Unforgotten

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I saw a trailer for this the other evening but DC were running around and being loud so I missed most of it. Does anyone know when it’s starting please? I don’t want to miss it as it’s brilliant!

I'm not hopeful, tbh

Tragic could still mean she's alive. Though I think it's definitely the end of her police career so no more Cassie.

@Eve

when Dean called to ask for info for his drug running - he mentioned the usual payment plus a bit on top, we then found out later it was Ram he called.

Cassie mentioned last night about getting the bank statements - so that will uncover the relationship between the 2 of them.

My impression was that Dean had been called by someone else to do a job, and that he had then involved Ram to help out with that job, not that Ram instigated the job in the first place.

Would be a bit rubbish if the actual programme makers were spoilering something crucial in their synopses.

I will feel conned if Cass is dead and we don't even get her in the final episode

I reckon it’ll start with a funeral so we think it’s Cassie (as she won’t be there because she’s in hospital) but it won’t be. Standard bait’n’switch.

It could be the other driver dead, or someone else as a result of the crash? I mean obviously side on impact like that isn't good, but we shouldn't assume and it would be odd to point to a massive spoiler, especially for the series conclusion.

I'm wondering if the other car will even be anyone that we know.

It showed the others in cars (except Dean?) but might not be one of them?

I had wondered if the murderer was Dean because Walsh recognised him & knew his family connections?

Do we think that the pen will go missing?

Also, this has probably been mentioned, but Liz drove the car so only 4 of them dealt with the body.

So how did it end up at Rob's?

Or had they already decided this before he was stopped for du?

@diddl - a few of us on the thread have said that we think the car crash was not caused by any of the suspects.

[quote Chicchicchicchiclana]@diddl - a few of us on the thread have said that we think the car crash was not caused by any of the suspects.[/quote]
Me included

She just wasn’t looking where she was going

Ok folks, sorry!

I'm sure I read that there wasn't going to be another series of this. If Cass does, then that would explain it

I've been making the mistake of flicking between this thread & the LoD one.

Is it this one where it is thought that someone isn't in it next week?

Would someone be kind enough to pm me?
Thanks!

I think Dean was the killer. Ram is too obvious and the CPR doesn’t fit. I don’t think it was Fiona but I wouldn’t rule out Liz.

I would not be surprised if one of them was the murderer and another one strongly involved maybe Liz with the body. Definitely too much emphasis on Liz driving the car back.

I think we will find out more about Fogerty; I recall Cassie mentioning in the last episode they hadn’t looked into him enough.

Oh my at the ending in the last episode. I think Cassie was concentrating, she’d put her phone down and then carried on driving and the car that hit her was accelerating fast. No idea if it was any of our murder suspects or someone else but definitely intentional.

I hope she pulls through but I think Sunny will oversea much of the last episode. Sadly I think this is the end of Cassie’s police career. If it is I would like it to carry on with Sunny in charge.

It really feels like they have too much to fit into one episode.

I've just caught up, didn't see this thread before even though I'm a huge unforgotten fan. I've skimmed some pages so sorry if this has been answered before.

Ram and his wife's baby - what is the point of that storyline? I can't work out what that little subplot has been included at all.

The subplot of Dean and his disabled son makes sense I think, in his speech at the fundraiser he seemed to have been 'reformed' by his love for his son and his the importance of his family life shows what he stands to lose. But the Ram thing? Just seems a bit pointless.

Fiona unraveling and confession to her children was faintly ridiculous but I think it was just that the dam had burst and she couldn't stop. A lot of her story makes no sense though, why pretend to have been in foster care just to avoid them finding out her dad was a copper? What? Why even would they happen upon his gravestone in the first place and if they did, so what? I don't get it. I also think it's weird that it's so unclear whether she is those children's mother - it must be deliberate because a few of us have been confused by it. So maybe it's showing her not to be a natural motherly type or something? The fake therapy license is also weird. She's lied a lot, more than the others it seems.

