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I MAY DESTROY YOU - mon and tue bbc 1045

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Blondeshavemorefun · 08/06/2020 11:50

New dram series starts tonight on bbc 1

With only hours left to deliver a draft of a book to her publishers , writer Arabella is tempted into a night out with a friend ........

the series is set in London and centers around the story of a young woman who must rebuild her life after her drink is spiked with a date rape drug

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CheshireChav · 27/06/2020 10:23

I'm still giving Theo the benefit of the doubt 😆

I don't think it would 'fit' with the message of the programme not to portray her as a victim of sex used in a nefarious manner. Though this may not necessarily mean she has turned out well ... oh, I'm conflicted now!! 🧐

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 27/06/2020 10:48

Re the phone thing: only Terry makes it clear she doesn't have a camera phone. Bella says "A camera inside the phone, y'know ..." - so just reiterating how marvellous the technology is. She doesn't say she herself does not have a camera phone.

This section of dialogue is quite choppy and disjointed - and given what MC has said in interviews about having to massively cut down her original scripts because they were all too long - I suspect some of the discussion is missing. (Perhaps it was supposed to show the relative levels of affluence amongst the three? Marcus has an absent father/ Disney dad who sends extravagant gifts, Terry doesn't have access to the latest tech; Bella does - only the explanation of how she came by it is omitted.)

Going out on a limb - I'm wondering if Bella has always seemed the more fortunate friend, even from their schooldays, and Terry sees this becoming more pronounced now they're adults.

The next bit of dialogue, on their sneezing and tears, is positively Shakespearian. I could watch it a million times.

CheshireChav · 27/06/2020 11:24

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The next bit of dialogue, on their sneezing and tears, is positively Shakespearian. I could watch it a million times.^

Yes, particularly poignant at the moment

muckandnettles · 27/06/2020 11:58

@PerditaProvokesEnmity aha, yes I see what you mean about the 'may' in the title. I was taking it very literally, thinking someone now has power to destroy someone else, but I think you are right that it's more subtle than that and more about the lives they are living. I think some viewers might miss the point when they watch it and see the series as presenting a way of living that the writer approves of and sees as normal. I think she is showing that although the surface is permissive and liberating, the old abuses and inequalities are still there.

NewNewt · 27/06/2020 12:50

I just rewatched ep 6. There are 2 different support group occasions where Theo does indeed repeat the "icy bitch" line word for word. They are wearing different clothes and Arabella has a different headscarf on. Also, on the first occasion, we do see Arabella hand over some money for the session, the 2 women are collecting money at the end (dark hair, stripey top) and Arabella gives her money to the girl in the Stripey top. Then atvthe end, it is this girl that hands over all the collected money, it seems, to Theonin the envelope. Sounds like change, so could be a contribution for coffees I suppose.

Ulysses · 27/06/2020 13:20

There's a review of episodes 7 and 8 and there is a further return to the support group in episode so it is a continuing storyline. I'd be really surprised if it turned into Theo seeking vengeance against Arabella, it doesn't seem that sort of show. There's part of me hoping that Theo redeems herself and that's she's not a malevolent force, but the ambiguity is there.

I'm heavily invested now and it's a good thing it's on weekly so I've got time to explore my own thought processes about the issues it's navigating. It's enlightening for sure.

Babymamamama · 28/06/2020 01:02

I'm loving loving this series so far. I do wonder if Terry is such a good a friend as she claims. I didn't understand why she couldn't tell from Arabella the threesome guys had gone if Arabella was such a good friend. Arabella does seem to have held a resentment for Terry leaving her in the club in Ostia although in truth she came to no real harm that night thanks to Biagio. I assumed in the childhood scenes for Theo that her step father was abusing her but I'm not sure why I thought that that. I Also wondered why Biagio had become so non plussed with Bella when he evidently liked her at the beginning. He clearly found her drug taking quite "messy", maybe that was off putting for him. What wonderful acting by all the cast. Brilliant. Can't wait to see what unfolds.

