THE VICTIM BBC MON 9pm

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New drama about a grieving mum who confronts the man accused online for being her sons killer

But is he really a notorious child murderer or a tragic victim of mistaken identity?

In law, there is the accused and the victim. In life, it’s not that simple...

I think this will be quite heart wrenching

Tom was his cell mate so he knew.

Tom knew. There was that scene where he told Craig that maybe it was time to move elsewhere.

For me it all hangs on why Tom Hannah's boss told him Craig definitely wasn't EJT. That single line is why I feel annoyed at the twist.

John Hannah's boss, sorry, can't remember the character name.

I binge watched it today and enjoyed it, I didn’t think it was amazing though. I thought the sister’s creepy boyfriend might have had more to do with it.

And sorry did I miss what Christian had been in prison for?

There was a lot of leading down the garden path, sister's boyfriend included.

Yes TOM knew as Craig told him

Think hubby was inside for drinking behaviours

Binge watched this. I have always thought Kelly McDonald was an amazing actress and she didn’t disappoint in this.

I wasn’t sure of the John Hannah character though and couldn’t quite understand why he launched at him when craig admitted he was Eddy J Turner.

Thought the Danny connection odd - as though it was going to be a big reveal - but it wasn’t. Although maybe the writer was trying to show how many lives are affected by such a horrific crime.

I thought the husbands statement about something being “unforgivable” is the only thing that really matters when it comes to forgiving was very powerful and has really stuck with me.

I hope both leads get some awards/nominations.

First episode full but each episode got better and better and the ending was outstanding. I don’t understand why the John Hannah character went at Craig after the mediation when he just said ‘I told her’. Given that Hannah supposedly believed Craig why would he assume what he meant and attack him?

What was the point in John Hannah's character at all? In his eyes it didn't matter what she did as he wasn't EJT was he cross because he was him? Why did it matter really?

And the daughters boyfriend I could understand what he did he wanted closeness to them as he had been touched by the tragedy and wanted it to be normalised but he was over the top creepy at times.

I wish it didn't tell us who attacked him think it would have been more realistic to be a total random how did William see the post?

Just finished it hated the way it ended just like that

I thought it was great, found the last episode emotional. Unfortunately I’d seen the twist thanks to having this thread on Threads I’m On 🤦‍♀️ But still found it engaging.

I got the feeling after the reveal that the other police who hadn't bothered to protect Craig had been tipped off that he was Eddie - I mean, the security around him was as leaky as a sieve, wasn't it?

I like that nuance - they knew, and didn't bother protecting him. Hannah shot his mouth off about it not mattering, but in the end it DID matter to him. It mattered to Becca, and she believed him, but she took their child away to protect her before he even confessed.

I felt a bit sorry for Danny, left out in the cold because he'd tried to get closer because of the impact of the crime upon him, and a lot sorry for the poor kid she manipulated/overshared into attacking him.

I wasn’t sure if the implication was that Danny had done something to the body though? There was the whole bit about Anna saying “but they said he’d been tortured” when Eddie hadn’t done anything after the stabbing and hiding him. Surely Anna wouldn’t have been told about torture if there wasn’t evidence of it?

I thought the “he said he wanted to be big” was an odd ending but I did like it overall, and the Rumi quote was very well chosen

I thought the hiding of the body by Craig had involved dragging it around and throwing soil and stones on it, making it look as if further injuries had been inflicted?

Oh I see, that would make more sense really! I’d hope forensics would be able to tell the difference, or maybe they were making a point about how it was less accurate 15 years ago?

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I think that bit was glossed over, but I doubt it personally. I was watching a very old episode of Midsomer Murders the other day, and they were still doing all the forensic details on pre and post mortem injuries.

(it was set in the modern day, which makes me feel incredibly old to think 15yo forensic techniques being described as primitive!)

May have been mentioned upthread but the family's home, that looked like Scotstoun to me, but were they meant to be living in Edinburgh?

Lizzie, Anna and family lived in Edinburgh (I assumed maybe Leith?) and Crag/Eddie in Port Glasgow.

maybe the writer was trying to show how many lives are affected by such a horrific crime. This was my reading too, rather than it being about reveals or twists.

I was a bit disappointed by the denouement because it moved away from the complex subtleties of right/wrong, the right to know/the right to a new life, who gets to mete out justice etc that it had explored previously.

I really didn't need the frantic taxi ride and the phone calls, or the almost-stabbing in the cafe, or the second thwarted knife attack under the bridge. It just got a bit silly. I thought it was much more interesting when exploring the notions of justice and revenge and the ripple effect that this sort of thing (in which I include Craig/Eddie's terrible childhood) has on so many people.

They did travel from Port Glasgow to Edinburgh v quickly which was annoying, it's like 1hr 30 or so depending on traffic.

it was gripping but slow and annoying, yes you did feel sympathy for the child killer but why would you feel sympathy for a child killer?
that part was awful.
she was great in the mediation setting agree.
just left a bad taste.

why would you feel sympathy for a child killer?

Because the child killer was a child himself in mental torment caused by his abusive and chaotic background. He didn't set out to lure another child to his death. Circumstances created a situation where he lashed out through pain and anger.

I know this is an old thread but I just watched this and read the thread to read others' thoughts about it!

I thought it was really good and I was surprised when Craig said he was EJT. He seemed so likeable and seemed like a "nice" guy but did I feel sympathy? No I don't think I did because he did something unthinkable. He could have got away from the child if he wanted. Even hurt him without killing him.

I couldn't help but sympathise with Anna even though she was annoying because I cannot imagine having to live with something like that. Losing a child is horrific but knowing someone deliberately (if I can use that word) took them from you and harmed them is unthinkable.

I didn't get the Danny think. It wasn't very well done in terms of ambiguity as it wasn't clear whether the family thought he'd done more (as has been discussed above) or just that he'd kept that from them. It was all a bit weird. Would have been a better twist if he'd been the killer!

I also think it's a bit dismissive to expect a mother not to care if her son's killer is walking the street or not to have a reaction when she realised she was talking to him.

Was she right or wrong for wanting him dead? Honestly don't know. I can see the injustice in her potentially being sent to prison when he's walking free. The trust is I don't think any mother could be ok with that.

I don’t really rem this as 7yrs ago