anyone watching Harry and Megan

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on tv now?

Neither of them have any family support at all it would seem

It does come across that way derxa. Which is strange.

If he had denied the rift nobody would have believed him. So saying that they don’t see as much of each other as they did, things happen between brothers but they love each other seemed to me entirely sensible. No details but nothing that looked like a diplomatic papering over the cracks answer. I was amused by him looking more comfortable when he was digging holes and zooming up and down rivers in patrol boats. I would have paid good money to see Meghan plant a tree.....

This is more and more like a Sue Townsend novel every day!

I think Meghan came across much more down to earth then I was expecting. Harry’s bald patch is getting a lot worse but it’s in a place He obviously can’t see it, I only saw snippets though as I’m at work . All my patients were watching it.

I wonder if Harry will walk away from the Royal family after the Queen dies.

I think the ‘rift’ between the brothers is royal tradition:

Dutiful George V1 v glamorous Edward V111/Duke of Windsor & social circle

Dutiful Queen Elizabeth v glamorous Princess Margaret & social circle

Dutiful Prince Charles v glamorous Prince Andrew & social circle

The popular rival court cultivated by the non-inheriting sibling is what they do.

Just one photo opportunity after another.

The usual "empowering women" line.

Sorry but how are you actually doing that? Apart from saying those words?

It reminds me of the John Lennon and Yoko Ono scene in an Amsterdam hotel bed, where he blithely told the worlds press "we're saving lives here".

Really, do tell?

I thought Harry came across as being a fragile person. By all accounts he was understandably angry when the press did the unforgivable and gave away his post in the army making it impossible for him to continue his career. It’s unsurprising that he lost his way after being forced to give up a direction in life that he loved.

Since meeting Meghan, he appears to have found another path that he is passionate about which says a lot about their relationship. Hopefully the media will lay off them after this documentary and let their relationship strengthen without being under constant pressure.

I don't think the media will leave them alone. They seem happy to push and push. It is clearly affecting both of them. It's not pleasant to watch either, to say the least.

It's a really sad situation.

@AhNowTed that's how I feel.

@Wingedharpy I agree. Even my dh, who has no interest in the RF, and was just waiting for the rest of Who Wants to be a Millionaire said 'they're clearly not getting any advice about handling the media'. I think Harry is in a fragile state. It's like he's stuck in the anger stage of grieving for his mum.

I caught bits of it on the news this morning as I am not bothered enough to want to watch a whole interview. My only thought is to wonder why on earth they are being advised that it's a good idea to spill their hearts out on TV? Have their PR teams learnt nothing from the embarrassing and damaging interviews Harry's parents did? We don't need to know all this stuff and it is just stoking the media. Its Jeremy Kyle for the Royals.

Oh do shut up Megan. I can’t be doing with these two whinging hypocrites. She’s controlling and fake and he is unhappy. I give the marriage another three years.
She wants back to America and this is the precursor. Ta ta

Exactly, sluj.
On a side note, anyone else think Archie looks like Thomas Markle?

Oh, she is fab. Such a great couple.

What a crying shame, given the content of the documentary, that the 'brothers feud' has been latched onto and made headline news. He said it like it is: lives get busy, you don't see as much of each other as you used to but will always be family. Something so relatable. Twisted again for headlines.

Oh come on, sagrada! Their lives have always been busy. In fact, you could argue they had more to do when he was in the army and William was flying air ambulances.
Yet they were seen a lot together and it came across as being an overwhelmingly warm and humorous and close relationship, with Kate a large part of it.
And then, as has happened the world over, the single sibling got a partner who didn't quite gel for whatever reason (and I don't buy that it was racism here, actually).
And Harry was resentful and backed off and now there's a massive rift, which is unlikely to be healed whilst he remains married to Meghan.
The weird thing is that William was slated for allegedly advising caution to Harry about marrying Meghan but she merrily informed us all that her friends did the same to her.

I think he spent their pre-marriage relationship telling her he wanted his life to change, to have more control over his direction, of his desire to work in an philanthropic role. She supported him and said it could be achieved (naively underestimating the role of The Palace in Harry’s life). He believed her and believed they could achieve this together (naively underestimating the role of The Palace in his life...)

It’s not gone to plan as Protocol continues to dictate. It’s a case of your with us or without us as far as The Palace is concerned... something William maybe agrees with.

The royal family can be a tremendous force for good works BUT those who've been in the game for a long time understand that there are ways and means of handling it. I think Harry is keen to modernise things and do them his way, aided and abetted by Meghan who, with the best will in the world, has no idea how it works and how 5 minute wonders and Hollywood sound bites and emoting all over the place is not how the institution has survived all these centuries.
They had huge potential, and Harry was massively popular. That's taken a dent but they could get it back on track if they follow the right advice. Slow it down, stop fighting the press (which is a battle they will never win), stop courting sympathy for their hard lot in life, throw a couple of pics of Archie our way every now and again like Kate does, and ffs make friends with William and be seen in public to be getting on well. Oh and beaver away at their worthy charities. Without the fanfare.

chipstick10 it never ceases to amaze me how people who have no more to go on than the media, profess to be such experts on the characters and relationships of people they have never met not are ever likely to. You have zero idea what goes on in either their heads, marriage or actual lives beyond what you read or see in the press. You just sound ridiculous

Callme that's all speculation as I know neither of them.

Charles will look after his sons but things will change in the next 20 years.

Prince Charles is 70 , in 20 years time he'll be 90 , but maybe not even alive. And the queen obviously long gone.
Assuming William is king , and time , I'd think everything would be different when it comes to the British royal family.

Well, she definitely wears the trousers doesn't she?

I find her completely insincere and she needs to get a bloody grip. Hard is getting up at 5am to go to a cleaning job before your husband leaves for work so you can get the kids ready for school - before you then go to job no 2. She needs to give her head a bloody wobble.

Harry I worry has full on mental illness. He was clearly badly affected by the death of his mother and at times, the 12 yr old in him comes out. I actually just want to give him a hug!

I suspect the reason he and William aren't getting on as well is because William has the full measure of this Megan, and Megan knows it. He should have stuck with the lovely Chelsey.

I also give it 3 years tops!

I watched snippets.

I neither particularly like nor dislike Meghan.

I think she’s an average actress playing the biggest role she’ll ever have.

The whole “I said to H... (looks up from under eyelashes and laughs coyly)... oh that’s what I call him”... was so unnatural, the whole thing seemed, to me, scripted form start to finish. I can imagine her rehearsing it.

I also think Harry’s mental health seems to have take a massive nosedive since he started the relationship with her.

“ Well, she definitely wears the trousers doesn't she? ”

People often say this about relationships which look equal. If a group has more than one third women It’s perceived as being majority women.