Undercover Police: Hunting Paedophiles

[MonicaGellerBing]

Channel 4 now. Anyone watching? I'm finding it really hard to watch and listen to. How the undercover police do that job talking to perverts all day using that language I don't know, what an amazing job they do though.

It's really hard to watch but I want to see the conclusion of the man they've arrested.

[Handsoffstrikesagain]

mama paedophiles are the most manipulative people on earth. They lie, they deceive, they don’t know any other way. They are not like other people. Never ever believe a sex offender that tells you they were just trying to understand, they’re having a breakdown, they were curious etc. They should have HABITUAL LIAR stamped on their foreheads.

[Handsoffstrikesagain]

The officers that dealt with Peter Scully received counselling I believe and one was crying and very visibly distressed in a documentary I saw. They are incredible in remaining level headed and keeping their cool. It must take all their strength not to want to squeeze the life out of them sometimes.

[Handsoffstrikesagain]

Oh and for anyone on here that has children, particularly those of an age that are using social media etc, please look up and read ‘minor attracted persons’ (MAP). They are gradually increasing their presence under this guise online, particularly in ‘safe spaces’ like Twitter where I don’t see very much being done about them.

[BillyAndTheSillies]

Usually I can absorb this sort of programme but last nights I really struggled with. Whether it was because no matter how small or how blurred, they were actually showing snippets of footage via the officers computer which suddenly made it more real? Honestly I don't know but I can't remember the last time a tv programme distressed me like that.

All that went through my mind was "those poor children". Some who know no different, and are at risk day in and day out. It was heartbreaking. Those men were hideous and there are no excuses for their behaviour no matter what they thought excused them. Monsters.

[chestnutSquash]

Twitter is fine with paedophiles. It is just women they hate.

[Needsmustnow]

Finished watching it. I had presumed that some of you were exaggerating with how upsetting it would be, but I found it very unforgiving and distressing. You know the bit that got me crying - when the on-call lawyer was sitting in on that interview and listening to the evidence. I found it so easy to empathise with his position, to be hearing all of that out and to be trying to take it on board and to maintain your professional composure. How he didn't ask for the interview to be paused I don't know.

[chestnutSquash]

Yes. I felt sorry for that lawyer.

[Skirmish1]

Unfortunately the scale of it is difficult to contend with. This paragraph from the NCA's assessment last year tells you just a bit about it:
Based on our developing understanding, including our assessment of the number of registered sex offenders who are being managed for CSA offending (35,000) and the number of offenders on the dark web (250,000), we have high confidence that there are a minimum of 300,000 individuals in the UK who pose a sexual threat to children, either through contact abuse or online. This level of confidence is
supported by data from various sources, including from Stop It Now!, who state that in 2019, 94,342 people from the UK contacted their confidential helpline and self-help website to address their sexual attraction to children, increasing from 43,000 people in the previous year.

Those figures are just from the UK and will have undoubtedly risen by the publication of the next assessment later this year due to covid.

[PlinkPlink]

I watched this today and I felt sick the whole way through. I thought it was going to be like those 24 hours in police custody things...
I wasnt really expecting such explicit detail. I cant stop thinking about those poor children...

Has anyone found anything that we can get involved in to help, as general Joe public?

[MabelMoo23]

My husband turned it on last night. I had to tell him to turn it off after 2 minutes

A friend of mine works in child protection for the police. She’s a detective. Hard as nails. Simply because you have to be

She’s seen things that many of us couldn’t even begin to comprehend in our darkest darkest nightmares

[mrsbyers]

I only managed a couple of minutes , once the chat room chat started it really upset me - I hope they did manage to prosecute some of those scum

[ReluctantHomeschooler]

I personally believe that paedophiles are born not made. It is a sexual preference. The reason I believe this is that I have known a few and they had some similar physical features.

If I am right, then what then? Can you establish someone’s sexual preference from looking at their hormones or some other physical indicators?

And if you can, then what? If you could establish that an unborn baby had the markers for paedophilia, should you terminate the pregnancy?

[Hearnoevilspeaknoevil]

This is the delusiory sentencing handed out.
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/07/ex-labour-mp-eric-joyce-gets-suspended-jail-sentence-over-child-abuse-image

[Needsmustnow]

Have you any references to support your theory @ReluctantHomeschooler? With respect it is an extremely worrying way of thinking.

[ReluctantHomeschooler]

@Needamust it’s not a theory, it’s just anecdotal based on my (very limited) experience. But it’s possible that paedophilia IS a an innate sexual preference and, if so, what on earth do we do about it?

[duckalemon]

@ReluctantHomeschooler

Can you please elaborate. What features?

[ReluctantHomeschooler]

@duckalemon No, not prepared to do that, sorry. As I said, it’s just my own personal experience.

[Pebbledashery]

God imagine being thst lawyer. I could never work in Law.. Having to represent scum like that because they have the right to adequate legal representation. Sickening.

[Handsoffstrikesagain]

There is some research in the public domain to support what reluctant is saying.

[Whatisthismadness1]

I dont think I have ever posted in a forum before about anything. But this has absolutely ruined me and just need to vent. These are vile excuses for human beings and to think there are so many of them! That monster and his bulls#*t story about wanting to talk to someone and that horror show on his phone, f@#king hell, I am scarred for life, crying my eyes out, so so shocked. How to sleep after that. The men and women in the teams that work these cases are superheroes and deserve medals for what they put themselves through.

[TravellingTilbury]

A really good but hard to watch speech by Blake Lively speaking out against child porn and paedophilic:

[TravellingTilbury]

[quote ReluctantHomeschooler]@Needamust it’s not a theory, it’s just anecdotal based on my (very limited) experience. But it’s possible that paedophilia IS a an innate sexual preference and, if so, what on earth do we do about it?[/quote]
Child abuse and torture is not a sexual preference and never will be no matter how woke the wokers want sexual preferences to be.

[Hearwego]

I’m fairly hardened to lots of things but the program was distressing. Channel 4 really do cover these taboo subjects.
The parts about being babies being assaulted will haunt me. No way could I watch those clips like those officers do, I’d be totally messed up.
Sadly these dark web videos, or whatever it’s called, well I guess these children could
be from anywhere so it must be impossible to catch the perpetrators mustn’t it?
The sad reality is there isn’t the capacity to deal with these people, whether it’s the people making them or joe bloggs who downloads them.
Those police officers must be highly trained, I’d never be able to sleep again thinking of those poor babies.