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The Handmaid's Tale S4 at C4 pace (no spoilers from Hulu subscribers) Thread 2

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OverByYer · 08/07/2021 09:53

Under his eye

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CrouchEndTiger12 · 19/07/2021 07:55

It's annoying for me to watch as bloody Google news feed kept showing me articles about it and the headlines of those articles gave the game away.

Don't worry I'll never divulge on here and I don't know the details of how it gets there but still it's bloody annoying.

Agrees though...it is getting a bit ludicrous.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 19/07/2021 08:31

I thought the Martha's were part of the Mayday network?

I listened to the Eyes on Gilead podcast this morning & they said that the black Martha was Lorraine, who was one of the ones involved in disposing of Commander Wilmslow after June killed him & who then told June to fuck off & stop interfering when June was insisting on trying to get the kids out.

MotionActivatedDog · 19/07/2021 08:43

I don't get June and Nick at all... I know they've got history, but he is a Commander instrumental in wreaking havoc and killing people... how can June still be in love/lust with him?

I think June, like some other fool I wont name Blush is a sucker for a pretty face. Grin

OnTheBoardwalk · 19/07/2021 08:50

TheUnquestionedAnswer sorry I meant watching via iTunes yes I’m UK

I've got an USA iTunes account for my phone only. You can then buy episodes for $2.99. I buy on my phone and cast to my telly

Only thing is you then have to wait 90 days to switch back to another account on that device to watch UK shows again. That’s why I use my phone only for my USA account and keep my UK account on my other devices

GoingGently · 19/07/2021 09:01

I don't think Lawrence gives two hoots about June. If anything, to me he seems to resent her, but seems entirely neutral on whether she lives or dies or gets tortured by AL.

I am a bit confused by the fact she has her ear tag in...defo showed it on the close up as she was walking down the street. Can't they just ping her location? Why hasn't she removed it?

WilheminaVenable · 19/07/2021 09:03

I think it feels weird for me because in season 1 it was just gilead, whereas now you’ve got gilead, Chicago, 2 lots of Canada characters (if you get what I mean) and it just seems suddenly like a huge world again.
Also would like to know where the new handmaids are coming from.

Also intrigued where nick got his sudden power from, I know Fred was getting him promoted to get him away from the house but seems odd how high he’s climbed.

WorldsBestBoss · 19/07/2021 09:03

@MotionActivatedDog

I don't get June and Nick at all... I know they've got history, but he is a Commander instrumental in wreaking havoc and killing people... how can June still be in love/lust with him?

I think June, like some other fool I wont name Blush is a sucker for a pretty face. Grin

I was talking about this with DS last night. I think that Nick obviously got lured into Gilead by Commander Pryce, became a driver and that was fine(ish). But so much of what has happened with him since then has been stuff that he's not had much choice in. Eden for example. He was probably promoted to Commander and couldn't say no. He then has to act in a Commanderly way otherwise he would end up on the wall. I think June knows that he is in just as much of a difficult situation as she is. She basically told him he had to sleep with Eden remember. There is no way he could have not carried out the bombings without it looking extremely suspect - but you could see the look of horror on his face.
MotionActivatedDog · 19/07/2021 09:04

I wondered about the ear tag too. Rip it out June! You did it before

MotionActivatedDog · 19/07/2021 09:06

Nick makes me think a bit of Brody in homeland. He got in between a rock and a hard place through no fault of his own- he just had to go along with it to survive but it meant doing awful things.

KombuchaKrisis · 19/07/2021 09:55

@MotionActivatedDog I think it must not be a tracker and more of a serial number 🤷🏻‍♀️

MotionActivatedDog · 19/07/2021 09:59

I think you’re right.

GoingGently · 19/07/2021 10:16

I had assumed the new handmaids were fresh captives from the Chicago area (and other war torn territories...)

CurbsideProphet · 19/07/2021 10:46

@GoingGently the ear tag is just for identity, it's not a tracker.

I thought June's memory of her and Luke together was a hint that she's over Nick and would want to be with Luke again.

I'm still really enjoying THT, but I don't have preconceived ideas of what I want to happen (other than June / Hannah / Luke ultimately being reunited because I'm a sucker for a happy ending).

WorldsBestBoss · 19/07/2021 11:00

[quote CurbsideProphet]@GoingGently the ear tag is just for identity, it's not a tracker.

I thought June's memory of her and Luke together was a hint that she's over Nick and would want to be with Luke again.

I'm still really enjoying THT, but I don't have preconceived ideas of what I want to happen (other than June / Hannah / Luke ultimately being reunited because I'm a sucker for a happy ending).[/quote]
What about Holly/Nichole?

