Madeleine documentary

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New documentary due to be released on Netflix on Friday.

I've covered this subject quite extensively while I was studying law. I will be watching with a heavy heart, it is just one of those cases I can't let go of sadly.

Anyone else going to be watching?

Didn’t know about the Ester Mcvey thing. Explains a lot.

Maybe in the hope of stopping nasty-minded suspicious types analysing and judging eveything they said and did?

I found the Kennedy father and son totally bizarre. The son was only 19 or something but his dad encouraged him to give up whatever he was doing and go off with some Spanish private investigator, then they sat in their luxury house and bragged about what they thought and what they had found out. What an odd pair.

And I also felt sorry for Murat and the Russian guy. Their lives have been taken over by this too and they are innocent.

So many lives changed in the blink of an eye.

I found the Kennedy father and son totally bizarre. The son was only 19 or something but his dad encouraged him to give up whatever he was doing and go off with some Spanish private investigator, then they sat in their luxury house and bragged about what they thought and what they had found out. What an odd pair.

Yes!!

The son particularly with his whole "So we jumped in a car and drove up into the Atlas Mountains...". Bizarre have a go hero on daddy's dime.

I’ve listened to all the episodes of the Maddie podcast. I’ve found it to be extremely biased against the parents. The Netflix doc is much more balanced and sensible.

Yeah, I'm not really enjoying the podcast. Every episode starts with "For the record, we don't think the McCanns are responsible" (to try to avouid being sued, obviously) then the whole of each episode I've listened to so far basically casts doubt on everything they did or said and lends credence to the most ridiculously minor "facts" to implying they're guilty of SOMETHING. It's gross.

I agree about Kennedy dad and son. If everyone suspects Murat because he seemed overinvolved by generally being around too much and interfering then surely should him and his son be suspects as they sticky beaked a lot more. Following people. Trying to bug them and so on.

Obviously I know they aren’t responsible but it’s just a bit hypocritical.

They have been massively unlucky with the help they have received - Portuguese Poooce clearly cocked it up and the 2 investigative firms seem almost laughable.

Peter Hyatt is a charlatan. This from his website "Statement Analysis is the science of seeing deception in language. It can be 100% accurate, exposing both deception and motive" is utter bollocks.

I’m finding the podcast fairly neutral and balanced. I don’t think they’re trying to be a whodunnit. I think they do a good job of contextualising key events and pivotal moments.

The millionaire's son had me agog when he commented that on arriving in Morocco he was surprised to see so many blonde people. Like they must all be dark haired was his assumption. He made it sound like a boys' own adventure, jolly japes.

“...it can be 100% accurate”

Hahaha what tosh

I have a PhD, so I know bullshite when I see it

Another one who oddly gave up his job was Gerry's brother, he had a good job with Astra Zeneca but gave it up a few weeks into the investigation to join the hunt. How did he know she wouldn't be found anytime soon. Take some time off yes, but not resign

Fucksake. Maybe his mind wasn't on work, what with his niece having gone missing and all.

The fund was set up within a few days of her going missing, Not a charity but a limited company. That's what's so odd, the fact that a lot of people seemed to be in it for the long haul. That fund was to pay for the search, not their mortgage

What, so they killed her as a fundraising opportunity?

“It can be 100% accurate”

What does that mean? “Can be” suggests a failure rate, whereas “100% accurate” suggests the opposite. It’s nonsensical before you even start to unpack the dodgy science behind it.

Hunting, apparently one of the stated aims of the fund was to financiallly support the family whilst the search was ongoing and they were unable to work or to help to pay for two lots of accommodation costs (their mortgage and the unexpected costs incurred by having to stay on in Portugal). FWIW, I do question some of their behaviour from an ethical point of view and think they were irresponsible for leaving the children unattended in the apartment, but I don’t in any way think they were implicated in the disappearance of their daughter.

I do think the Netflix doc was pretty even handed in its presentation, not obviously biased towards one side or the other.

So, what? They should have let the bank take the house while they were searching?

Either they didn't give a shit and weren't very good at hiding it, or JUST PERHAPS they were trying to maintain a semblance of normality for their two other tiny children while keeping a roof over their heads.

People don’t always behave how you’d expect them behave (or how you’d behave). Equally, you can’t know how you’d behave until you are put in that situation.

Jogging/tennis, they may very well have been in denial/self preservation mode, trying to keep themselves together. I am an HCP and am quite good at compartmentalising distressing situations (you have to be in my line of work), lots of colleagues are the same. It becomes muscle memory after a while, how do you go about your business when something terrible is happening or has happened, you put it in a ‘box’ (a metaphorical one) for a while and do whatever it is that needs to be done. As doctors, I suspect they also have that hard wired in them.

The setting up of companies and employing a PR seems sinister but honestly strikes me as a couple using their intelligence and connections to give themselves the best chance of finding their daughter and publicising the campaign as far and wide as possible. They knew it would take money and they, or their close friends with industry knowledge knew it would need to be handled in the right way.