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anyone watching Harry and Megan

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Member869894 · 20/10/2019 21:06

on tv now?

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Sweetnessandfight · 21/10/2019 22:11

There are many sources of stress and strain for them all converging at once (in no particular order): new baby (who knows how much sleep they are getting - easy to assume they have night nanny but perhaps not), newish relationship (let alone marriage), baggage on both sides from family histories (common for stuff to resurface with big life events/changes), unresolved grief perhaps for Harry (more common with traumatic deaths or deaths under unusual circumstances)... Then add to all that, sudden, intense public scrutiny that she in particular may have been finding overwhelming... He is terrified that she will say she's had enough... Didn't William talk candidly ages ago about how important it was to find a wife who could hack it all and how he took a long time in finding out or trusting that Kate could indeed do that? Harry is maybe facing that question now (which must be a difficult one to handle) BUT having already married and had a child. Then linking in and muddled in with all of it is his grief etc around his mother and her unhappiness and death all bound up with press intrusion, and gosh, my own head hurts just thinking about it.

He and William believe in combating stigma around mental health - maybe Harry (wisely or unwisely, who knows?) has decided that he will practise what he preaches and be more open. He seems desperate - maybe he thinks that if he appeals to the public and press in this way it will all go away. I can easily see how he and Meghan forging their own path, not in the model of William and Kate, would cause tensions.

Interesting that the headline tonight is that William has expressed concern about Harry. Seems strange... PR to show that he still cares about him and aim to play down the idea of a rift? Makes them look almost estranged, William communicating that he cares to him via the media.

All does seem a bit tense. I feel sad for them. Human suffering of any kind - anxiety, anger, sadness - feels difficult regardless of how much money / status etc one has, although of course their access to sources of support etc are likely to be greater.

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 22:13

Here is an image of Lord Frederick Windsor looking like William.
And I'm not suggesting anything about Harry's parentage, but he doesn't look anything LIKE Prince Philip.
Different people will see different things in others - and sometimes people can look like both sides of the family at once.

anyone watching Harry and Megan
Blingandrings · 21/10/2019 22:15

Just watched a piece on the news stating William has expressed great concern through KP. Why on earth doesn't he go round and actually speak to them and find out how they're feeling? It's all so odd.

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 22:17

That's exactly what I just said to dh. Pick up the bloody phone - to his brother, not the BBC!

justasking111 · 21/10/2019 22:18

I thought that too. A bit of a cold fish perhaps.

Blingandrings · 21/10/2019 22:19

It would suggest they are actually estranged.

lakequeen · 21/10/2019 22:20

@EleanorReally

Me neither! Very strange.

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 22:23

Not sure who it was who said, years ago, that to shine a light too brightly onto the Monarchy, it loses its mystique. (Possibly the Queen?)
Anyway, Harry & Meghan clearly didn't get that memo (along with some of the others) and a great deal of damage is being done.

MissEliza · 21/10/2019 22:24

I agree with @derxa. People need to stop the comments about Harry's parentage.

SenecaFalls · 21/10/2019 22:26

Especially the bit about no tabloids in the USA and from an actress as well - ie. someone used to courting publicity for her career.

There is nothing in the US like the tabloid culture that exists in the UK.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 21/10/2019 22:27

If the brothers are estranged it must have happened after the wedding as it all looked fine (to me) but I’m not a body language expert. Time for the queen to intervene I think.

AgeLikeWine · 21/10/2019 22:28

If Harry & Meghan are finding life in the media spotlight uncomfortable, there is a simple solution to that. If they object to having their behaviour, such as flying on private jets while lecturing the peasants on environmentalism, questioned by the media there is a also a simple solution to that.

They can renounce their titles, stop taking money from the taxpayer, live quietly as private citizens and work to financially support themselves like the rest of us do.

Problem solved.

Chipstick10 · 21/10/2019 22:31

They are not good for each other I don’t think. They feed off each other’s insecurities and feelings of persecution. Meghan seems quite narcissistic and Harry is like a co dependent.
The Queen must be doing her pieces. Harry has gone rogue.
Ever since they have been together (went public) he has seemed so angry almost. I noted the other night when they went to an awards ceremony, she walked way out in front, threw herself forward and greeted the organiser and then introduced her husband the prince. Harry stood there like a bit player. It was gobsmacking

Encyclo · 21/10/2019 22:31

I'm amazed to see William reaching out via the press. Couldn't he just text him?

I'm especially surprised he's doing it knowing how hungrily the press and the public are pouncing on any new info.

If he's this model of restraint and mystique then why is he feeding the beast too?

Blingandrings · 21/10/2019 22:32

@Chipstick - yes I notice that a lot. She seems completely dominant, and he seems to shrink back more and more and look increasingly haunted. When he's on his own, like when they split up for a while, he comes to life again.

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 22:33

Not quite so easy to "work financially like the rest of us do" though, is it? Kate found that difficult, in that there was intense scrutiny wherever she went. And even Sophie Wessex struggled, despite running her own company.
Zara Phillips/Tindall seems to be doing OK, but she has the good fortune to be talented in show-jumping to Olympic level (OK, with a fair bit of hard work as well).

Supersimkin2 · 21/10/2019 22:35

I feel bloody sorry for both of them.

Harry looks shattered. Meghan looks pretty disenchanted with the whole show. You can bet he's petrified she'll bolt with the baby back to the US, and I suspect she's the sort of person to voice that.

Meghan was a self-made millionaire with a lovely life in the States. She's probably wondering whether on earth a couple of extra Givenchys was worth the hassle of emigrating, giving up her career, and joining a notoriously chilly foreign family, and that's before the public duties started. It isn't.

Harry has hinted at doing a runner from the Royals before. Usually what happens in these circs is that once a couple of hints have been dropped, the courtiers boot you out whether you like it or not.

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 21/10/2019 22:39

William takes after the Spencers

Harry looks just like his Aunts as well as looking like his grandfather on his father's side.

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 21/10/2019 22:44

The cruel speculation about Harry's dad is disgusting

It's a load of nonsense.

derxa · 21/10/2019 22:44

Just watched a piece on the news stating William has expressed great concern through KP. Why on earth doesn't he go round and actually speak to them and find out how they're feeling? It's all so odd. Yes it is

linentowel · 21/10/2019 22:44

I think Meghan did know what she was getting into. I just don’t think anyone expected the level of nastiness in the press and on places like Mumsnet to be so, so bad.

Bottom line is no matter what either of them say or do going forward, they will be hung out to dry.

Dooleydally · 21/10/2019 22:44

Many newlyweds gravitate towards living more of one party’s life than the other’s. I think if Harry hadn’t been a royal, this couple (H&M) would have most probably lived Meghan’s world and possibly Harry would have made the move to the USA.

Meghan is far too independent minded to toe the party line and I don’t blame her for finding it impossible to conform.

MintChocAddict · 21/10/2019 22:47

callmeangelina A young Duke of Edinburgh alongside Harry.

Undeniable likeness and there are many more if you google it.

Disappointing for the James Hewitt speculators but there you go!

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WineOrGinOrBoth · 21/10/2019 22:54

They really are like two peas in a pod Mint

linentowel · 21/10/2019 22:54

The Duke was very good looking!

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