Freecuthbert · 19/07/2021 11:02

I didn't think the ear tag was actually a tracker either. However when June removed it in season 2 it looked like was snipping part of her ear off to remove the tag, and since then her ears have looked intact so did I misinterpret what was happening on the TV?

CurbsideProphet · 19/07/2021 11:31

@WorldsBestBoss oh yes I forget about Nicole! Hopefully they can all be a happy family together with a nice neat ending 😀

CurbsideProphet · 19/07/2021 11:33

@Freecuthbert I kept looking at June's ear. One definitely has something on the top of it. I presume the tag would cover any damage that June caused by pulling off the original one? That's my interpretation anyway.

WorldsBestBoss · 19/07/2021 11:39

[quote CurbsideProphet]@Freecuthbert I kept looking at June's ear. One definitely has something on the top of it. I presume the tag would cover any damage that June caused by pulling off the original one? That's my interpretation anyway.[/quote]
The tag is definitely there - you can see it really clearly when June is saying goodbye to Janine.

Freecuthbert · 19/07/2021 11:44

[quote CurbsideProphet]@Freecuthbert I kept looking at June's ear. One definitely has something on the top of it. I presume the tag would cover any damage that June caused by pulling off the original one? That's my interpretation anyway.[/quote]
That would make more sense... for some reason I thought she lopped the top of her ear off, a good chunk!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 19/07/2021 12:15

[quote CurbsideProphet]@WorldsBestBoss oh yes I forget about Nicole! Hopefully they can all be a happy family together with a nice neat ending 😀[/quote]
But since we now know from Serena’s pregnancy that Fred wasn’t firing blanks, there’s a possibility Fred could be her father.
And given how many men are allowed access to their children despite being convicted of violent crimes or paedophilia, I reckon being a war criminal wouldn’t get in the way either.
Fred has never given any sign of caring about children but (supposing Fred and Serena end up doing some kind of deal with the prosecutors and get out of prison) the possibility of access could give him power over Serena.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 19/07/2021 12:51

I think June knows that Nick is not squeaky clean because when Fred and Serena took her to (?) Boston to speak to the Swiss they refused to speak to Nick because he had committed atrocities.

She knows he's done awful things. She has too.

Agree about Lawrence, he's an economist and that's what he cares about most of all. He set up a good model for Gilead and it has failed because idiots didn't follow his instructions. Now that his wife is dead he is pretty rudderless as far as human connections go. I think he enjoys June, finds her amusing and interesting and I think he respects her, but I doubt he'd put himself at risk to save her. He's an intellectual who cares about markets and had the opportunity to build a new way of creating a functioning, wealthy society - which has been ruined by people he regards as incompetents, so, he's pretty annoyed by that.

LOVE the new Lydia. I think June telling her that she had failed to protect the handmaids might have an impact on the way she treats this new "batch". Perhaps she'll be less vicious, she needs for them to trust her so they'll tell the secrets of the households. She's worked out enough to be of value to Commander Lawrence, but, really, she could be hugely powerful with her inside knowledge. I really enjoyed her trying to blackmail him and him escalating her proposal. Perhaps they'll land up working together to get rid of the dead wood Commanders who's poor decisions have destroyed the vision they both had for Gilead.

I think the writing is still really strong. And I'm very glad to see Moira and reckon Janine is alive but under rubble so they'll find her in a field hospital.

And then they'll all live happily ever after

Tulipomania · 19/07/2021 12:52

I think it's jumped the shark now.

I'll probably carry on watching, but not with much enthusiasm.

I love Elisabeth Moss, but getting a bit tired of her angry face direct to camera now.

YoutubeZoom · 19/07/2021 13:16

Serena said something like "we would not be where we are without Nick", so I assumed he was one of the terrorists at the Capitol. Or definitely had a well-known active role in the insurrection.

I cannot remember the first few scenes with Nick. But wasn't he made a driver and joined the Waterford household to keep an eye on them?

Crinkle77 · 19/07/2021 13:17

@GoingGently

I had assumed the new handmaids were fresh captives from the Chicago area (and other war torn territories...)
New handmaid's are also 'fallen' women from inside Gilead. Remember the family that June stayed with in season 2 when she was on the run? The husband was killed for helping June and the wife sent to be a handmaid.
Saidtoomuch · 19/07/2021 13:19

I agree with the theory that Nichole is Fred's. In some twist he'll end up with parental rights whilst June dithers on the border, then June will have to fight to get her back.

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