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The Nights Watch..GOT Season 8 15 April UK 2AM / US 9pm Spoilers after 2AM

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TheLazyDuchess · 15/04/2019 01:51

10 minutes to go!

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EraOfTheGrey · 16/04/2019 00:58

I think I read somewhere that legend has it that a dragon heated the well under Winterfell. Perhaps there is still a dragon buried there?

lotusbell · 16/04/2019 06:39

The dragon ride was really naff, as was the smooching after it. I know the CGI effects are usually really good but this looked so fake.

GoldenKelpie · 16/04/2019 07:03

I just don't get Sam's sorrow for his family at all, anyway

Because family is family, no matter now shite they are to you. Sam spent his life trying to achieve his fathers' acceptance and love, and failing. Now he can never do it. He is a remarkable character in the series, and I am looking forward to seeing where he ends up, not dead I suspect (hope).

ppppppickupapenguin · 16/04/2019 07:08

I’m hoping we find out why the white walker ignored sam (I think it was season 2), when a few of the nights watch were beyond the wall and they hear 3 blasts and realise the walkers are near so they run for it but Sam can’t keep up so hides behind a rock, the white walker looks at him and then carries on.

KittyWindbag · 16/04/2019 07:32

Of course Sam is upset about his family. Their death means no chance of reconciliation. No bond forged. They will never be proud of him. He can never forgive them their treatment of him now. So much lost. I totally get it.

Bethan369 · 16/04/2019 07:55

lotusbell I thought the same, it was like something out of Harry Potter when they ride the broom sticks. I wonder if it was the white background that made it look so bad.

CalmDownPacino · 16/04/2019 07:56

The dragon ride was really naff, as was the smooching after it. I know the CGI effects are usually really good but this looked so fake

Agreed. I was cringing, and as for the bit with the dragons looking at Jon whilst they kissed, oh dear I thought that was awful!

Really disliked Dany and thought she was arrogant and smug, unlike Sansa who I now love!

The Cersei and Euron scene made me laugh. "If you want a whore buy one, if you want a queen earn her". Banging speech Cersei, oh no wait she's going to do him anyway! Definitely agree that the wine drinking means nothing. Fairly sure it would be been normal to continue drinking through pregnancy so don't think that means she's miscarried.

Poor Sam. and Jaime, that face! The mirroring of S1E1 was excellent imo.

Going to watch it again tonight.

Notrusthere · 16/04/2019 08:07

I think there's more to the look that Drogon gives John than "stop groping my mum"

John now knows he's the true heir.
He's finding out things about Dany that he doesn't like - she killed Sam's family, she's making veiled threats to his "sister" Sansa. There's going to be more.

My money is on John killing Dany or trying to kill her and being killed by Drogon.

Also think it will be interesting to see who Arya sides with when it comes out that John is not her brother, because Sansa isn't going to like that shit. She will want to be queen in the North and John bending the knee means nothing anymore.

I think Arya will be torn but will side with Sansa....the lone wolf dies but the pack survives.

HandsOffMyRights · 16/04/2019 09:00

My money is on John killing Dany or trying to kill her and being killed by Drogon.

I enjoyed Varys' line (while the three advisers looked at Jon and Dany): "nothing lasts"

This will be the breakup of all breakups.

pansydansy · 16/04/2019 09:16

Place marking. Keep getting kicked out 🤦🏻‍♀️

nipersvest · 16/04/2019 09:16

I kind of hope if the Night King gets to Winterfell, there will be a nod to Lady Stoneheart and Catelyn will be ressurected. Both Rob and Ned were beheaded, if they became Wights that could be problematic, but Catelyn had her throat cut, there's a scene in the season trailer with Arya running scared in the crypts.

Have also found myself not liking Dany so much anymore. I think Jon Snow will survive, the trailer with him, Sansa and Arya looking at their own statues, Jon's looked old, like he'd lived to a much older age, Sansa's and Arya's looked younger.

Lweji · 16/04/2019 09:35

Bear with me on this one.

I think Cersei's baby will have blue eyes eventually, if not before birth. Which would tie in with the White King going down south...

VenusStarr · 16/04/2019 09:55

Dh thinks that the dragon is connecting with Jon, so has some sort of affinity to him.

I'm relatively new to GOT and struggle with all the characters, but enjoying reading everyone's musings and theories.

Snappedandfarted2019 · 16/04/2019 10:15

Catelynns body was thrown in the river she wasn’t buried in the crypts.

CalmDownPacino · 16/04/2019 10:23

Dragons definitely knew Jon was a Targaryen before he did, otherwise he'd have been eaten! Why hasn't Dany the Dictator made the connection yet!

