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KILLING EVE 3. Starts MONDAY 13th April - iPlayer thread - NO SPOILERS

437 replies

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/04/2020 05:20

Whoop

I can’t wait

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LilacTree1 · 21/05/2020 10:38

“ She was going to kill Bertha in the garden but then got embroiled in that 'chase me, chase me' game before strangling her with rope, ”

But that was a kindness, like the little boy in the hospital.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 21/05/2020 10:46

I'd forgotten that she has a more 'humane' side - that episode with the little boy seems a very long time ago now.

CashewNut11 · 21/05/2020 20:24

Catandhiskit oh I only put forward my observations, the things I notice. I'm just curious to see how it's panning out. I like seeing how my expectations are being challenged! And that's not just through watching each mad episode, but also through the posters on this and other forums. Series 3 was never going to be more of the same... Smile

Clawdy · 21/05/2020 21:47

This thread has so many spoilers. Am I the only one who is just watching each Sunday night?

lazymum99 · 21/05/2020 22:05

This is the iPlayer thread. So we are a week ahead

Clawdy · 21/05/2020 22:13

There isn't another thread, not sure why.

CatAndHisKit · 22/05/2020 00:51

Cashew well we can only put our observatons here, what else? Grin
Yes, it couldn't just keep repeatng the formula, but they've done it so well in series 2 - I thought there was some steam left without going into a completely different 'families' direction, ther should hav been more of a mix of the old pattern and the new. For example the change in Vilanelle was too sudden and too strong but there was no clear reason (she was still being herself in ep 1 of the series) - I wish there was more of a realistic/complex change, if it had to be.
I suppose she wants to be one of the real bosses - so she's being petulant, but we'll see what she gets up to on new tean with Konstantin, maybe that will be interesting.

ChocolatelyAsFuck · 22/05/2020 12:47

My issue is that both the female leads are reactive, and not proactive, and that’s the death of drama. In S1 both leads had a clear Objective, and were extremely proactive in chasing their respective objectives, and lots of conflict and drama came from that.

This season, I don’t know what any of the characters want or what’s driving them. Villanelle wants to be something called a “Keeper” but she doesn’t seem especially motivated to pursue it, and it’s a very dry and boring objective since the audience doesn’t know or care about the difference between the various management job titles that apparently exists within the international assassin world. And the show breaks the cardinal rule “show don’t tell”. Villanelle keeps telling us, over and over, “I want to be Keeper”, but we aren’t shown it. What does she want other than that? What’s motivating her? Eve? Apart from that one moment in London she’s ignoring Eve. Finding her family? That was her passively reacting to Konstantin, not something she was driving. It’s all so vague and passive.

Eve’s situation is even worse. What’s her objective? To solve Kenny’s murder, to fix her marriage, to move on with her life, to hide away from the world eating Korean food?? The character is just drifting aimlessly, reacting to circumstances without any clear path.

And yeah all that is realistic, but good drama is not based on realism. S3 is ignoring all the cardinal rules of storytelling and that’s why it’s falling so flat.

LilacTree1 · 22/05/2020 13:31

Chocolate exactly. I don’t watch it for real life!

ChocolatelyAsFuck · 22/05/2020 16:00

Honestly I think it’s CAPSLOCK HARRY syndrome.

Writers put their characters through hell to create drama, then stop and think “crikey it this was real life they’d have PTSD” so throw in a bunch of chapters or episodes where that character mopes around looking miserable, as a sop towards emotional authenticity or being respectful towards mental health or something.

Even bloody 007 movies are doing it now. So annoying. Not everyone responds to trauma in the same way, and we don’t need to see someone’s post-trauma journey in a campy OTT fantasy-thriller about a gorgeous young woman who’s a top assassin and commits kills while wearing designer dresses and shopping for Build-a-Bears.

LilacTree1 · 22/05/2020 16:08

There’s a trend for back story and family shit, absolutely. I think it can be okay if it’s very subtle, but this has been crap.

I haven’t bothered with episode 6, I’ll keep an eye on this thread and see if anything becomes worth watching.

CashewNut11 · 22/05/2020 17:19

Loving your work ChocolatelyAsFuck, really enjoying your take on it.

And a lovely username too!

ChocolatelyAsFuck · 22/05/2020 17:28

Thank you, I shamelessly stole it from someone on the biscuit thread. Grin

LilacTree1 · 22/05/2020 18:37

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Villanelle and Eve feeling a bit lost after what’s happened.

