The Crown Series 4

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Anyone else getting excited? The Diana trailer looks great. It's on Netflix on 15th November.

Yes southeast thanks I knew I'd read it somewhere!

The press have often said Andrew is the Queen's favourite and the same for Philip re. Anne.

I did laugh at the Queen's ballerina comment in episode 9... so petty but so funny

@icedpurple
Thanks for responding.
Firstly, the reason I ask about royalist or Tory is because in my experience they are linked, the same audience. Although, also I am not sure if they should be.

I kind of get what you're saying about Olivia Coleman but to me the queen has always come across as a cold, heartless woman.
Hbc... yes she does okay similar characters but her own posh accent to me works and again the cold acting. I did think the actor in the previous series was more likeable but she was more vivacious and I don't know where the reality is best placed.

I do think they coyness in Diana is over acting in some scenes. I find it interesting that people say Thatcher put on a deep posh voice. Says something about the times.

I am intrigued why people still hate Charles, especially those that disliked Diana (proper royalists) because he appears to have a heart. I am happy he is with Camilla finally. Funny, it's generally the same people that dislike Meghan Markle.

What a cruel life to have to live... why???? Get rid of them all

I'm really enjoying it. Diana is mesmerising. Camilla is perfectly cast. I love Anne. Not sure about Thatcher.
I think the mouse was.delieberate. Its well known BP is not luxurious.

I think Olivia Coleman has definitely grown into the role in series lV. The actress who plays Princess Diana is a real sweetheart. Gillian Anderson is more like Thatcher than Thatcher was herself. It is generally very well cast and I've enjoyed it more than the previous series.

Icedpurple: Episode 8! You're having a busy day.

I’ve had it on in the background all day!
I watched the first 3 episodes properly this morning but I’ve been mainly listening/ half watching whilst doing other stuff.
I’ll watch it again properly over the next few weeks!
😂😅

I didn't grow up here. Can someone who did and observed it contemporaneously give me a steer on whether an entire episode on a Fagan is proportionate? I know Morgan is trying to make a point.

did MT always have the strange head tilt? and talk only out of one side of the mouth?

@Posteni1

I can’t get over the fact that Philip raped Jamie Fraser... but that’s just me...

What????

Season 4 episode 5. This is verrrrry dreary. Hope it improves.

I'm fascinated. Biggest load of drivel ever

On episode 4 Are people not liking Olivia Coleman because she appears to at least have a heart?
I've always thought of her as a cold, mean woman.
Probably the reason I don't respect her

@derxa , just to clarify what that poster meant, Tobias Menzies played a character who rapes another man ( Jamie Fraser) in outlander.

For those baffled by the Jamie Fraser reference, he is a character in Outlander, in which Tobias Menzies plays a spectacularly nasty villain.

Nobody is accusing the actual Prince Philip of doing anything of the kind.

OMG! discussing the film "The Awakening of Emily" (Queen and Andrew)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_(film)

Synopsis
Emily Foster (Koo Stark) is an American-born seventeen-year-old brought up in London. Her father died when she was a small child, while her mother, Margaret Foster (Sarah Brackett), is supported by a lover. The film, set in 1928, follows Emily as she returns home from a finishing school in Switzerland to her mother's country house in the English countryside, where she meets several characters who would like to seduce her, and follows her induction into sensual pleasures. Richard Walker (Victor Spinetti), her mother's lover, is a middle-aged man-about-town who quietly sets his sights on Emily, while a young American writer and schoolteacher named James Wise (Richard Oldfield) tries to impress her by sensual acrobatics in his flying machine, but her first sexual experience is a lesbian encounter with Augustine Wain (Ina Skriver), a Swedish painter who lives nearby. Emily loses her virginity to the painter's husband, Rupert Wain (Constantin de Goguel).

Very on the nose

The writer never read 'Diana My True Story'

How do you know that?!

That's a very silly, provocative reference to Jamie Fraser.

To be fair, everyone is speculating on various conversations that may or may not have taken place. No one knows what may or may not have been said at any given moment. Chucking Jamie Fraser into the mix is no less credible than that get reciting poetry to the queen or Charles phoning camilla to discuss the family telling him to marry Diana.

It’s a drama series. Not first source historical fact.

They couldn't even get the engagement interview right

Which bit? I remember him saying 'whatever being in love means' but didn't see the significance at the time.

@jeez2020

On episode 4 Are people not liking Olivia Coleman because she appears to at least have a heart? I've always thought of her as a cold, mean woman. Probably the reason I don't respect her

I think you're reading way too much into this and making way too many assumptions about people.

It's just a TV show.

But interestingly, they didn't include several things that did happen according to Diana. Eg. Charles telling her she is chubby, Charles telling her he doesn't love her the day before the wedding, the tea towel remark from her sister etc.

I think Charles got off very lightly in this IMHO.

As Jamie Fraser is a character from a completely different drama, it can't be remotely compared to fictional moments in The Crown!