anyone watching Harry and Megan

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on tv now?

You've only got to look at his balding head to see who his dad is 🙄

He looks nothing like Hewit apart from his hair colour.

I feel sorry for them but i think they've done completely the wrong thing in going to the media to tell a sad story. Much better to have tried to take some time away, enjoy the baby, be together. Both of them seem, like Diana, to be becoming addicted to the drama.

Dear God. No one has asked you if you're ok Meghan? Get a grip! Jesus. Surrounded by poverty and awful hardship and you're still wanting it to be all about you!

I'm actually quite embarrassed for her. Get some dignity. You're a royal now!

Dear God. No one has asked you if you're ok Meghan? Get a grip! Jesus. Surrounded by poverty and awful hardship and you're still wanting it to be all about you!

Yes this. I think this whole interview was seriously misguided and only fuels the fire. It opens the door to even more gossip, speculation and interest in them.

No one deserves the brutal media intrusion into their lives but I don't believe for a second it was all a surprise for her. She must have known how bad it would be, how shitty a life it actually is being a royal, but shut her eyes to it all. I think she's a perfectly ok person - no strong feelings either way about her - but this interview was madness. The easiest way to keep the press away is surely to be completely silent and totally dull. The queen has managed it for decades by just saying absolutely nothing about anything ever. You can't invite the "good" press in and not expect the bad to follow through the door.

So do we think that if they go to ground for six weeks the media will leave them be?

There is a LOT in that doc about Diana - and Harry

I've just been reading an article that says Harry has cut off his friends, and he's rebuffed his father's offers of help/ advice too. Apparently the royal advisors call them 'the Sussex problem'.

I do think Harry is the issue really. He hasn't taught Meghan protocols, or helped guide and support her appropriately as she found her feet, whether because he isn't capable due to his struggles or because he is being petulant about things. And so without the right guidance on how things work, British culture, she is just being herself (very Hollywood, virtue signalling, lots of gushy language etc). Nothing necessarily wrong with that as an actress but it really doesn't work for a British royal and it gets people's backs up. And now she's been dragged into Harry's personal dramas and grudges. I don't agree with all those who say he's being a great husband trying to protect his wife etc. I think he's been quite selfish from the start tbh.

Far too much , obviously she was going to be mentioned when Harry went to Angola and opened the hospital renamed after her, however the visit was about Africa and its people, not about them. They obviously feel that opening up about mental health is a good thing, which it can be, but this wasn’t the time or place. Too much navel grazing and very, dare I say, American type of behaviour. They married too quickly imho, probably due to her age and wanting children.

I imagine that, perhaps ironically, marrying into the Royal Family has been an immensely humbling experience for Meghan.

Many Americans think that royalty is akin to ultimate luxury and omnipotence. The reality is obviously very different.

Harry is responsible for not preparing his wife to the reality of his life and the tradition she married into.

I don't think there is anything humble about Meghan, sorry. She is all about her own image and her own self interest.

I also think that it's in M's interests to stoke the fires of feeling wronged and misunderstood. I don't think she wants Harry to have a close relationship with his family and I don't think she wants to remain in this country. It's a 'them or us' mentality which has them isolated, struggling and feeling the only option is to move away from the UK. This all suits her agenda. She isn't a bad person, but she is very controlling and has her own ideas about what she thinks is best for both of them. That's my take anyway.

I can understand why William had to say that he is concerned via media because then it would be reported that he doesn’t care so he couldn’t possibly win.

And if anyone has forgotten that during Heads Together campaign, Harry had mentioned that William and Charles thought that Harry might need some therapy. Whether Harry is continuing in doing so is another question.

They need to take a leaf out of the Queen’s book and stop engaging with the media and tbh apart from tabloids, who had been negative about them? They don’t have to say they want privacy. Simply by going about their business with an interview here and there about the causes that they support would have been enough.

They didn’t have to move out of KP, set up their own instagram account etc. They could easily have had the privacy of being newly weds and gradually ease into it. The queen had Balmoral I think or some such place when she got married and William and Kate had Anglesey. They could have easily afforded their own private pad and just focused on their relationship. It all just seemed like a whirlwind.

Also, when Harry was asked about a rift whether it is true or not, he could just say that there wasn’t and at least he and his brother can perhaps take a leaf out Meghan and Kate’s book and at least smile when out in public. All these grim faces just look so odd compared how they were together before.

Harry and Meghan chosen good causes to champion but seemingly have turned the focus on to themselves. There was no need to go all guns blazing when they were doing so well. They could have turned the tides around. It just comes across as attention-seeking when that might not even be the intention. They need better advisors sharpish.

They just need to leave the royal circus, become private citizens and live their own lives, probably abroad somewhere. Meghan can go back to acting again.

They have every right to feel as they do, but I'm surprised they thought expressing it on TV would calm the situation down - the DM particularly will spin ANYTHING, even a cry for help such as this. It's only keeping the gossip mill churning. They were getting fantastic press for their Africa tour and would have been better off just resting on that for a bit.