But stretching it out over five episodes...?

It literally feels like there’s no plot for the season.

CatAndHisKit · 23/05/2020 01:39

so throw in a bunch of chapters or episodes where that character mopes around looking miserable, as a sop towards emotional authenticity or being respectful towards mental health or something.

yep that exactly! and it wasn't even gradual, but suddebly all about it, for all te main characters. Poor Carolyn tortured by daughter's whining but she's hte only one who stays true to her pre=series 3 self. The rest all gone mushy. That's what's irritating - it's suddenly a different type of show. I hope, but not much, that it's just a (prolonged) dip.

echt · 23/05/2020 03:08

Sharing so many of the misgivings here, though trailers for the next episode show a return of the mad frocks, which is encouraging.

Am I the only who first heard "Keeper" as "kipper", and then thought of Quidditch?

lotusbell · 23/05/2020 09:00

@ChocolatelyAsFuck, your are absolutely bob on with this!

RobuxBriberyIsMyLifeNow · 24/05/2020 00:05

@Clawdy There was a parallel thread for Sunday watchers but it did not garner as much traffic.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/3864283-Killing-Eve-3-starts-19-April-on-BBC1-NO-spoilers-please-from-those-a-week-ahead-on-iPlayer-Titled-edited-by-MNHQ
So this is the official post 6am Monday thread.
Things are not looking good for Konstantin.
I have enjoyed this series regardless but it has been haphazard.
What is a keeper other than that toy from the 80s? Grin
Why did Konstantin want to leave the 12 and what made him think he would ever get away with embezzlement?
Why did Eve have a renewed interest in Nico?
How are Eve and Carolyn even still alive at this point?
Did Konstantin arrange a hit on his own son?
Why would an exparo-like agency be privy to/continue to investigate Mi6 shit?

CatAndHisKit · 24/05/2020 00:52

Robux I'm sure K didn't think he was Kenny's father, when Kenny asked him, he must have thought of it but genyinely replied that he didn't know - and Carolyn didn't tell him otherwise in the car.

I doubt that he killed Kenny - the 12 arranged it as Kenny got into their accounts. I suppose he may have killed Kenny only if Konstantin was stealing the money and Kenny got too close to finding out (and they were talking on gthe phone about something so Kenny may have spilled to K that he's getting close). Still, I somehow don't think K would dared as he knows that Carolyn would finish him for that.

CatAndHisKit · 24/05/2020 00:53

*would have dared

Blondeshavemorefun · 24/05/2020 20:39

I’ve bumped other thread but don’t think many watch a week behind

Finally seen last weeks

Yah nico isn’t dead but gawd knows how survived

Is k kennys dad and hence the k initial

Plus obv isn’t her hubby as she said daughter was dads and Kenny hers - hunting wasn’t hubby as dad

Mind blank. Who was caroline hubby

V getting sloppy qnd Stabbed

But fun teaching k daughter to drive

And lol at running step dad over

What will happen in this weeks

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CatAndHisKit · 24/05/2020 21:22

Blonde Nico surviving is laughable - esp after those veyr realistic convulsions!
C's husband isn't relevant really, we sort of decided on tfhis thread that if K is Kenny's dad he didn't know tha hence possibly got Kenny in trouble or even was instrumental in killing him - but I think only if Konstantin was stealing the money from the 12's account. He wouldn't personally kill K otherwise. So I can't wait til tomorrow iplayer ep.
Interesting re K initials - maybe! But C chose not to confirm to K in the car that he was the dad (not deny though).

AdoptedBumpkin · 24/05/2020 21:53

I'm finding tonight's episode oddly relaxing. Now that is weird.

Blondeshavemorefun · 24/05/2020 22:05

If he wasnthis wouldn’t she said no he’s not yours

Or they could have mourned Kenny together

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CatAndHisKit · 24/05/2020 23:44

Blonde she's not interested in bonding emotional with K (or anyone really) - plus if K didn't know he was kenny's father, he wouldn't have genuinely miss/mourn him.
Yes she left it unanswered, but I think she just doesn't see it as relevant now, she also knows K is not to be trusted (esp after seeing him secretly visiting her house - and we know he 's bugged her house) so she's happy to leave him 'not knowing' as before. He didn't ask her either, did he?

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