I don't think the fridge being unplugged and all that is going to be remotely relevant. It's just one of those tv inaccuracies.

I thought cassies accident was an accident, DH thought it was deliberate - can't wait to see who's right!

Oh and I think Dean is the killer. He wasn't there when Fiona and Liz found the other two with the body and Ram doing CPR, I think that's going to be relevant.

Diddl I keep getting confused between this and LOD thread too! :o

I’m not sure how I feel about Unforgotten sans Cassie. I just love NW so much and the way Cassie feels everything so deeply, it’s different this year because of her own shit taking over which makes uncomfortable viewing. In the past the way she cared so deeply for the people who were decades gone. I love Sunny too and TBH I will always watch the show as it’s well written but I’m not sure it would be the same without the dynamic between the pair.

Sorry terrible grammar in my post🤔😳

Magpie the pregnancy storyline might just be there to confuse us about Ram’s character rather than being important to the plot in itself. In his work and the interview he comes across horribly, this humanises (is that the right word?!) him as he’s a potentially doting father etc. It’s interesting though how he’s a father already yet we never see the others, is he actually a decent father to them. And of course his own dad ignoring him.

I love NW too but I actually think the whole team and extremely well acted and if Sunny was at the helm with Fran as his sidekick say, I think I'd still watch.

I thought that Sing but he hasn't actually been very 'human' about it in my opinion. His wife has and we've seen her conflict, but he's seemed a bit 'meh' about the whole thing. Plus there is the fact of his other children

The most human thing we have seen from him was the interaction with his dad where he wouldn't look at him. I'd like to see more of that back story because I think it would contextualise his behaviour.

The Liz/her mum relationship has been so interesting to watch though, excellent acting from both.

"A lot of her story makes no sense though, why pretend to have been in foster care just to avoid them finding out her dad was a copper?"

If I read it correctly, her mum died first.

Was she an only child?

If so she would have been responsible for the words on her Dad's gravestone??

the pregnancy storyline might just be there to confuse us about Ram’s character rather than being important to the plot in itself. In his work and the interview he comes across horribly, this humanises (is that the right word?!) him as he’s a potentially doting father etc. It’s interesting though how he’s a father already yet we never see the others, is he actually a decent father to them. And of course his own dad ignoring him

It struck me as part of the theme of parents letting their children down.

Martin/Cassie. He's going to leave his money to Jenny not Adam and whatever his brother's called

Matthew Walsh, the victim, he and his partner let down Jerome, the son who gave the Police a lead to his Uncle Clive Walsh

Mr Sidhu/Ram not communicating
Ram/changing his mind about the unborn child

Dean while being a caring parent to Jack realises how he's neglecting Casper's interests and in turn he's also let down by his family. His mother apologises to him

Liz/Eileen, say no more

Fiona and her Coppers' Copper father, well he let her down taking pride and letting her believe she had to follow his path when it wasn't one he wanted for himself. She's also letting down the children with her lies

The more you analyse Unforgotten the more you find in it to be analysed or chewed over.

That’s true. Even within the series he’s changed about it, at first seeming to be more keen (although there was still the thought of “and would you actually do any of the hard work of parenting...”) and then saying they shouldn’t because he might get in trouble due to the case etc. I have to admit it’s one of the subplots I’ve not quite kept track of as I got confused about the different stages of the testing etc, but also it was interesting to compare to the honesty of Marnie talking about Jack and how she blamed him etc, how hard it was :(

I’m rambling now sorry!

Argh hurry up Monday

It was all words I guess about how they should keep the baby no matter what but then he hadn’t actually done all the reading about it like she had, I’d forgotten that, was that when he went and got blind drunk instead?

I agree about there being more and more to analyse. I’m gutted I’m busy on Monday as I really wanted to watch the whole series in one go before the finale. I probably should prioritise my therapy session though. 😂 I’ll have to start Sunday instead.