Mapril · 16/04/2019 10:27

Enjoyed the first episode though I thought the whole dragon riding scene was self indulgent toss. Loved the reuniting scenes, especially Jon and Arya, Tormund (❤️) and Edd, and Tyrion being slightly in awe of grown up Sansa. I just hope that we get to see a glimpse of a Sansa/ Hound reconnection. I know everyone wanted the Arya and Hound reunion, but actually before they even met, the Hound had shown his softer side with Sansa ‘little bird’ though she always seemed afraid of him. I’d like to see a scene with them together again.

Agree that the look on Jamie’s face when he saw Bran was incredible acting! And Cersei just gets better and better.

We had a little cheer for Theon redeeming himself with Yara as well.

Lweji · 16/04/2019 10:37

Ups, here's my theory that links with a blue eyed Cersey's baby, posted on the other thread:

There's an imbalance here. There's the White King and there's Cersei.
Surely they won't do the battle with the White King first.
They'll either have to half loose a battle and go south for help, but it feels odd because there's something in Winterfell, or the White King will go straight south and it will be Cersei having to flee. I'd bet on the second.

Notmyrealname855 · 16/04/2019 11:02

Totally sneaking in to placemark :)

Honestly I’d give the episode 3/10 - so much rushed in to line things up, they cheapened a lot of big scenes. And yet gave 10 minutes to a romcom dragon ride Envy (not envy)

Random q but why would the King’s sign be a sun? Seems an odd choice for someone living in the ice cold and dark...

Any chance that the whole of the north is a trap? That Cersei has schemed way in advance? Otherwise quite boring if the whole gee schucks gang is in the north being honourable... how dull. Even if they do then fight for the throne, it’s all a bit predictable

TakenForSlanted · 16/04/2019 11:09

John now knows he's the true heir.

Why do people always assume this? Heir to the Targaryan Blood Line, yes. But there appears to be a widespread notion that Targaryan rule is somehow inherently legitimate. GRRM in the books and, to a somewhat lesser but still very evident extent, the show make it abundantly clear that the Targaryan kings have essentially conquered and ruled the land due to their seriously OP weaponry, a.k.a. dragons, and would have been comparable to any of the other feudal lords in Westeros if measured by any other standards. Some of them, most notably the Mad King Aerys, have demonstrably got none of the qualities of a good or even half-decent ruler.

We also see house Baratheon supersede the Targaryans after they lose their dragons and house Lannister ascending via essentially the elimination of all remaining Baratheons.

Now, if the legitimacy of rule in Westeros is based on the principle of "might is right", surely it would be Dany and her dragons or whoever happens to manage to off her whose claim would be most legitimate?

If, on the other hand, the story's resolution includes some form of assent based or otherwise evolved rulership: why does Jon's position in the Targ family tree matter?

I've never quite understood this one.

Lweji · 16/04/2019 11:20

Maybe they'll invent democracy.

JasperRising · 16/04/2019 11:24

TakenForSlanted I think the assumption is probably rooted in the Wars of the Roses inspiration for the series. There both the house of Lancaster and York had a claim to the throne and it does get a bit murky depending on how you think you should work through lines of the family when women come into play (it wasn't clearly defined in England at the time). Anyway, even once the Yorkists - who had a claim to the throne as the Bathrooms do in GoT - are in charge and doing ok (having both right and military success behind their claim), there are still people who are willing to back the Lancastrians right down to Henry Tudor whose claim is very weak in comparison. But he's the last Lancastrian so the throne should be his. Of course westerns doesn't map exactly to 15th century England but there is a similar feel to the presumptions of right to the throne.

The northern king by election is more Anglo Saxon in feel and doesn't seem to tally with the rest of westerns which has gone down the inheritance route.

Mapril · 16/04/2019 11:27

I must have missed the Bathrooms, what is their sigil? Grin

JasperRising · 16/04/2019 11:27

I am a bit worried that they are going to deal with the Night King mid season and then spend the last episodes resolving the political Jon v Danaerys and then Targs v Cersei. Which back in season 1 would have been fine because it was about political machinations but now all seems a bit petty... And the Golden Company have been introduced far too late for me to have any investment in how they do in any fighting.

Honeyroar · 16/04/2019 11:28

I loved how Bran said "we haven't got time for all this" re the introductions etc, and then later pushed Sam off to tell Jon. His inner sense must have seen that they're going to have to move things along if they're going to wrap it all up in six episodes!

I thin next week's episode will be hard hitting. This was a gentle ease back in. Although did anyone else spend the whole episode cringing that someone was going to get murdered? Particularly toward the end when they were creeping round that ruin!

JasperRising · 16/04/2019 11:28

Haha. I saw that autocorrect and thought I had fixed it Blush crossed loobrushes maybe? White on a blue background.