famousforwrongreason · 28/06/2020 09:13

Whoever put up thread that maybe kwame wasn't raped. He was definitely raped. He was made to have sex against his will without a condom which was also against his will.
I'm intrigued by theo. There's something not right, her mum at the least gave her terrible boundaries and the sex thing at school was vile. She has been abused in some way I'm sure.
Can't wait for the next episodes. It's heartbreaking, funny and brilliant all at once

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 28/06/2020 09:36

Were Kwame and his Grindr date having penetrative sex?
he was then raped without a condom and the police asked him if it was penetrative and he said he might have to check with hhis finger?

poor Kwame, so belittled and so very wrong treatment by the police

CheshireChav · 28/06/2020 10:27

@famousforwrongreason @CrowdedHouseinQuarantine

I took it that the first time they had sex, the bloke (reluctantly) used a condom. I then thought that he had raped him, not using a condom, but I don't think he did ....

Outside, Kwame Googled 'non consensual dry humping' before he went to the police. This makes me think that they are exploring how perpetrators get away with sexual assault and victims feel unable to report it as it's not 'proper rape' ... just look at how he was treated.

Babymamamama · 28/06/2020 11:18

Also I was intrigued by Simon's caginess when Arabella tried to ask him what happened on their night out. Was he or wasn't he with her when she ended up in Camden. If he wasn't why would he say that he was there but so unconvincingly?

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 28/06/2020 11:20

I think Simon left her, or we did see her stagger out, but he went to Other woman's, and obviously didnt want to say this to his wife

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 28/06/2020 11:32

Of course! So much has happened I'd forgotten about Simon's extra-curricular life - while continuing to wonder why she was left alone that night.

On the other hand, one gets the impression that her group of friends always did gradually split up as an evening progressed and they hooked up with new people ...

NewNewt · 28/06/2020 12:53

I though Camden was where the other woman lived so the fact she ended up there suggests they went back to that girls flat? I though simon was being cagey because maybe him and his american cousin drugged both girls and went back for an orgy, as the other girl said she felt like she'd been spike too. I wonder if its the american cousin whos been arrested?

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 28/06/2020 13:19

That also sounds feasible! Grin

Tying my faulty memory in knots now ...

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 28/06/2020 13:22

Confused, thought arabella ended up at other woman flat by retrace Simon uber?

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 28/06/2020 13:22

Perhaps we will find out eventually

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 28/06/2020 13:24

thought arabella ended up at other woman flat by retrace Simon uber?

Yes, but that was after the night in question, once she started investigating.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 28/06/2020 13:37

Yes so we don't know she went there before

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 28/06/2020 13:38

She needs to Google my time line

louise5754 · 28/06/2020 19:29

Hi. When in the meeting with the editor and Arabella first mentioned Zayn raped her was she imagining saying it? As no one mentioned it.

What he did with the condom was awful but was it rape? The video was shared on social media was that fair?

I can't believe their have been 3 threesomes mentioned already.

I'm rewatching them all as I think I've missed bits.

NewNewt · 28/06/2020 19:43

We know she went to camden before because thats why she went round to Simons and asked to look at his uber receipts - her bank statements showed she had taken money out of a cashpoint in Camden late that night when she was checking them with her friends even though she had no memory of being there. That's why she asked Simon did we get an uber to Camden?

CheshireChav · 28/06/2020 20:02

@louise5754

Hi. When in the meeting with the editor and Arabella first mentioned Zayn raped her was she imagining saying it? As no one mentioned it.

What he did with the condom was awful but was it rape? The video was shared on social media was that fair?

I can't believe their have been 3 threesomes mentioned already.

I'm rewatching them all as I think I've missed bits.

I suppose it is a form of rape, she consented to 'protected' sex, not unprotected sex.
Ulysses · 28/06/2020 20:15

Yes, it appears that he imagines her saying it and there's another scene that's more clear that it's in his imagination. Therefore, an admission of his own guilt and a clear indication that he knows he's in the wrong.

In an earlier later scene she's listening to a podcast about guys posting on Reddit about doing this with intention and it clicks with her that he's violated her. When she outs him at the book reading and explains what he did taking the condom off and gaslighting her and that he has done it to other women too. She clarified that he isn't just 'a bit rapey' but has committed rape under UK law.

dorthopa · 28/06/2020 21:28

Ejaculating inside someone without their consent is definitely rape.