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Member869894 · 20/10/2019 21:06

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GlitchStitch · 24/10/2019 17:51

I've absolutely no idea of the legalities, but wasn't there some suggestion that contents of the letter have been divulged in America by Meghan's friends?

This is a good point. She may well win the case but at what cost. It is very likely that the MoS will defend themselves vigorously and claim that Meghan used her friends as a proxy to speak to the media. I think this case will open a can of worms that won't be favourable even if there is a technical victory.

GlitteryNow · 24/10/2019 17:55

'Fair enough. I don’t do psychic. What would you have liked her to say?'
I thought you did do psychic when you professed to know what the godparents thought?

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/10/2019 18:00

Sadly it's a soap opera that going to run and run

I don't think it's going to run for that long...

Peaseblossom22 · 24/10/2019 18:02

To be fair it was widely reported that the Godparents didn’t wish to be identified.

PickUpThePieces · 24/10/2019 18:24

Have finally got round to watching the documentary.
I agree the timing of complaining about their circumstances is really off.

I had a challenging time, particularly in my teens ( obvs not beamed across the world and in the gold fish bowl of the worlds media which makes a massive difference) but I am acutely aware that my life has completely changed now.
I could afford private counselling and I have turned my life around.
I am very fortunate to be in that situation and when I encounter people with a similar background to mine, I count my lucky stars and wouldn’t dream of complaining in front of them.
There appears to be a real lack of self awareness.

I see that Kirsty Young is to be director of the Sussex’s charity. A trusted friend apparently.
I would have thought she was as media savvy as they come but perhaps her connection to Soho House ( her husband Nick Jones owns them) means that they are truly immersed in celebrity culture now.
I don’t know who they are taking advice from, if anyone.

On a human level, I feel for them. It should be such a happy time for them, enjoying their baby and each other,
I hope it works out for them and they can find happiness.
I don’t think it will be in the UK, sadly.

Dooleydally · 24/10/2019 18:27

There’s an article just released about how strange the RF are and how they don’t support each other.

Obviously this has echoes of the sentiment Diana expressed so explosively.

However, let’s not conflate not feeling supported with actively pissing people off. H&M appear to be annoying senior royals by behaving in an immature way.

AIBU to be annoyed with my GDS and GDIL that, instead of coming to me first to discuss our private family problems, they’ve done a cryptic FB “Im hurt and sad” post?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/10/2019 18:44

She has been treated appallingly by the media. In any other life she should be able to say so. The problem is it's so unwise in her particular circumstances

Very well put, though I'd add that in this case, the glaring error wasn't so much about her own circumstances as those she was among - and let's also not forget Harry, who did plenty of whining of his own. If they really can't work out what is and isn't appropriate against such a background, maybe they should listen to those who can

In the meantime, I'm only waiting to be told that the deeply unseemly comments were "a slip of the tongue" ... Hmm

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/10/2019 19:16

To be fair it was widely reported that the Godparents didn’t wish to be identified.

How did I miss that? I thought people were surmising that perhaps the godparents didn't want to be identified. I didn't realise they had actually said so.

GlitteryNow · 24/10/2019 19:52

'How did I miss that? I thought people were surmising that perhaps the godparents didn't want to be identified. I didn't realise they had actually said so.'
Yes I missed that too. There seems to be some hypocrisy going on which is ironic. Some things can be made up and some things can't depending on if it's for or against the Sussexes.

BertrandRussell · 24/10/2019 20:07

Sorry- I thought it had been reported that the godparents didn’t want to be identified. Happy to retract if that’s not true. If it’s not, then I agree that it is a bit odd not to announce it.
So. Odd Labour/birth announcement. Secret godparents. Bad timing of private jets. Still not exactly the crimes of the century!

mrscampbellblackagain · 24/10/2019 20:13

I don't think any reason was given by the Sussexes. They just didn't release the information.

mrscampbellblackagain · 24/10/2019 20:17

Who knows though? Must say I don't know why there is such interest in the godparents - I mean who could name the god parents of Harry for example?

