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thetardis · 22/10/2019 08:11

i wanted to give meghan a nice pair of comfy trainers. or now she's a mum she can wear walking boots with her posh frocks :D

areyoubeingserviced · 22/10/2019 08:29

When Meghan decided to marry Harry, I said that she had made a mistake. Her British friends warned her too
I actually agree with another poster who said that Harry has to take the blame for some of this. He obviously didn’t really prepare Meghan for life in the Royal Family and she was definitely shocked by the level of press intrusion.
I think that Harry deliberately played down how difficult it was going to be, because he is deeply in love with her and didn’t want to lose her.
He’s obviously still traumatised by his mother’s death and as a result has alienated himself from some people. Unfortunately, poor Meghan is collateral damage .
The other thing is that after the Queen, they are probably the most well known Royals. Even those who have little interest in The Royal Family are interested in this couple.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 22/10/2019 08:34

Interesting that the headline tonight is that William has expressed concern about Harry. Seems strange

It's William feeling forced into damage limitation, much like when he took pains to ensure the cameras were there when he took his Flybe flight after the private jet fiasco.

M says no one has asked how I am, leading the senior royals open to speculation (and thereby accusation) that they are the "no one" and that H&M have been receiving cold treatment from the rest of the family, that they are crumbling under the pressure and M in particular is being treated as an outsider, and not part of the family. Sounds very Diana situation.

For all the sneering at tabloid accuracy, it does now appear that their reports of a rift are grounded in at least some truth.

Sad when you consider that W,K&H used to go around together all the time. What we see now is W forced into having to take specific actions to deflect and contain the negativity and stop it spilling over onto the rest of them, who frankly, have spent decades sensibly maintaining the balance between personal life and press and have absolutely no desire to return to the drama of the Diana years.

Nishky · 22/10/2019 08:41

What she actually said was not many people have asked if I am ok

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 22/10/2019 08:44

I wonder if the only way that Harry was able to cope with his mother dying was the stiff upper lip mentality of the royals- routine and protacal etc. Meghan and her 'talk about everything at any given moment even if it's at an inappropriate time' is probably a bit much for him emotionally. It'll either be the best thing that's every happened to him or the worst. I think he (and the royal family) needed a Kate type, knew the game,stiff upper lip but supportive too.

FenellaMaxwell · 22/10/2019 08:44

Re William - it suggests to me that he HAS tried to offer support and friendship in private, and that hasn’t been well received so he’s done it in public firstly because perhaps he doesn’t feel welcome to contact them directly or go round and secondly because it makes it impossible for H&M to deny he’s done it....

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 22/10/2019 08:45

What she actually said was not many people have asked if I am ok

Who was she expecting to ask if she's ok?

BertrandRussell · 22/10/2019 08:49

“ It's William feeling forced into damage limitation, much like when he took pains to ensure the cameras were there when he took his Flybe flight after the private jet fiasco.”
You think that Flybe thing was damage limitation?

Well, actually you’re right- because people bought the bullshit!

FenellaMaxwell · 22/10/2019 08:51

I don’t think the Flybe thing was a PR exercise - my husband has been on a budget flight with them too, before the private jet thing, and so has one of my colleagues.

kittlesticks · 22/10/2019 08:59

Given the publicity in the US on W, It's really unfair to report the rift as M's fault. Just my two cents.

Justneedaflippingtemporaryname · 22/10/2019 09:00

I noted the other night when they went to an awards ceremony, she walked way out in front, threw herself forward and greeted the organiser and then introduced her husband the prince. Harry stood there like a bit player. It was gobsmacking

Yeah, god forbid she be equal in the marriage. Why doesn't she know her place?

winge · 22/10/2019 09:05

It's not clear if their beef with the press or with comments on social media. M only had to look at the cuttings of pieces written about Camilla and Fergie to know how bad it can be, and lets face it, nothing written about the couple touches on the brutal treatment by the tabloids of those two women.

