Married at first sight Australia on E4

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Anyone watching? The Sydney couple are never going to last. She’s so annoying, surely just on it to get on tv??

Have their ever been a couple from these shows that have stayed married?

@SchadenfreudePersonified

You were right about Nadia's original expression dimples

Yes - I saw it, too.

And me. She had the same reaction I would have done - wtf?

This whole Jonsey Buissness with the twins and Abandrew is pissing me off if they were so close before this experience would they not have been invited to his wedding? And him to their ,s?

I think Abandrew is sly and manipulative. Anthony is still awful.
Susan is so nice, even and fair.

Good episode tonight.

Susan is very honest and truthful. I admired her for speaking to the twins. Michelle gets a look come over her face when someone questions her. She does it with Nick! She really doesn’t believe she has any faults. She really does have some of Anthony’s qualities! You can see she’s much sharper and has more self assurance than her twin, who just sits behind her!

We laughed at Anthony’s comments about horsey people being totally different and how their horses come first (I have horses and my husband nodded right through his comments!)

Why must the ones on the verge of breaking up go into the dinner party pretending they’re ok? (just for the drama!). Why can’t they just be honest

I don't get the Cheryl hate at all. Things didn't work with the first match and she seemed genuine enough to me with AbAndrew. He however is a complete snake. He didn't have her back when Anthony and the twins went after her at last week's dinner party and is loving the poor me attention this week. Happy enough to join the pile in on Cheryl rather than admit any faults of his own. Looks like Lauren had a lucky escape.

Abandrew doing the woe is me act - knob.
Anthony on usual form - weird starey eyes.
Sharon ‘I’m not a bully’ - defo fancies Abandrew even if she doesn’t realise it.
Thank god for lovely Susan.

@x2boys The show doesnt care for Simon's vulnerability/grief at all. They've been pushing for him to cry and break down. That's the story arc they'd rewritten for him and for weeks he's not given in.

Abandrew is just awful. I think considering he is older by 13 years, Cheryl comes across as more mature than him.

I’m laughing how everyone has done a U turn re Abandrew. Everyone loved him last week! I never loved him, but I don’t see the hate for him either. He hasn’t had a nice week with Cheryl, who didn’t defend him from her dad and pushed him away when he tried to kiss her. If I was those two I’d have not bothered going to the dinner party personally!

I have been binging this and finally caught up. I know I'm in a minority of one but I quite liked stripper-boy. It was very entertaining when he put the experts on the spot. They couldn't admit they match for drama so were left stuttering.
Abandrew is creepy and desperate to be discovered for his songwriting. I think he was very rude to be late for visiting Cheryl's dad when he knew she was stressed about it and I also thought he was underdressed. Then the way he kept criticising Cheryl's driving - yuck. He is so unattractive. I did wonder if Cheryl's dad knew Abandrew had kept them late, etc, and that's why he gave him a hard time. I've also known Scottish working class men who have that very aggressive, confrontational approach just to see how people respond. And although Cheryl's dad was awful, he's right about Abandrew not being right for his DD.
I am way too invested in all of this

“The experts irritate me - talk about stating the obvious all the time!” I think it is like they are narrating the bleeding obvious!

"I’m not the biggest fan of Cheryl but few she really has been done over this week. I felt sorry for her at the dinner party." I do feel very sorry for her, Jonathan, Abandrew, her dad, all doing things crappily towards her.

I think the experts are totally wrong about Nick and Sharon’s connection being deeper than Michelle and Jesse’s connection. I think Sharon is faking it, just waiting to dump him.

I’ve noticed that most of the couples do not kiss much (except for Susan and Sean, of course). I am not sure I have seen Nick and Sharon kiss much.

Not that I want to see that, just it's a sign of feeling but hang on, after all that kissing Sean and Susan are now just friends.

How nice that Anthony was able to work out Sean was a horse person and able to do his own little impersonation of a horse!

Personally, I think Sharon has proved herself to be quite bullying in the way she spoke to Susan. She keeps stating how long she has known Andrew, so what. She also broke his confidence. Telling Susan about Andrew’s difficulties with Cheryl.

Cheryl is coming off very well, I think. And so is Nadia.

I have an irrational dislike of Nadia. I think it’s the way she always smiles faintly whatever’s said. More rationally it’s also the way she endorses Anthony’s 1950’s comments about being a provider etc. so enthusiastically.

The only ones I really like are Simon and Arlene, Susan and Jesse though.