In a weird way not announcing makes a bigger deal of it than if they just said who it was. Maybe it is Piers, Boris and Donald Wink

derxa · 24/10/2019 20:18

Still not exactly the crimes of the century! They're not crimes at all.
All I care about is whether Meghan loves Harry and wants to stay with him. All else is irrelevant.

GlitteryNow · 24/10/2019 20:18

'Still not exactly the crimes of the century!'
No, no one has said they are crimes of the century. Just choices that have made them unpopular.

Blingandrings · 24/10/2019 20:21

i don't know why they need to announce in advance that they're not going to do things. Just don't do them... they draw attention to themselves in order to announce they don't want attention.
Whoever it was who described Harry being led around on a lead, that's what it seems like. Right from the engagement interview when she completely dominated .

WineOrGinOrBoth · 24/10/2019 20:22

Meghan loves Harry IMO. Whether they whether the storm is another matter. They married quickly knowing each other such a short time. As many of us know it’s not always about love.

ConstancetheGardener · 24/10/2019 20:40

Harry always seemed so happy when it was him and William and Kate . they all seemed like good mates . The atmosphere seemed to change when Megan joined the Firm . I think most people were really happy that he had found someone to be happy with although may have had reservations because she was American , no NOT because she is a POC I think the subsequent months have shown up the cultural differences in how the Americans do things - wear your heart on your sleeve , emote in public ,go on and on about how you are feeling whereas the British prefer(especially in their RF) a more reserved approach . William and Kate would probably prefer to live without any media scrutiny but it is part of the job so if you want to be part of the RF find a way to make it work , turn up , be gracious , smile , cut ribbons , release a few photos to press to cover birthdays , return home ,live quiet life . And I am sure that the RF have offered support but perhaps it didn't chime with what they were expecting . The Queen and Prince Philip are of a more stoical generation , no gushing or fuss just get on and do your duty .
And of course there is always the alternative to all the current fuss - retire from Royal life and live quietly out of the spotlight , living on your wealth , yes the press would bother you for a bit but they would soon lose interest .

CoolCarrie · 24/10/2019 20:56

It must be royal family week cos Charlie is on itv tonight talking about his own private cash machine , the duchy of Cornwall !

CoolCarrie · 24/10/2019 21:11

You are right winge and spooky !

Notmyrealname855 · 24/10/2019 21:18

Chatting to colleague about this while we work a late night :) she has a LOT to say about them because she was a mega fan and now not at all - I was a normal-level fan and now not much at all. Just to note that she is very young so if this seems savage...! She’s a feisty 25 year old so don’t think she’ll give a hoot what a load of “old” people have to say :) Have typed the below quickly...

What’s she’s said is way more concise than I could say - “H&M say SO much and explain so little”.

Her examples are (I can’t back all of these as didn’t know about some!) - I’ve typed this as she’s chatting so sorry for typos-

  • she says lots of little inaccuracies that make things feel off
  • both of them act so cute but are so old (!!), she thinks a lot of it is put on and “weird” (I’m pretty much older than them!)
  • says she wouldn’t want to meet them because they hold hands at work and she thinks that’s weird And not professional or Respectful to others
  • H&M seemed to get together while they were with other people, dates were off (?). Says Harry was with some girl in NY she thought.doesnt like their love story, says doesn’t belibe it anymore
  • interview and Meghan mentioned she barely knew of the royals (?) - I didn’t see it in full, she said it was cheesy but fine other than that line but made her not trust them so much but put it to one side
  • what happened to her dogs - apparently rumours one was run over? She doesn’t buy that both couldn’t come to UK (thought both did) considering they’ll fly the baby
  • engagement dress was so expensive. Bit OTT for first intro, if you’re trying to revolutionise monarchy looks like you’re blinded by the luxury and same as rest
  • thinks not much of the SoHo connection (ie... badly)
  • hasn’t seen anything but a load of IG posts (she’s on IG), says they started interesting but are all cheesy and don’t say much
  • says they spend money like the rest of them and holiday like the rest of them, how are they any different (I do agree with this)
  • thinks they’re too old for the “youth ambassadors” role and it’s cringe - colleague has said this many many times before!
  • says not sure why they think young ppl don’t want to see traditions, not a bad thing (see handholding angst above)
  • doesn’t care about renovations but says why not live in KP as cheaper. Says could’ve used it as way to show up the others and decorate like normal ppl.
  • doesn’t like the jets (me neither - I think dumb to jet and then literally give lectures on the environment, and yes have had friends see other royals on budget airlines short haul since years ago)
  • she never liked Harry much, because of the nazi thing and says everyone forgets about it and racist stuff he’d said because of Meghan (I do agree)
  • they spend a tonne on PR so it’s a lot of content about them when we’re really not that interested (I do agree). Says worse than those flyer people on the street, she’s bored of it.

