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Deadwater Fell

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CassandrasCastle · 06/01/2020 10:56

Has anyone watched this?

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Fantababy · 24/01/2020 23:57

I was wondering if DT intended to kill the children to punish Kate but she wasn't meant to die. He's an impressively creepy bastard now. I think she snapped at the MIL because she feels defensive that the MIL knows what a bastard she's continuing to be married to.

Squigean · 25/01/2020 00:09

I think he might just get away with it and everyone will be miserable and fearful forever.

Though not entirely sure how that'll play out for a whole episode.

Werking · 25/01/2020 00:16

Her snapping at the MIL at the beach could have been partly for show to make Tom think they (still) didn’t get on. They could have formed an alliance as a result of their conversation in the kitchen shown tonight.

Graphista · 25/01/2020 02:44

“How would Tom be able to ensure that he was rescued and didn’t die? No-one would take that chance. It’s not him“ it maybe wasn’t intentional that he lived? Family annihilators however narcissistic do commit suicide too

He really is a nasty bastard. Reminds me of my dad with the way he was about Kate getting his mum a second serving. Not very obvious aggression but the undercurrent is there and neither woman dare challenge. Suspect his dad was same and his mum knows he’s turned out the same.

Like fuck he wouldn’t have fought back or tried to revive the kids

Absolutely no way Steve would be allowed to be involved in the interviewing like this - he’s too close to the suspect and with the detectives knowing that he knows Tom shagged his wife? Nope wouldn’t happen - there’s dramatic licence and there’s plain stupid!

“I'm pretty sure my DH would have hit the roof and we'd have been rowing about it for days.” With the kindest of intentions I think that’s probably because your dh is a decent kind man (yes I know that seems a counterintuitive answer) but with a certain type of man, who’s all about appearances to others outside the family home and is very controlling and CONTROLLED then in a public setting like this he would have APPEARED very reasonable, passive even...

...then once home shit would hit the fan!

I’ve witnessed exactly that with my parents - dad all reasonable about mums “mistakes” when other people especially adults around...then the SECOND the front door closes WHACK! “How fucking DARE you embarrass me like that! Don’t you ever shame me like that again in public!”

I’m sure you get the idea.

Men like this are desperately fearful of showing a chink in the armour or any hint of anything being wrong in case the whole house of cards collapses.

I thought midsummer beach birthday too and sunset can be coming on for 11pm up here and it can still be quite light come midnight too.

“Think it depends how much weight you put in the the words "fuck off"” also true, we Scots can be naturally pretty sweary, “bastard” and even “cunt” can be terms of deep affection.

Watching episode 3 now, “the mortgages, the debts” gambler? That would maybe explain a murder/suicide thing.

“Give him a plot involving mistaken identity or worse, twins and his head explodes.” My ex is the same! He’s too thick to follow twisty plots anyway - I had to explain the usual suspects to him I don’t know how many times and I’m still not sure he understood in the end! Add in similar looking characters and he was fucked!

“Some will be red herrings, some will be clues.” And some will just be continuity mistakes

“I don’t like it when he speaks to you like that” is unrealistic in my experience it’s more likely to be “why do you wind him up? Just don’t wind him up”

“That is what life is like in Scotland, according to the meedja!
I think it was shorthand for a lovely community rocked by a tragedy.” Basically yes, there was a cycling race/event at the heart of it. End of a route for a race?

“Men and their fucking egos” yep!!

“Would such a small town really have a proper police station and a prison?” Actually yes there’s one across the water from me in a small Scots town.

“I think the ending is going to be ambiguous & we won't know for sure who did it - we'll be left to make up our own minds.” I really hope not! I hate that “open ending” shite! It’s lazy!

The “I love you” and hug at the end? - his solicitors there, I think again that’s for show and the mother’s understandably terrified because she knows once they’re alone she’ll get grief and possibly her life is under threat?

A violent and chaotic ending proving it was Tom? With Steve able to heroically save the day and therefore rescue his career?

Squigean · 25/01/2020 06:50

Okay, been thinking about it. An episode of them living miserably and fearfully is unlikely..

I think he might try or succeed in killing his mum. Especially when he discovers she gave 'his' money to MIL.

There are debts, so this might be a factor. I'm still wondering if the fire was accidental. He injected everyone to kill them and get insurance and sympathy (extra bonus for the fact evil wife did it). She mentioned she didn't know what she was doing because of drugs, so did something possibly threw something in bin, that caused a fire.

Squigean · 25/01/2020 06:59

A violent and chaotic ending proving it was Tom? With Steve able to heroically save the day and therefore rescue his career?
Yes. But not the saving career bit. I'm still angling for life of misery. Jess will have one to all the babies, Steve and her will have split up. Both Steve and his ex will default to jess doing the lion's share of parenting as she does now. Ex-wife might include new baby in this out-sourced parenting, plus will get pregnant again "without really trying".

