The Cry

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Cant see another thread - anyone watching?

Ooo Im not reading anymore of this your giving it away peeps

Flower I honestly have no idea, never heard of the book or seen any trailers so complete guessing and probably not even close!!

The medicine bottle says hydrocodone and acetaminophen. Not actually available in this country as acetaminophen is called paracetamol here. Hydrocodone is an opioid similar to codeine used for moderate to severe pain. Could kill a baby if they mixed it up which seems likely.
Rewound it and the baby is blinking when they arrive in Australia!

Rewatching the bit by the wooden hut, she is stood by it and walks back to the car and opens the back door where the baby would be.. not sure if relevant!

I thought it was quite interesting and the time jumps didn't both me much.
I thought she was giving Noah some Infacol on tne plane. Surely at 3 weeks and 17 days he wouldn't be teething, it would more likely be colic?
She, Noahs mum, seems quite distant but I don't know if thats due to being so sleep deprived or what. I do remember that feeling well as my first baby was a crier and a non sleeper, unless it was on me. She was exhausting.
Noahs dad seems an arse. Who takes someone back to their family home, when the wife and child are still living there? Its all about him, and what's important to him, and sod everyone else.
Why was Noahs mum so focused on the carrier bag when they came out of the shop, before they discovered Noah was missing?
Also, what was with the strange bottles on the plane? Did they have meds in? I thought he gave her a bottle to take some pills with, so thought maybe they were water. But, the last long haul flight I took, we were given plastic cups of water.
Looking forward to next weeks episode.

I thought she abandoned the baby at the shack as when the old woman went towards her and the baby at the beach house she went and vomited over the railings - or appeared to vom. Alistair also discouraged the old woman from going near her so perhaps they both knew the baby was at the shack? The ex-wife is in the chip shop (?) in the same road the baby goes missing??

Joanna looks about 15 and the husband 40odd.

Thanks re hiding wine glass I did indeed miss that.

Baby is "3 months 17 days" she said to woman renting a cottage to them?

Getting tampons if pregnant - may not have missed a period yet, even bf mum's can have periods return quite quickly.

Baby not crying after crying throughout flight - could be it was pressure & ear pain CAUSING him to cry, then relieved once off flight and knackered?

Infacol is given as drops (bloody useless though!)

I know what happens as I read the book but watching it tonight utterly freaked me out for some reason! 7mo asleep next to me and I’m too scared to go to sleep, what if something happens to him when I’m not there?!

Did the ex wife have muddy fingers too when she was at the chip shop? To make you think she had buried the baby?

The plane scene makes me think of the MNetters who've said, "I'm thinking of taking my new baby on a flight..." and everyone's encouraged her to go

To be honest in all the flying I’ve done over 50 years including non stops to Australia and Miami I’ve never heard a baby cry for more than a few minutes at a time and not very often either.

When joanna did the "two faces" sign in the court room it reminded me of showgirls

I've not read the book but if the TV prog is the same as the book it makes me wonder how it got published!

There are some odds things going on:

-baby teething at 3 months?
-14 yr old not having any say in who she lives with?
-pads/ tampons- significant or not- are we reading things in that aren't there? Maybe she did genuinely forget to pack some and is expecting a period?

Lots of red herrings- the ex wife, the woman at the cottage....

We assume she is charged with murdering her baby or getting rid of it, so now we wait to see if that is so, or if she's been set up by the jealous ex wife, the husband or one the extended family.

And obviously her tiredness and behaviour on the plane is 'evidence' she is mentally unstable.

I don't know- it all looks a bit of a cliche to me, but maybe the book is better?

I'm fascinated by this programme and there are so many questions.

I think the baby was given the wrong medicine on the plane.

The husband is a total prick.

The reaction when the baby was discovered missing was surreal. I'd be screaming the place down, although I do agree that some people react differently.

Given that the baby never left her side why did she just wander in to shop?

I shall certainly be watching this next week.

the DP really didnt want any conversation etc with the woman that bought the milk did he

I've read he book so was interested to see if it was going to be a bad make of it. So far, ok!

oh god i had a dream last night,i was in labour and having an unexpected baby at 48yrs old.watching this must have been on my mind,baby's baby's baby's

I've not read the book but I have just read the reviews of it on Amazon.

They are mixed.

About 40% say it was great, but a fair number say otherwise and that it stretches credibility.

It reminds me a lot of The Missing which was on a year or so back- same kind of thing.

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I am not the sort of person who screams - the most you ever hear from me is a sort of shocked yelp. I can't even 'fake' a girly scream of excitement kind of thing.

I can't predict with certainty that I wouldn't scream in that sort of circumstance, but my guess would be numbness, and frozen, or crying.

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In my dreams I can never scream, it's weird isn't it?

I constantly got/gave comments about my babies teething - it’s just a comment people say when babies cry. Nothing more. A sort of “Ive no idea why he won’t stop crying, must be teething”

baby teething at 3 months?

My DS started teething at 3 months. He couldn't grasp the teethers, it was very frustrating! But I don't think Calpol was recommended (though that doesn't mean people wouldn't give it).
You aren't really supposed to put medicine in replacement bottles and you can take it through in larger bottles if you have the information leaflet/label (and Calpol is easy to get in 100ml bottles) but again that doesn't mean some people don't do it wrong.

I have a theory about the tampons

It's part of their plan. They need a credible reason why Jenna would leave the car.....an emergency..... nobody would leave a baby in the car alone to run in and get some forgotten butter/hairspray/apples.... but they possibly would do for some vital much needed sanitary protection.

Also could cover the reason why the carrier bag was zoomed in on twice

Oh I think some of you are onto something that baby died on the plane because of a medication mix up by dad.

Alistair is definitely abusive and a complete arsehole. I think he's setting Jo up to protect his precious career. He's possibly been drugging her to make her even more confused. He's obviously behaved in a similar way to ex wife as she's been driven to drink.

I think Ali told Jo to come into the shop to enable the plan to work of baby being snatched. I couldn't work out why Jo wasn't reacting to her baby being taken but if baby was never in the car and she's drugged/confused/already grieving then that would explain it.

Ex wife wasn't in court (just gran and daughter) which makes me think she's dead.

In my dreams I can never scream, it's weird isn't it?
Me neither, and I can never run either.

I have a very loud scream when I'm hurt but if something goes wrong - including those (thankfully only 5 second long) times when I can't catch sight of a DC, I don't scream, I go into rather panicky action.