FYI this girl is president of our youth Bame committee but you can call it racist if you want :)

Me - I also think they’re just the same as the rest, which is disappointing as was so excited (tbh) for someone who seemed a bit lefty and had worked before. But they’re just the same :( oh and they went to the Disney thing rather than the memorial service - i DO know someone involved in that and they were really hurt by it. Sucks. And to modernise the monarchy would be to abolish it... fingers crossed!

Grinchly · 24/10/2019 21:18

I've always thought that Megan's gushing and emoting come over as false, and that however admirable, her on camera confidence to the point of dominance of many interviews from the engagement onwards would possibly cause issues.

I've rewatched the last section of the docco, and for what it's worth she to me comes across as more sincere in that than in any other piece I've seen so far.

That does not take away from the quite frankly, crass timing of those interviews and the legal announcement. Self sabotage at the end of a highly successful tour - quite striking really.

Interesting she said ' I have my baby...and my husband' , though perhaps understandable.

armchair psychologist klaxon
Harry seems to have got himself caught in a Gordian knot of unresolved grief, triggered by all the life changes they have experienced and exacerbated it would seem by the rupture in the relationship with William.

She says she is feeling vulnerable - maybe when they met the attraction was that she was the strong and capable one , and he was the gentle sensitive wounded one.

And when he saw her start to not cope, under the onslaught from some sections of the media
yet was unable to defend her from the enemy, as he saw it, he went under, and she I turn feels resentful and guilty and unsupported, as well as unfairly victimised.

I do agree with PP that he must be terrified she will bolt.

It's all very sad, history repeating itself. Their marriage is a mirror of his parents' with the roles reversed. They need professional support emotionally and a wider informal network of long standing dependable people they can trust. And to listen to PR advisers who understand the RF and the tabloid press here.

Doing it on-camera was a massive own goal.

Notmyrealname855 · 24/10/2019 21:21

Oh she says anyone who only has one family member at their wedding... (and manages to raise one eyebrow very well)

I’m noting that it does happen sometimes - but yeah, coupled with the cutting off friends and the staff turnover... eh

ALSO forgot how annoying it is with “friends” who talk to the media. Too much - I don’t read the Daily Fail but it’s invading my normal papers and you do feel like...get out of my news... it is OTT

Notmyrealname855 · 24/10/2019 21:23

Oh and... she and I both agree there’s loads of racism, but also valid grounds for criticism. She has just shouted across the room “they’re too old for this shit!”

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/10/2019 21:26

I'm speculating now about something I give absolutely no fucks about, but maybe in the light of the coverage Meghan found herself receiving, she thought she was protecting her friends by not identifying them.

Maybe if someone had explained that the British public couldn't name one of George's godparents if a lottery win depended on it, she might have acted differently.

Who knows?

It was pretty bonkers though.

MissEliza · 24/10/2019 21:47

Honestly why the fuss about the godparents? Who cares? As George is the future king, it was mildly interesting to know as those godparents are supposed to be like mentors but who cares about the rest?
Also why would the godparents want to remain anonymous? Is there some history of royal godparents being harassed that I'm unaware of?! Could it just be a control thing?