Only positive. Dylan will give up drugs and become a champion cyclist. Winning the cycle race annually.

Piggywaspushed · 25/01/2020 07:51

So... all theories and everything aside (I think DT forced Kate to kill her children possibly or made her comply with him) has ANYONE worked out why it's called Deadwater Fell!!?

Ohfrigginghellers · 25/01/2020 08:46

I think DT did it but might end up getting away with it!

Clawdy · 25/01/2020 08:47

Jess telling Steve she had sex with Tom was the worst thing she could do. It would have been more realistic if he had somehow found out. As it is, he will never forgive her now.

Janemarpling · 25/01/2020 09:40

I am loving it and don't think its boring at all.

Thinking back to a Broadchurch and a missing thread I do feel we can come up with slightly better endings and notice irrelevant details . So I do hope it is a good ending and not open ended. I need it clear or I will feel cheated.

Did her nail polish change from red to black from taking her pills to the beach scene or was that just the light from my TV?

Frazzled2207 · 25/01/2020 10:28

Did Jess tell Steve about sex with Tom before or after the fire? I'm now wondering if Steve is somehow guilty and went in to "rescue" them to make him look like the hero.

amaryl · 25/01/2020 10:30

The most ridiculous thing was challenging him over that video.
‘You look a bit emotional here can you tell me what you were thinking?’

They have no evidence

And he asks ‘is that what she used’ about the insulin
Then says he let her inject him??? Wouldn’t he know what she used
Surely when he woke up in hospital they’d have discussed what he was injected with?

I have no idea how this is going to end
I’d like to think it’s not him, but he’s a right bastard.

CheekyFucker · 25/01/2020 10:33

Insulin would not have resulted in the quick gentle death that Tom described, but he has already given contradicting timelines.

Squigean · 25/01/2020 10:34

After the fire.

In a slightly kinder way than Tom told Kate he had sex with Jess. (Also I dont think Jess actually did com. Think we are to interpret she didn't enjoy the sex with Tom.)

My only prediction with the ending I'm confident in, is that lots of us on this thread will be disappointed about it!!! Quite certain of it, said it a few times already 😀

CheekyFucker · 25/01/2020 10:35

@Frazzled2207 after the fire.

nibdedibble · 25/01/2020 10:36

You know one thing that doesn’t fit? The big fat tear that rolled down DT’s cheek when his mammy didn’t come to visit him. Not the sign of an abusive narcissist although everything else appears to be textbook.

LaBelleSauvage123 · 25/01/2020 10:41

When MIL came to visit Tom in prison, she didn’t seem surprised about the insulin - I’m not explaining it very well, but it was as if she had prior knowledge of some time. I’m sure she’s involved - just not quite sure how. DS thinks she seems ‘on the verge of dementia’ - maybe DT is drugging her too?

Squigean · 25/01/2020 10:42

Not sure, she hadn't obeyed him and he couldn't control it. He was sorry for himself.

LaBelleSauvage123 · 25/01/2020 10:43

Bah - autocorrect - that should read ‘prior knowledge of some kind’

LaBelleSauvage123 · 25/01/2020 10:43

I wonder if the cleaning of the nails and smoothing of the hair is significant?

Squigean · 25/01/2020 10:47

Maybe just that he knew he was leaving prison.

For a suspected child killer he seemed to get on ok in the prison didn't he?

CheekyFucker · 25/01/2020 10:59

None of the prison scenes are true to life. I particularly liked the suicide assessment 🤣

CheekyFucker · 25/01/2020 11:18

PP was correct that insulin needs to be kept in the fridge. There is no way a GP would routinely have a supply in his bag.

Where did he park his car? We haven't seen that at all.

And I am pretty sure a GP would inject himself rather than let his deranged wife do it.

LaBelleSauvage123 · 25/01/2020 11:34

Do we actually know whether DT had insulin in his bloodstream after the fire?

LordOfTheWhys · 25/01/2020 12:05

I don't think this is as good as Broadchurch. The pacing is all over the place.

I also don't understand why policeman Steve didn't just give a statement saying 'the wife told me he was drugging her and she was worried he would kill her' but I was off-duty and a bit pissed off that she'd nearly hurt my wife in a car crash so I did nothing at the time'. That would have worked better than bribing Dillon.

Plus, I can't work out if Dillon lied to Steve and said it was Tom (but Steve paid him to tell the police so it counts as coercion). Or if Dillon told Steve it was the mum and Steve paid Dillon to lie. Anyone know?

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