Poor Cheryl - she's had a really crappy journey on this show right from the outset. Timeline of her experience:
The 'popular girls' imply she's an ogre,
shitty unsupportive dad,
matched with a knob,
being frozen out by said knob for not instantly finding him attractive
Shit dinner party
Gets cheated on textually by knob husband
'Divorces' at the commitment ceremony
Finds happiness briefly with Andrew
Really shit dinner party where she's allowed to be torn to pieces.
Shit home stay because Andrew gets arsey that she didn't melt at his crappy song and snog his face off.
Shit home stay at hers because Andrew turned into a twat.
Boyfriend twat gets to meet Cheryls even bigger twat dad, it goes horribly.
Twat boyfriend moves out.
Twat boyfriend totally betrays her at the dinner party.

If she is trying to become an influencer then I wish her luck - at least she'll have got something out of this experience.

Put like that, it's been pretty relentless, Trains, and she's actually been pretty dignified.

I don't get the Cheryl hate beyond jealously that she is young and more attractive than many of the others...

The twin having a go at Cheryl las week and Susan last week well I think she is a bully. It's all the bullshit of "I'm direct and if you find it hurtful that's your problem" - basically I can be as nasty as I want...

I am really disappointed in the series because it's clear it's about car crash reality TV viewing rather than trying to genuinely match people via science.

I think Abandrew is sly and manipulative.

I think so, too. He doesn't like to be crossed or criticised - and he was well p*ssed when Cheryl didn't melt into his arms after that rubbish song n the beach.

However I'm wondering if Cheryl is either in a serious relationship IRL, or if something has happened to her that she avoids even the slightest physical intimacy. (Daddy issues?)

I can understand her not wanting to have a full on snog with a man she barely knows, but a peck on the cheek or even lips for the wedding photos wouldn't have been inappropriate. Lt's face it - she's of an age and culture where many women are quite happy to go to bed with someone they have only met that night - but she has kept both of her "husbands" well at arm's length.

Her father is very "protective" - I don't want to suggest that it's more than that, but I wonder if the way he grills her boyfriends and is so aggressive towards them has led her to subconsciously feel that she can't trust men - at all - and that has made her reluctant to even have a hug?

The show doesnt care for Simon's vulnerability/grief at all. They've been pushing for him to cry and break down. That's the story arc they'd rewritten for him and for weeks he's not given in.

I thought it was cruel the way they were telling him he MUST confront his grief etc - grieving is a complex and very personal process.

I think that he, Jesse and Big Andrew are the nicest of the remaining men by a very long chalk.

Simon has a quiet and gentle dignity that is sometimes painful to watch - I feel that Alene, lovely as she is, has been encouraged to push him to his limits and has foolishly done so. I'm glad he has good friends to support him. I was also impressed that when his groomswoman asked if he and Alene had been intimate he said "No" - none of this coy "That's for you to wonder" stuff. He is confident enough in his own masculinity to admit that nothing intimate has happened (or he is protecting her reputation - she's from a culture which would frown on this, I think). Either way, he proves himself a gentleman- and a gentle man - at every turn.

Jesse is far to good for Michelle - and I think he's starting to realise it. Good. She would milk him dry and throw away the husk.

Big Andrew will never have a serious relationship while he has that set of "mates". One in particular was determined not to like Vanessa and was pretty spiteful about her, just by his manner and "I see no spark".

I think he's jealous - and he certainly doesn't want to lose an amiable drinking pal that I suspect he patronises.

"Sharon & Michelle" reminds me of Eastenders. Would have loved for them to be matched with "Phil & Grant".

I miss Debbie.

Cheryl thinks of her father as protective - but really he’s controlling, surely? He was verbally aggressive to both Jonathan and Abandrew immediately on meeting them, perhaps because he doesn’t want Cheryl (his youngest daughter, we’re told) to find love and settle down. I don’t think we know anything about whether Cheryl’s mum is around (?) but perhaps Dad has an unhealthy emotional dependence on his daughter.

"Sharon & Michelle" reminds me of Eastenders.

I quite liked stripper-boy. It was very entertaining when he put the experts on the spot.

I didn't like him - I thought he was a gaslighting bully

BUT

I totally agree with you about the way he confronted the "experts" who obviously have NO BLOOMING IDEA what they are talking about.

He really showed them up for the charlatans they are.

This is why psychology finds it hard to be taken seriously as a science. too many BS-ers about.

Cheryl thinks of her father as protective - but really he’s controlling, surely?

Yup!