I understand this is months of frustration pouring out (Meghan was being attacked in the DM for months while on May leave, everything from her conduct at Wimbledon to the provenance of a baby blanket) and anyone would be feeling raw in their shoes, but I just don't think it was a good move.

As much as we would like to think we are more in touch with mental health issues these days, there is context here - the royals' use of taxpayer money alongside the current Brexit crisis - and most people are not in the mood right now to listen to the privileged moaning.

I really feel for them, though.

If Harry has alienated his friends , is this why the list of godparents was not published? Because the godparents are all Meghan’s friends?

There is nothing in the US like the tabloid culture that exists in the UK.

Truly British tabloids are in a league of their own. And Meghan was not very famous in the US, "Suits" was not a top show and she wasn't even the lead. She has experienced nothing like what she has since getting with Harry.

I've always thought she was mad to marry him and enter this world and my opinion has been confirmed over and over. She doesn't seem happy and Britain seems to absolutely hate her. What a mistake.

“ They were getting fantastic press for their Africa tour”

They weren’t you know. There was loads of stuff about “how dare they kick the taxpayers in the face by showing Archie in Africa first”

If Harry has alienated his friends , is this why the list of godparents was not published? Because the godparents are all Meghan’s friends?

I hadn't thought of that. That makes sense I suppose.

Harry seemed tense and anxious. The interviewer seemed tense too.

Watch just Harry when he is with Meghan and she is talking

He seemed to relax when he went off on his own for part of the trip.

Has she got PND? I feel for them both. Something is not right.

Has Harry been swept away by the charming and alluring Meghan? Who in turn was swept away by the romantic dream of becoming a Royal in the UK?
Have both of them realised that reality is rather different?

Anyone who think there is any doubt about Harry’s parentage is bonkers imo. He is the spitting image of Charles and Philip. Same eyes/nose combination.

They have every right to feel as they do, but I'm surprised they thought expressing it on TV would calm the situation down - the DM particularly will spin ANYTHING, even a cry for help such as this. It's only keeping the gossip mill churning it's exactly what Diana did.

• Has Harry been swept away by the charming and alluring Meghan? Who in turn was swept away by the romantic dream of becoming a Royal in the UK? Have both of them realised that reality is rather different?*

Would assume so... Would maybe assume these scenes are going to be used in their documentary about why they’re moving to the USA, that’ll be about a year down the line.

It’s difficult as none of us know what that media glare is like, however...

A tour may last x days. But there are actually few moments to really convey what is important, to get your message across. To make any statements like this about your own problems (as true as they may be) is really distasteful. We all have differing opinions, but mine is that there’s something gross and wrong about two such privileged people - born to middle and very upper class homes and privately educated, having lived and living glamorous (and fairly private) lives - saying they have a problem with their positions on a tour to highlight poverty and violence against women.

Neither of them has ever lived like “normal” 9-5 (as if any of us get to do 9-5!) people. So actually much as we don’t know the media glare, they don’t know the at times hum drum and at times actual fear of living like us, the anxieties and the just being knackered. Then times that by a thousand for some of the people they’d met in SA... it’s not a contest, this isn’t Yorkshire Monty python, but the contrast in their lives to some the people they were seeing in SA.. it’s sick, but here they are complaining.

And if royals complain about their lives, what are we supposed to do about it?

If you have problems with your position, don’t squeeze this in to a random documentary. It’s passive aggressive - it’s like having a shite intern... have you spoken to your friends about this, to your boss about this, what can your boss do to help, are you looking at different alternatives to approaching work.

It’s like they hate their jobs... but why moan to us about it?! We have a lot more on thanks, and don’t control the media. If anyone mentions the bloody tabloids... well a lot of us don’t read those, we’re barely interested in the royals but what we hear, amongst 90k dresses, hugely expensive weddings, private jets... and William and Kate definitely doing all of the same... is complaints.

The two of them - and young royals in general - seem to highlight themselves so much more than those around them. A reporter had made a weird comment on the tour, something to Harry about what are you wanting to achieve/ change here. His response was nothingness but at time thought not much of it - now wonder how committed any of them are to their “causes”. Would be interesting to see any of them do a pop quiz on the organisations etc they claim to support.

I actually thought the tour seemed really good until this documentary.

I’ve got total royal fatigue - their complaints, obvious PR battles going on... just leave the public alone! The value for money factor is crap at the moment.

I noted the other night when they went to an awards ceremony, she walked way out in front, threw herself forward and greeted the organiser and then introduced her husband the prince. Harry stood there like a bit player. It was gobsmacking

On a clip I saw either from the documentary or the tour he was holding Archie and she went to kiss the baby and Harry appeared to tell her to hurry up - I thought she looked a bit downcast and cowed.

I think it is impossible to understand people’s relationships from brief clips. Also we are all being played by the media. Years ago there was a tabloid photo of the Beckhams aimed at showing the disintegration of the marriage as they looked so miserable at a public event. In a magazine was a photo clearly taken from the same event which showed them laughing their heads off

Sorry first bit of my post is a quote from pp - forgot to put it in bold