happen!

OMG Miranda!!! What were you doing in the kitchen?

Carrie was way too nice to Miranda, she should have asked to her to leave. I would have been furious. Letting her boss in, letting her smoke, both of them getting drunk and then having sex right there. She wasn't one bit remorseful either. Were they trying to show how her alcohol problem made her throw away her boundaries?

I never liked Miranda as a character, CN was so wooden. Still is and now pushing her agenda makes it thousand times worse.

Che is pitiful and revolting.

Miranda was at least powerful, now she's just pathetic.

She used to be admirable, now she's pitiful.

I’ve just watched it. As 13YO DD would say “so cringe”. Revolting episode, tbh.

I think Cynthia Nixon intended the scene in the kitchen to be groundbreaking and sexy but instead Che comes across as predatory.

@dayswithaY

I think Cynthia Nixon intended the scene in the kitchen to be groundbreaking and sexy but instead Che comes across as predatory.

Agreed. Miranda was drunk and stoned, and meant to be looking after her pre op friend. Grim.

I'm trying to work out the Che character
She's obviously there to provide 'diversity' - being a poc and 'non binary' which makes me think we are supposed to root for her, but her behaviour is objectively awful. Is it the trans Teflon? We aren't supposed to notice the awfulness because she's trans and that trumps all?

@CloseYourEyesAndSee

I'm trying to work out the Che character She's obviously there to provide 'diversity' - being a poc and 'non binary' which makes me think we are supposed to root for her, but her behaviour is objectively awful. Is it the trans Teflon? We aren't supposed to notice the awfulness because she's trans and that trumps all?

Che is pretty much a (somewhat more together) version of Sara Rameriz, the actor playing 'them.' Sara Rameriz was a broadway actor who also had a main role in Grey's Anatomy. Her Grey's character ended up in a popular relationship with another woman. And through that Ramirez, who was married to a man, seems to have realised her own attraction to women. But shortly after she came out as bisexual, her marriage ended and she started down the non-binary route. She has mainly had relationships with transmen, (that's people born female but living as men) including Chase Strangio, who is a high profile trans-activst with the ACLU who has led numerous campaigns against women's protected spaces being maintained. She (she has recently returned to using 'she' in her pronouns) is very, very caught up in identity politics and transactivism. The way that Che regularly states that they are a non-binary, bisexual, Mexican-Irish person, is 100% Sara.

So in the same way that Miranda is no longer Miranda but an on screen version of Cynthia Nixon. Che is pretty much just the version of Sara, that I believe Sara tries to be.

I have Covid, so stuck at home and have ended up finding these reviews on youtube. The youtuber seems to have been a big fan of the original and isn't holding back about the awfulness of this. I may only be enjoying it so much because of being bored out of my mind at home. But apparently her subscribers have more than doubled since she's being reviewing AJLT, so I'm not the only one and someone else here may also enjoy them.

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSkwyc4j6eU44EgntdFAe7vXLqY14FJa1

Oh god she was with that horror cheese stringio?! What a disaster. The wokeness is falling utterly flat though. Miranda is a gormless idiot who cheated on her husband and shagged someone whilst drunk and high in her recuperating friend's kitchen and che is just awful. The woke school seem to be overstepping and ridiculous. I can't see where they are going.

I’m rewatching old episodes from 2001-2003 and thinking that it’s unfortunate what they’ve done to Miranda, a misguided political agenda presumably fuelled by Nixon. However, Carrie and Charlotte are broadly how I’d have imagined they’d be at age 55 when I was watching it 20 years ago so for me, that’s good.

I also think that Anthony is excellent and I’m enjoying Seema, the law professor, and Charlotte’s pal. The older Goldenblatt girl is how I’d have pictured Charlotte’s child. The Rose stuff is grating but it reflects what’s happening to plenty of children in western society.

Harry and Steve are as lovely as ever, but underused. It was great to see graceful Natasha again, as well as Bitzy and Susan Sharon. More of these cameos please!

The reason for Samantha's absence doesn’t hold water for me. This is a woman whose clients demonstrably included A List stars, record companies, and billionaire hoteliers like Richard Wright. A novelist would provide about 1% of her business’s income I’d have thought, and probably been on mates’ rates anyway. And she’s savvy enough to understand economic realities during a pandemic. So, I think it would be wise to introduce a storyline in the next series (if there is one) indicating that there was more to the argument than that.

There’s a theory out there about the timing of the Noth revelations. It’s suggested they may have been leaked to distract from the poor reviews and reception in the US. Who knows. I actually reckon it got people talking even more negatively about the whole thing.

If Samatha had just moved to the U.K. then got stuck there during the pandemic that would have been fine. Though the show is written as if the pandemic is over. They could have had conversations with her off screen and included her that way. She didn't need to have fallen out with them all.

I've just watched episode 5 and really enjoyed it. I'm enjoying each episode more and more and think it's really getting into its stride. I hope it continues to get better and better and gets renewed for a 2nd season.

I have a lot to criticise - the wokeness/Miranda is excruciating - but a lot to love too. Anthony, Harry and I don’t even mind Charlotte and her nonsense. Carrie I always loved anyway - flawed and self absorbed as she is. I don’t even mind Che as a character though fast forwarded through the “comedy” routine and her kitchen scene with Miranda. Mostly I am enjoying it and I wouldn’t miss an episode which tells me I am hooked. I think these days that people love to slate and criticise and find “problematic” more than they love to praise and SM amplifies those attitudes and makes it seem as though the target of the criticism is utterly despised when in reality most people are probably not bothered/quite enjoying it. I’d like to see it renewed but the Loving To Hate on SM will prevent that.

