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Fleabag is coming back! series 2

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HoraceCope · 25/02/2019 08:30

And with Andrew Scott,
he is great
as is Olivia Colman

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howmanybiscuits · 26/03/2019 14:02

Did anyone else find his comment about her calling him Father being a turn on uncomfortable?

That's the point at which his behaviour towards her started feeling wrong. He mis-read the situation, she wasn't lusting after him in that moment.

Hollowvictory · 26/03/2019 14:03

Of course she was, that's why she turned up yet again at the church.

howmanybiscuits · 26/03/2019 14:06

Also, did you clock the music the priest was playing when Fleabag turned up?

Don't be fooled by these rocks that I got, I'm still Jenny from the block

Is this about how he's still the same (troubled?) man he always was, underneath the outward appearance as a Priest?

howmanybiscuits · 26/03/2019 14:08

Of course she was, that's why she turned up yet again at the church

No, I don't think she was. She turned up after his "bedtime" and sat in solitude and was about to pray, when she was interrupted by his music.

That was a moment of reflection she was having with herself, not with him. He got in the way of it.

NopeNi · 26/03/2019 14:11

I thought it was supposed to be uncomfortable howmanybiscuits - it's a bit like a therapist who's dealt with the projected flirting so far, but is consistently lonely (as he's said from episode one), struggling, gets drunk and loses control.

Assuming he is a good guy, and there's no dark secret, he'd be especially upset that she was making a breakthrough on her own and he stopped it.

NopeNi · 26/03/2019 14:13

Then again he is Moriarty, so you never know Grin

The80sweregreat · 26/03/2019 14:14

She was trying to get him to ' open up' about his family and he shut her down! I think his as troubled as she is!

howmanybiscuits · 26/03/2019 14:14

She makes it clear she didn't expect to find him up that late.

Also, Fleabag doesn't to any lustful glances to the 4th wall in that scene.

When he says "Fuck you calling me Father like it doesn't turn you on", she gives him a hard stare. She doesn't share it with us at all.

Goatrider · 26/03/2019 14:18

the other breaking the 4th wall bit, was when he heard her talking to us - about his neck.

CurlsandCurves · 26/03/2019 14:20

Omg that last episode was incredible. Every second of it, just perfection.

If this is a love story as she said at the start, I think she will come out of this learning to love herself. Her confession spoke of someone who clearly doesn’t love themselves, or trust themselves enough to just be who they are.

And maybe that’s why her and the priest are drawn to each other. He’s a troubled character too. Hope they both find peace.

Love the breaking the 4th wall thing too. ‘Did you just say you love my neck?’ 😮 And I jumped out of my skin when he looked at us in the cafe! I can’t believe I had such a reaction to it, like nooooo, you’re not supposed to know I’m here!

howmanybiscuits · 26/03/2019 14:22

Assuming he is a good guy, and there's no dark secret, he'd be especially upset that she was making a breakthrough on her own and he stopped it.

I wonder if it's more twisted than that. He wants him to be the object of her affections, not god. When she says she was about to pray, he says "no, no, no, no, no, don't you... that's my thing". His instinct is to turn her away from god and back to him.

But - it's a good thing for Fleabag that he inadvertently (and ironically given his job) saves her from finding religion. Fleabag is an atheist, turning to god would be a distraction from healing and understanding her place in the world.

He manipulates her into being vulnerable, and he could have gone down the path of conversion just as easily as sex. Neither were what she needed. She does need a friend however. Perhaps the show can redeem him enough that they can find a way to that, but only if she's stronger and stops feeling she wants or needs him. He needs to eat some serious humble pie!

The80sweregreat · 26/03/2019 14:25

She cant move on at all from what happened to Boo - most people would beat themselves up about it for a long time as she was so horrible and contributed to her not being here now. She is learning to cope a bit better than she did before, but only just.
Her dad understands her - many others don't. The priest could help , but she wont tell him the truth. i thought she might in the cafe, but she couldnt do it.

BertrandRussell · 26/03/2019 14:25

He’s not a good guy. He’s shown himself not to be.

youngestisapsycho · 26/03/2019 14:44

In the cafe when he asked, she looked round and Boo was there shaking her head... I assume telling FB not to tell? So it Boo she is always looking at/talking too?

NopeNi · 26/03/2019 14:52

His family is very fucked up, he's open about that from episode one too.

I don't know, I don't think he's necessarily meant to be portrayed as a bad guy or intentionally manipulative, just someone who's broken and damaged. (Not that abusers always intend to be abusive of course.)

He's turned away from sex and the world to try and find peace - but church isn't really about robes and ceremonies, it's about annoying parishioners and loneliness, and someone who seems to be flirting with him suddenly isn't one night when he's drunk and he misses it?

Either way, I was so glad they didn't just end up together though, I thought it was cleverly done to make it feel unpleasant and like a misstep.

Goatrider · 26/03/2019 15:08

It can't be Boo she's talking to, as she was introducing us to people in the 1st series and Boo already knew them.

ThanksItHasPockets · 26/03/2019 15:37

I think last night is the first time that we’ve seen Boo tell Fleabag to do something. She was about to tell the priest that Boo was dead when Boo shook her head.

RedForShort · 26/03/2019 15:37

No Goatrider, she said it out loud rather than to us. Then said something about getting confused (presume between actual people and the 4th wall).

Ahhh, some of you really determined to see the priest as abusive or manipulative. Nooooooooo!!! I won't have it!!!!

He really likes her and is very torn between wanting to be with her and his vows. He found her (on coming to check on her after she'd opened up to him and gone quite) on her knees and realised she'd mistook his Neil for kneel. He finds her very attractive both as a person and physically and kissed her. The falling picture jolted him back to realising he couldn't have a physical relationship with her.

Won't deny my first fear when he said kneel was he was going to abuse her. But Im determined to have him as a decent man. think he's confused and torn between his vocation and his desire. Probably first time he's felt tested since his ordination.

Also pretty sure he didn't break fourth wall. He's just sensing her doing it more strongly so was looking in the direction at what he could sense she was.

Maybe they'll both run away together in the end and become Quakers. 😁

CoolCarrie · 26/03/2019 15:43

I am sure he meant Neil not kneel.
Love the Quaker tweet, brilliant

Tootrousers · 26/03/2019 15:49

I thought he meant Neil too but then surely she would know his name and not kneel down??

howmanybiscuits · 26/03/2019 15:51

She would only know his name if she asked- maybe she hasn't.

I assume his parishioners call him Father Surname?

Tootrousers · 26/03/2019 15:57

Yes but surely as they are friends now and even agreed that it would be unlikely that she doesn’t know his first name. I liked the Neil theory but it’s weak for me because of this

Hollowvictory · 26/03/2019 16:12

The audience don't know her name nor the priests name.

Connieston · 26/03/2019 16:12

Ooo maybe Boo was WARNING her not to tell the priest she'd died. Maybe imaginary Boo KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT THE PRIEST!

despite being technically a figment of Fleabag's own imagination

Come to think of it, Boo's not appeared in the present before has she - isn't it normally flashbacks?

Tootrousers · 26/03/2019 16:16

I know Hollow, but I meant that just because we don’t know his name doesn’t mean she doesn’t. For her to kneel when and if he said Neil means she doesn’t know his name
And I think that’s unlikely given their friendship. I could be wrong though

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