I also suspect that M was misled into thinking they could do royal duties their way, ie. the glamorous jetting-setting bits with less of the tedious ribbon cutting in the provinces part. As for 'existing not living' saying this against the backdrop of South African townships is just jaw-dropping. Is spending millions on doing up a new home, taking private jets to stay with Elton, flying off to NY to the weekend to watch your friend play tennis, having a go at editing Vogue, doing some fashion designing etc etc. not 'living'?!

And let's not forget, it's us, the general public, feeding the beast. We award the royals an enormously privileged life that they wouldn't have if we didn't have access to it or interest in it. The price is clearly too great for some members, more than they should be expected to bear, which is a great argument for abolishing the monarchy or at the very least stripping it back to only the direct line of succession.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 22/10/2019 09:09

Protocol is that it’s the royal first then spouse second. Prince Philip has been 3 steps behind the Queen their entire marriage.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 22/10/2019 09:10

And I agree about the comments Camilla & Fergie had to put up with was a lot worse.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 22/10/2019 09:16

As for 'existing not living' saying this against the backdrop of South African townships is just jaw-dropping

Very.

Justneedaflippingtemporaryname · 22/10/2019 10:05

Is spending millions on doing up a new home, taking private jets to stay with Elton, flying off to NY to the weekend to watch your friend play tennis, having a go at editing Vogue, doing some fashion designing etc etc. not 'living'?!

Not really...money isn't everything. Meghan had money and powerful friends before she met Harry (because let's be clear, you're talking about Meghan). I'm not rich, but I'm comfortable and tbh these things you describe would not make me think a life hounded by the press and jealous morons on twitter and Instagram and Mumsnet is worth it.

GlitchStitch · 22/10/2019 10:10

As for 'existing not living' saying this against the backdrop of South African townships is just jaw-dropping

Completely agree, I thought it was so distasteful. Why couldn't they just do a documentary highlighting the issues/ good causes from their tour? They've made it all about them. And then to announce they are taking a 6 week break for family time. Good for them if they feel they need it but do they not realise that this is another thing completely out of reach of most people who don't have that luxury.

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 22/10/2019 10:10

As for 'existing not living' saying this against the backdrop of South African townships is just jaw-dropping

It's truly unbelievable ,I cannot believe they thought that was appropriate. I can't take anything they say seriously again ( I never did anyway but ykwim)

BertrandRussell · 22/10/2019 10:12

“ I also suspect that M was misled into thinking they could do royal duties their way, ie. the glamorous jetting-setting bits with less of the tedious ribbon cutting in the provinces part.”
Now of all the bollocks written about Meghan this is the bollockiest. There is no suggestion that she isn’t doing all the royal duties expected of her.

GlitchStitch · 22/10/2019 10:13

Then maybe they need to stop giving their critics ammunition. Like don't make a tour to highlight poverty, violence and inequality all about how hard life is for THEM. Who told them this would be a good idea?

missyoumuch · 22/10/2019 10:16

Why couldn't they just do a documentary highlighting the issues/ good causes from their tour? They've made it all about them.

I haven't seen the programme but the clips online seem to have quite a few about the charitable work they were doing in South Africa and the connections to Diana. The host even says something like "I took some time to speak to Meghan directly" as if it was not the main part of the itinerary for filming.

GlitchStitch · 22/10/2019 10:19

Who is talking about the charitable work? Nobody. And they know exactly what will be reported when they announce legal action during the tour, and talk about themselves like this. It has over shadowed everything else, including the tail end of W and K's tour too, which is supposed to be a big no-no.

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 22/10/2019 10:25

Can you imagine Kate having a moan,it would never happen! Or the Queen? Harry's new motto should be 'what would granny do' the complete opposite of whatever you are doing /saying, you self absorbed knobber!

WineOrGinOrBoth · 22/10/2019 10:27

You think he would have learnt from his parents mistakes but clearly not. I’m sure Kate complains plenty in private though especially if the rumours about William are true.

BertrandRussell · 22/10/2019 10:31

“ Can you imagine Kate having a moan,it would never happen!”
Who knows what might happen if she was subject to the treatment Meghan gets? And anyway, she did take out an injunction against the press once didn’t she? And there have been rumours that have been suppressed.