I'm loving the series because Sex and the City was my favourite hate watch, in a 'so bad, it's good' kind of way. I hated Carrie but I loved tuning in to see what awful heinous shit she was going to get up to. AJLT is deliciously cringy.

Same!

Janice Turner in The Times today: that explains a LOT

“Scolded in the city
Sex and the City had many flaws, chief among which was conflating shopping with liberation, but it dealt with thirty-something women’s dilemmas with empathy and wit. I gave the reboot And Just Like That . . . a few episodes before forming judgment but can only boggle at how much it hates its original characters and fans. The three principals — the fourth, Samantha, being absent — are now in their mid-50s. They’ve married, had careers, raised kids, lived in vast, vibrant, ever-changing New York their whole lives. Yet these worldly women have been replaced by fragile, geriatric know-nothings who must be constantly schooled and scolded.

Miranda, once a lawyer, is baffled by new technology (although she was glued to her BlackBerry in the original), a gabbling rube when speaking to an African-American tutor (despite having dated a black guy for half a series), and either too weak to discipline her son or screechily OTT. Even Carrie’s sudden widowhood is classed as a rich-bitch self-indulgence no worse than a bad date, and her body is so decrepit she needs a hip op. Meanwhile, because Charlotte’s daughter likes skateboarding and prefers jeans to frilly frocks, she is no longer a girl but “non-binary”. When school calls her by a male name without informing her parents, the only possible response, Charlotte learns, is applause.

Why is this show so conservative, hateful and unfunny? Because the LGBT lobbying group GLAAD has been employed to parse the storylines into woke homilies. These straw dolls, Karens and whipping girls say nothing about real older women, yet everything about how they’re now perceived.“

A scene in today’s episode really bothered me…

Surely Miranda could have disengaged the vibrator before speaking to Brady? Seriously, who does that?

Oh wow @CruellaDeVilla that really nails it. I did not know about the group that have infiltrated the writing so much.

Sorry but the first conversation between the e of them doesn't even hint at what happened in the kitchen?? Not buying it!

And who hangs out their estate agent so much??

@CruellaDeVilla

Janice Turner in The Times today: that explains a LOT

“Scolded in the city
Sex and the City had many flaws, chief among which was conflating shopping with liberation, but it dealt with thirty-something women’s dilemmas with empathy and wit. I gave the reboot And Just Like That . . . a few episodes before forming judgment but can only boggle at how much it hates its original characters and fans. The three principals — the fourth, Samantha, being absent — are now in their mid-50s. They’ve married, had careers, raised kids, lived in vast, vibrant, ever-changing New York their whole lives. Yet these worldly women have been replaced by fragile, geriatric know-nothings who must be constantly schooled and scolded.

Miranda, once a lawyer, is baffled by new technology (although she was glued to her BlackBerry in the original), a gabbling rube when speaking to an African-American tutor (despite having dated a black guy for half a series), and either too weak to discipline her son or screechily OTT. Even Carrie’s sudden widowhood is classed as a rich-bitch self-indulgence no worse than a bad date, and her body is so decrepit she needs a hip op. Meanwhile, because Charlotte’s daughter likes skateboarding and prefers jeans to frilly frocks, she is no longer a girl but “non-binary”. When school calls her by a male name without informing her parents, the only possible response, Charlotte learns, is applause.

Why is this show so conservative, hateful and unfunny? Because the LGBT lobbying group GLAAD has been employed to parse the storylines into woke homilies. These straw dolls, Karens and whipping girls say nothing about real older women, yet everything about how they’re now perceived.“

Well that just about sums it up .

@CruellaDeVilla

Janice Turner in The Times today: that explains a LOT

“Scolded in the city
Sex and the City had many flaws, chief among which was conflating shopping with liberation, but it dealt with thirty-something women’s dilemmas with empathy and wit. I gave the reboot And Just Like That . . . a few episodes before forming judgment but can only boggle at how much it hates its original characters and fans. The three principals — the fourth, Samantha, being absent — are now in their mid-50s. They’ve married, had careers, raised kids, lived in vast, vibrant, ever-changing New York their whole lives. Yet these worldly women have been replaced by fragile, geriatric know-nothings who must be constantly schooled and scolded.

Miranda, once a lawyer, is baffled by new technology (although she was glued to her BlackBerry in the original), a gabbling rube when speaking to an African-American tutor (despite having dated a black guy for half a series), and either too weak to discipline her son or screechily OTT. Even Carrie’s sudden widowhood is classed as a rich-bitch self-indulgence no worse than a bad date, and her body is so decrepit she needs a hip op. Meanwhile, because Charlotte’s daughter likes skateboarding and prefers jeans to frilly frocks, she is no longer a girl but “non-binary”. When school calls her by a male name without informing her parents, the only possible response, Charlotte learns, is applause.

Why is this show so conservative, hateful and unfunny? Because the LGBT lobbying group GLAAD has been employed to parse the storylines into woke homilies. These straw dolls, Karens and whipping girls say nothing about real older women, yet everything about how they’re now perceived.“

This article is spot on. I watched the latest and couldn’t believe Carrie - after a lifetime in NYC - didn’t know what Diwali celebrated. Maybe I need to watch again, but I’m sure Seema had to explain.

I thought that episode was better than last week, although I could've done without the vibrator scene. I'm really liking Anthony - he's hilarious. And Seema is great. I can't believe they managed to get Madhur Jaffrey to play her mother!